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originally posted by: BELIEVERpriest
a reply to: Willtell
The best way to stop ISIL is to defund them. That means impeaching Obama, returning to the Constitution, shutting down the Federal Reserves, stopping all foreign aid, cutting ALL ties with Israel, ADL and any other Zionist organization, and cutting taxes severely.
ISIL is American made. Obama will make no real effort to stop them. The Zionists want an Islamic State that they can control, and ISIL is doing their dirty work.
If we had defunded Hitler, both the Holocaust and WWII would have been avoided...but war is good for Globalism.
ISIL will not be stopped. The Zionist bankers have invested far too much into them to stop them now.
originally posted by: OpinionatedB
a reply to: Willtell
LEARN FROM HISTORY.
You, an American CANNOT understand, nor mess with, the dynamics of a people you know NOTHING about!
You must stop messing in people's lives. Middle easterners are NOT LIKE US. They have personalities all their own, and we must stop playing in things we know nothing about.
We don't like Russia, so we fund the Mujahideen arm them, train them... leave the power vacuum, and in walks the Taliban. cool. 1 mistake down.
We don't like the democratic government in Iran, so we oust that one and put into place the shah, whom the people hate, and in walks Khamanei. 2 mistake down.
We don't like Ghadafi, so we arm and fund and train the Brotherhood, and in walks the brotherhood... and the country is in shambles, and the people angry. 3 mistake down.
We don't like Assad, so we arm and fund the FSA, and in walks ISIS, and utter chaos ensure. 4 mistakes down.
We don't like Saddam, and in walks ISIS to fill a vacuum caused by an istalled government, and chaos ensures genocide. 5 mistakes down.
The same with every single country over there we touch! mistakes piled upon mistakes all due to not understanding the people at all!
So now we are back to arming the FSA, and now the kurds too? Are you stupid?
Just #ing stop messing with the goddamn lives of people... let THEM sort out their own goddamn problems that all your problem #ing solving abilities CAUSED... and then maybe, just maybe.. they can find some goddamn peace for a #ing change!
ISIS exists BECAUSE we #ed everything up! They ARE the culmination of all our mistakes... and guess what.. WE CANNOT FIX IT... only the people of the middle east can.
originally posted by: BELIEVERpriest
a reply to: clay2 baraka
The US is interested in what benefits Israel. Obama could not take down Assad in Syria with the false flag serin gas attacks, so the US raised and trained ISIL...just ask John McCain, he knows all about it. Saudi Arabia is on America's and Israel's payroll, so its no surprise that they have connections to ISIL too.
originally posted by: daaskapital
a reply to: OpinionatedB
I don't see anything wrong with his proposed plans. In fact, it is better to take some form of action, rather than letting ISIS continue to grow in power.
You're lucky i'm not like some of the other posters on here...i would call you an ISIS supporter otherwise, lol.
Seriously though, I think you need to settle down. There are no doubts that the USA has royally screwed up the Middle-East, but when these countries call for assistance, we should respond. Forming an temporary alliance/truce with Assad and the FSA, while strengthening the Kurds and Iraq, are great ideas to tackle ISIS. They're not going away in the current landscape.
If you want an example, look into the USS Liberty incident.
originally posted by: OpinionatedB
temporary alliances for the greater good. right. that is what we keep hearing, time and time again. it's for the greater good.
well great... all that "good" produced ISIS, and now doing the exact same thing which caused them is supposed to stop them - and create something better?
It's like beating ones head against a wall, and expecting it not to hurt the 10th time.
And you know more than anyone I don't support ISIS... I support their defeat, and I also know it wont happen by our hand - or in our way. It will happen when the middle east comes together to stop it... otherwise it will do nothing but grow, and become a larger monster.
Mark my words.