Hamas launch a rocket from the grounds of a hotel housing foreign journalists.

"All warfare is based on deception." --Sun Tzu

"Israel's Iron Dome not intercepting Qassam rockets, just exploding in the air?"

And if this reporter or whatever he is, would genuinely think that those were "terrorists" he sure as HELL wouldn't just stand at the window talking like Bob Ross!!

"Oh look.. There is one Hamas member sitting in his tent assembling his deadly rocket.. He has a lovely friend with him that puts wires everywhere.."

a reply to: Hellas

Omfg lol.

If reporters start filming HAMAS launching ROCKETS towards Israel and with that film, they include IDENTIFYING information of MILITANTS, that provides INTELLIGENCE for ISRAEL. Hamas then will say WTF, they will then take it out on the reporters who provide information for those boogeyman they call Israel.

Hamas has a presence on the internet, not to shock you in anyway but they really do. If they start seeing their militants who are launching these rockets being plastered all over the news, what do you think will happen to the reporters? It's a rhetorical question.

You know what, instead of talking with no backing on your part, email the reporter and ask him yourself, I'm kind of sick and tired of this. I really can't hold your hand for everything and explain everything to you like a 5 year old.

originally posted by: Laxpla
a reply to: Hellas

Omfg lol.

If reporters start filming HAMAS launching ROCKETS towards Israel and with that film, they include IDENTIFYING information of MILITANTS, that provides INTELLIGENCE for ISRAEL. Hamas then will say WTF, they will then take it out on the reporters who provide information for those boogeyman they call Israel.

Hamas has a presence on the internet, not to shock you in anyway but they really do. If they start seeing their militants who are launching these rockets being plastered all over the news, what do you think will happen to the reporters? It's a rhetorical question.

You know what, instead of talking with no backing on your part, email the reporter and ask him yourself, I'm kind of sick and tired of this. I really can't hold your hand for everything and explain everything to you like a 5 year old.

Don't worry, I'm sure you'll have something important to say in another topic. All is good!

More on Hamas and their launch from by the hotel:

www.france24.com...

FRANCE 24 has exclusive footage of a Hamas rocket launching pad that appears to prove the militant group has been firing from areas heavily populated with civilians. Correspondent Gallagher Fenwick says the site, in Gaza City, is some 50 metres from a hotel where the majority of international media is staying, and just 100 metres from a UN building. "This type of setup is at the heart of the debate," says Gallagher. "The Israeli army has repeatedly accused the Palestinian militants of shooting from within densely populated civilian areas and that is precisely the type of setup we have here.” The launching pad is also where the FRANCE 24 team had a close call last week. During a live cross to the Paris studio, a rocket was fired overhead, forcing Gallagher and his crew to take cover.

I'm assuming this is a second group of journalists confirming what the Indian cameramen saw.

originally posted by: Antigod
More on Hamas and their launch from by the hotel:

www.france24.com...

FRANCE 24 has exclusive footage of a Hamas rocket launching pad that appears to prove the militant group has been firing from areas heavily populated with civilians. Correspondent Gallagher Fenwick says the site, in Gaza City, is some 50 metres from a hotel where the majority of international media is staying, and just 100 metres from a UN building. "This type of setup is at the heart of the debate," says Gallagher. "The Israeli army has repeatedly accused the Palestinian militants of shooting from within densely populated civilian areas and that is precisely the type of setup we have here.” The launching pad is also where the FRANCE 24 team had a close call last week. During a live cross to the Paris studio, a rocket was fired overhead, forcing Gallagher and his crew to take cover.

I'm assuming this is a second group of journalists confirming what the Indian cameramen saw.

Yup the truth is coming out now that reporters don't have the Hamas knife at their throats and they are leaving Gaza to tell what they really saw but couldn't report.

a reply to: Laxpla

Several journalists have said Hamas try to stop them getting out footage that shows this kind of stuff, and that you can only post stuff that shows them in a bad light from abroad and if you don't intend to go back.

a reply to: Hellas

And if this reporter or whatever he is, would genuinely think that those were "terrorists" he sure as HELL wouldn't just stand at the window talking like Bob Ross!!

Hey you there, gang of men armed with the AK47's, stop building that rocket launcher. It's putting me in danger!

Really?

There would have been a guard crew protecting the guys building the launcher. I shouldn't have thought they'd have taken interference kindly. Or any attempt by their future PR corpses trying to run off.

Did you even acknowledge the videos where Hamas is cheerily chatting about using civilians as human shields, and hiding behind kids?

a reply to: TinfoilTP
Yeah, looks like two groups of reporters saw this incident.

a reply to: seasoul


You recycled that video from your original thread ?

I laughed you out of the room on that one and you pain us again with its presence again?

That video is complete and utter garbage. A joke and brain candy for the weak minded. Dang....

If I were a neutral party, I'd have to say this was a pretty clever defense and PR strategy rolled into one. Wonder where they got the idea?

originally posted by: stosh64
What a world, black is white, right is wrong, evil is good.
Come quickly Lord

Lord, come quickly for stosh64, please note that I'm good here. Just clarifying...you know...in case you exist and stuff.

And an Imam laying into Hamas for using human shields.

During a recent televised debate, a French-Moroccan Imam lashed out at Hamas for using civilians as human shields. The Imam, Rachid Birbach, said that Gazans were caught between a rock and a hard place: between the Israeli bombardments and the "even more terrible" abuse and siege by Hamas. “We reject extremism, be it Islamic or Israeli extremism,” he said in the debate, which aired on France 24 TV on July 24 and was translated by the Middle East Media Research Institute

“I cry my heart out at night over the [plight] of the Palestinians, but unlike those who say that this is an Israeli-Palestinian conflict, I say that it is a conflict between Israel and Hamas. We must understand this,” said Birbach.

“I don't understand why Hamas opposes peace in such an insane manner. They reject this. When Egyptian diplomacy intervened and proposed a ceasefire, Hamas rejected it,” he added.

“I'd like to make myself clear: I support Gaza and Palestine. I am against oppression. The Palestinian people are caught between a rock and a hard place: between the Israeli bombardments, on the one hand, and the abuse and siege by Hamas, on the other hand – and the latter is even more terrible. Hamas has been using them as human shields,” he said


(MEMRI).

Finally you people are waking up and realizing who Hamas really is..So In this thread we covered that they(Hamas) shoots rockets in heavenly dense neighborhoods, They use kids as shields(like we didn't know that..) and they civilians as shields, oh they also fabricate pictures, how can I forget that..So this sums up the Hamas side..Why the terrorists are using "blue" tents because those poor kids that got hit were in tents, that's why Hamas is using tents to make them look like they're "civilians".

Israel, they give warnings to the occupants of the homes to evacuate, by phone calls and warning bombs (how nice of them) Some of them stay and get bombed..there is always Casualties in war. Yes, and I'm not supporting Israel on this that "bombs" UN schools, but there's been proof that they store weapons and Hamas people there.. As I mentioned, Hamas doesn't care about their people. I wish there wasn't so many civilian deaths..but what Israel needs to do for peace, is get rid of Hamas!

a reply to: Antigod

Hmmmm, an insider look into how Hamas sets up their rockets? Ready to fire in days, perhaps even hours... but damn how insignificant it looked and knowing the rocket that flew from it how insignificant it will be. It's a low pay load piece of junk that will either be intercepted by the Iron Dome or land harmlessly in an open area and or become a dud.

What bothers me is that this insignificant rocket launch pad will be invite significant fire power to rain down on to it, which in turn causes massive death and destruction to innocent victims. Tic for Tat?

Why doesn't Israel send in ground troops to dismantle this small insignificant site?

Too bad Hamas has their terrorist grip on Gaza because it would be nice if Israel could work with Gazan authorities to locate and capture these sites. Hamas was elected back in 2006? When was the last time there was an election?

Check out this fail... Palestine is screwed with incompetent and violent leaders....

en.wikipedia.org...

Attempts to resolve election issue

Presidential and parliamentary election to the Palestinian Authority were postponed several times because of intra-Palestinian political disputes between Fatah and Hamas,[11] from the original date of 17 July 2010.[12]
In February 2011, following the resignation of Saeb Erekat as chief negotiator with Israel for the Israeli-Palestinian peace process following the release of the Palestine Papers,[13] which were harshly critical of the PLO's concessions, the PLO Executive Committee announced intentions to hold elections before October.[11] Abbas's followed the announcement with calls for "the spirit of change in Egypt" to inspire Palestinian unity. His aide Yasser Abed Rabbo said: "The Palestinian leadership decided to hold presidential and legislative elections within September. It urges all the sides to put their differences aside."
Fawzi Barhoum, a spokesman for Hamas, said that Abbas does not have the legitimacy to make the electoral call. "Hamas will not take part in this election. We will not give it legitimacy. And we will not recognize the results."[14]
In October 2011, Abbas sent a proposal to Hamas for another general election, preferably to be held in early 2012. It was suggested that Hamas would be more willing to participate in another election following the Gilad Shalit prisoner swap, which boosted Hamas' standing in Gaza.[15] In November 2011, an election date on 4 May 2012 was preliminarily agreed on.[16] However, due to further bickering, the election could not be held by that date.[17]
On 20 December 2013 Hamas called on the Palestinian Authority to form a six-month national unity government that would finally hold the long-delayed general election.[18] Following the upgrade of the UN status of Palestine to non-member observer state, it was proposed that general state elections would follow in 2013, in line with unity talks of Fatah and Hamas. In April 2014 agreement was reached between Fatah and Hamas to form a unity government, which took place on 2 June 2014, and for general elections to take place within 6 months of the agreement.[1]

a reply to: stosh64

Hamas is guilty of firing off these rockets of fail in civilian area but only Israel is responsible for destroying said areas. Hamas didn't force Israel to fire on six UN buildings, 4 boys on a beach, and entire city blocks, power plants, and hospitals killing almost two thousand people who are mostly non combatants.

When can Israel ever be held responsible for the lives they've taken?

When Israel's strongest allies accuse them of going to far then it's obvious they've gone to far. When can you hold Israel responsible for killing civilians as much as you hold Hamas?

a reply to: Swills

Yeah, those Hamas rockets are piddly bits of crap whose sole purpose is to rile the Israelis into shooting back. Basically they have no real military angle (they are kidding themselves if they think they'll do anything to Israel with tunnels and tiny rockets). This whole thing is set up to get Israel to fire on civilians. It's a PR war, they want to pressure other countries into stopping money to Israel, they can't do squat themselves militarily. Which is probably why they chose to launch from the hotel, they wanted the IDF to blow up a building full of foreign journalists. It would have been all over the news for a whole week and the foreign media would have had kittens about it. If all had gone to plan we'd be looking a dozen or more dead reporters and no inconvenient footage of a rocket launch to explain why it was shelled.

I lost all sympathy with Hamas when it became clear they were using kids as shields. They care more about killing Jews than they do about saving their own kids.

a reply to: Antigod

You lost all sympathy for Hamas? Why did you have any in the first place?

“Iron Dome is a bluff,” says Israeli defense expert Moti Shefer.

The “war on terror” is a $6 trillion racket, exceeding the total cost of world war II.

Ok, now there are multiple journalist witnesses. Fantastic!

In the first video, there was no footage of the rocket. Just smoke.

I assume these other journalists/witnesses at least snapped a blurry picture of said "rocket" BEFORE it was fired? Or even being brought to the "launch area"????

No?

Oh dear...



My initial evaluation stands. That is, until it can be proven otherwise with HARD evidence.

So let me get this straight, the fact that HAMAS launches a rocket in daylight in front of media hotel rooms so media can take pictures doesn't raise alarm bells to anyone with an ounce of logic.

HAMAS was created by Israel.