Ebola, the ZMapp Serum, and the Changing Dr. Brantley Story

All the reports i heard is that there were four doses and the dr. opted to give the nurse 3 of the 4 because he was not as far along as her. They were saying this before he came back and said he was a hero for doing that. Perhaps that is why he came home first. The question i have is are these two gonna be carriers or possibly more suseptable to a second round of the illness? Will i pass these folks on the street possibly?

a reply to: loam

Is all planned, the bringing of ebola into the nation, they already have a serum and a vaccine to be tested, but they are not telling how much of it is available in case a pandemic develop within the next few months, they want panic to spread into the population, the end result is enough panicked and scare people to scream for a vaccine, poor countries where the ebola sprouted are not money making pit for big pharma, they need affluent countries like the US and UK to reap benefits.

BTW all together the investment on the pharmas working with ebola vaccine and serum is 148 millions between DOD and monspanto.

here's a twist on the ebola containment process, outside of serums or vaccines for the affluent

I just seen on the CNBC channel (1:30 pm, Tuesday the 5th of Aug) a Robot device used in the medical field to destroy viruses at a distance of 3 feet which makes it practical to use on bed-ridden victims of Ebola

the device named XENEX uses intense Xenon light that frys the virus at 25,000 X the intensity of sunlight...
even while good bacteria are unharmed by the Xenon light
www.xenex.com...
Xenex can kill the toughest pathogens in hospitals in 5 minutes
- See more at: www.xenex.com...


my question will the ACA (ObamaCare) cover the use of these robots?

or are us peons screwd again...

where only the elites exempt from ACA will be able to access this medical tool...

~ or those potential patients with the "Double Diamond/Triple Platinum" ACA plans that cost more than a grand a month will be able to get the benefit of hospital use ?

anyone up for investigative work

a reply to: St Udio I recently seen a man save a pack of puppies by putting bleach in there food one day. It was parvo that killed one of the pups and the rest were in full die mode but after a couple hours of food mixed with bleech in there stomach they came around. All i'm saying is that i would drink bleach before i went to a hospital. i have been told that moonshine will do the same.

Speaking of changing stories:

Dr. Margaret Chan, the W.H.O. director general, was speaking as she met with the leaders of the three most affected countries — Guinea, Liberia and Sierra Leone — in Conakry, the Guinean capital, for the introduction of a $100 million plan to deploy hundreds more medical professionals in support of overstretched regional and international health workers.

“This meeting must mark a turning point in the outbreak response,” Dr. Chan said, according to a W.H.O. transcript of her remarks. “If the situation continues to deteriorate, the consequences can be catastrophic in terms of lost lives but also severe socioeconomic disruption and a high risk of spread to other countries.”

She said the outbreak was “caused by the most lethal strain in the family of Ebola viruses.”

NY Times.

Now click on the 'transcript link'.

This is what you get:



If you follow their replacement description of the meeting, you'll see the new SANITIZED version.

Good grief.

ETA:

Ok. Found most of the original transcript.

First, this outbreak is moving faster than our efforts to control it. If the situation continues to deteriorate, the consequences can be catastrophic in terms of lost lives but also severe socioeconomic disruption and a high risk of spread to other countries. As I said before, this meeting must mark a turning point in the outbreak response.

In addition, the outbreak is affecting a large number of doctors, nurses, and other health care workers, one of the most essential resources for containing an outbreak. To date, more than 60 health care workers have lost their lives in helping others. Some international staff are infected. These tragic infections and deaths significantly erode response capacity.

Second, the situation in West Africa is of international concern and must receive urgent priority for decisive action at national and international levels. Experiences in Africa over nearly four decades tell us clearly that, when well managed, an Ebola outbreak can be stopped.

This is not an airborne virus. Transmission requires close contact with the bodily fluids of an infected person, also after death. Apart from this specific situation, the general public is not at high risk of infection by the Ebola virus.

At the same time, it would be extremely unwise for national authorities and the international community to allow an Ebola virus to circulate widely and over a long period of time in human populations.

Constant mutation and adaptation are the survival mechanisms of viruses and other microbes. We must not give this virus opportunities to deliver more surprises.

Third, this is not just a medical or public health problem. It is a social problem. Deep-seated beliefs and cultural practices are a significant cause of further spread and a significant barrier to rapid and effective containment. This social dimension must also be addressed as an integral part of the overall response.

Fourth, in some areas, chains of transmission have moved underground. They are invisible. They are not being reported. Because of the high fatality rate, many people in affected areas associate isolation wards with a sure death sentence, and prefer to care for loved ones in homes or seek assistance from traditional healers.

Link.

originally posted by: WanDash
a reply to: loam
One vial - Two vials - Three?
But in all the huh-bub...we lose track of the ebola-surviving-boy that donated a unit of blood to save the life of the doctor that saved his own...
So - did Brantley get the boy's blood...AND the serum?
Or...just the serum?

If just the serum... Where'd the story about the survivor-turn-savior come from?

The piece of the story that nearly all will remember, even after the 180 change from first reports to secondary reports.

Should the question actually be.....why would an organisation run by Freemason Grahams have wanted this angle of the story embedded into our minds? Does it have to do with their repeated imagery of a black saviour/avenger embedded in so many of their holly wood productions? Why did they want us exposed to this initial story...which despite the change in story, will not entirely leave our minds?

So that includes this thread?a reply to: loam

What's the big deal really? Stories change all the time. Details were probably being given by lay people who didn't have all the facts. Then new info is obtained and the story revised.
But no instead it's some Kind of conspiracy though I fail to see exactly what that might be
. a reply to: loam.

a reply to: AutumnWitch657

Maybe you should start reading here.

Direct from the source.

Hope that explains it.

originally posted by: Druid42
a reply to: Staroth

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I think it was 4 days to culture for an Ebola Positive. No way you can tell immediately.

Don't forget people! A dead body (lady at the airport) is much easier to test for Ebola, a simple autopsy will tell you pretty damn quickly. Testing on live people is going to be different, and the better the facilities the faster the results.

a reply to: Dae

CDC says two days.

Passed it already. But thanks. That's the third time you've linked back to your own post.


D reply to: loam

I don't know if this is significant but, primary funding for mapp pharmaceutical comes from the USA army bio research center Funding info graph

Is that common?

Oh and has anyone noticed that both the www.mappbio.com... and the Leaf bio.com were just created and have the same type of layout? Just curious if that's common or there's something else to it...

Yep, too many discrepancies all around...sure, reporting can be that way at times but when actual so called "health experts" put out differing and confusing info, that gives one pause for thought. Besides this miracle serum they have mentioned, there is now info relevant to a rabies vaccine that has worked on monkeys in regards to Ebola...the rabies vaccines I think are "tweaked' in some way to accomplish this...it is hard to understand all the medical language in reference to what they are putting out. Just great...sounds wild....rabies vaccine and maybe some strain of Ebola too, mixed in...don't want THAT vaccine!

The other thing, there are so many strains of Ebola and Ebola type illnesses, how will they know in advance which strain to put in vaccines. There is Zaire type, Bundibugyo, Marburg, Crimea, Sudan, Lassa, Mayinga and so on. Mayinga has been believed to be airborne as a nurse overseas caught it and it was mentioned/believed she was only exposed via airborne vector...not the bodily fluid route as they have been mentioning. Some tell us this Ebola is passed only from fluids, then a CDC expert mentions air borne vector now also...which is it? Which strain of Ebola are we dealing with? How will they know which strain to put in vaccines? Folks have been dying from Ebola for a long time, why all of a sudden this new urgency. The mortality numbers...what is the truth there?
Also troubling, Monsanto and DOD funding private company with lotsa money for the Ebola treatment. Hmmm...follow the money. Will forced vaccines and quarantines and martial law come of all this? The Prez signs new and improved order for detainment/apprehension of folks with respiratory illness troubles...is Ebola mentioned in there too...maybe doesn't need to be, the order is painted with such a broad stroked brush, yet vague. This entire situation has come on too strong, too fast, and feels like there is an agenda or something more to it all.

Lastly, vaccine inserts actually state that they do not work for everyone...nice. This whole Ebola dealy sounds like one big cluster ef or just not right. Vaccines take a long time to produce...how...all of a sudden are there perhaps treatments and serums and vaccines coming to the fore or so they say. How about those poor Africans...no "help" relevant to Ebola for them?

Another thing I noticed throughout the day on the news (both TV and print) is some will say "the serum has only been tested on mice" while others say "it has only been tested on monkeys".

I find it strange that 2 American's caught Ebola and there just magically happens to be enough serum for them 2.
A coincidence that feels very contrived? Watch the video in the link below. Also are they both associated with Samaritan’s Purse?

Zmapp being explained in detail

Just a thought: if they can make a serum so structured and complex for the Ebola virus, why can't they do the same for cancer? (Personally, I feel they can and have)

originally posted by: marg6043
a reply to: loam

Is all planned, the bringing of ebola into the nation, they already have a serum and a vaccine to be tested, but they are not telling how much of it is available in case a pandemic develop within the next few months, they want panic to spread into the population, the end result is enough panicked and scare people to scream for a vaccine, poor countries where the ebola sprouted are not money making pit for big pharma, they need affluent countries like the US and UK to reap benefits.

BTW all together the investment on the pharmas working with ebola vaccine and serum is 148 millions between DOD and monspanto.


Or another perspective is that the development of this serum has been a complex process going on for years and what we hear from the media is usually a simplified version of events. I'm not aware of any vaccine being developed either, it seems just to be the 'serum' that is given after symptoms develop.

This article is an interesting read, it's about the teams the CDC send to Ebola outbreaks to try and figure out how it is spread from the fruit bats to the human population. It also sheds light on the 'serum' and how it has been tested, It's from 2012.

The drug development process takes an average of 15 years and costs billions of dollars. Pharmaceutical companies are reluctant to expend those resources to combat a virus that has killed about 1,080 people in 30 years or so. So far, nearly all Ebola vaccine research has been funded by the U.S. government to combat potential bioterrorist attacks. The Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases in Fort Detrick, Maryland, recently tested an experimental vaccine made from virus-like particles on guinea pigs and monkeys, and reported promising results. Several biodefense contractors have initiated small-scale safety trials with human volunteers, who are not exposed to the Ebola virus.

Read more: www.smithsonianmag.com...

I think the key part here is how it's been tested on pigs monkeys and that 'several' contractors have done small scale trials with humans who did not have Ebola. Given the small numbers of people who get Ebola and the difficulties of working in the conditions necessary for a scientific study it's no wonder the 2 US citizens were brought back to the US to be the first human guinea pigs.

It seems that the serum was arranged privately through the company that manufactured it and the patients familes. Again it is quite obvious a company would jump at the chance to test a potential cure for almost no financial outlay, when usually it takes a great deal of money.

Details of how ZMapp was administered to the patients in Liberia—and who authorized its use—remained sketchy Tuesday. Bruce Johnson, president of SIM USA, the Charlotte, N.C.-based charity with which Ms. Writebol, 59, and her husband, David, went to Africa, said at a news conference Tuesday that the decision to use the drug was left to the patients, their families and their doctors.
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Kentucky BioProcessing is working with Mapp and government agencies to increase production of ZMapp, he said. In addition, the company complied with a request from Emory University, at whose hospital the two patients are being treated, and Samaritan's Purse to provide a limited amount of ZMapp to Emory, said Mr. Howard. He declined to say how much was provided. An Emory spokeswoman wouldn't confirm the request.

So we have anonymous sources 'familar with the treatment' in articles specifying actual numbers of vials available and people take that as gospel, or we have properly sourced quotes of people who have some involvement with the development of the treatment giving different info. As we all know when a journalist or report wants to use information that can't be verified they will use an anonymous source and bung it into an article anyway.
I think it's more likely the 'anonymous sources' are interpretations of incomplete bits of information and the info.

Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the U.S. National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Disease (NIAID), is encouraged by the antibody treatment. "Obviously there are plans and enthusiasm to expand this," Fauci told me. "The limiting factor is the extraordinary paucity of treatment regimens."

Text NIAID did some of the original research that led to the development, but this is owned by Mapp Biopharmaceuticals. "They are certainly trying to scale up," Fauci said, "but I've heard that their capability is such that it's going to be months before they have a substantial number of doses, and even then they're going to be limited.

www.theatlantic.com...

Someone IS telling you how much is available and it's not very much because it has been developed by contractors who haven't had the budget to test it ethically on humans.
So trying to induce panic and hiding vaccines or just not a financially viable option?

a reply to: loam

To be honest with you this sounds like shotty reporting more than a conspiracy. If I had to take a stab at it, the story of him giving her the dose was given prematurely because he had volunteered it to her. Story one publishes with that information.....

Then his health deteriorates and he requests the first dose to live... updated information which story two is based on.

I am not in the know on this and have no inside knowledge of it but I am putting the pieces together..

Thoughts?

a reply to: NiZZiM

US Army Bio Research center would have a big stake in the game so I don't see this as alarming personally.. just like they sent Bioweapon specialists over there recently (In another thread) ... I am not at all surprised at this.

originally posted by: kosmicjack
The "hero" narrative played an important parted in limiting the public outcry and push back about flying him back to the states.

Spot on, that was exactly the intention.

In other words, shaming people who were questioning the prudence of the decision.

The stupidity of bringing the infected to America is crystal clear, but unfortunately stupidity is the norm when it comes to the imbeciles who are making these decisions.

I truly believe that this is all part of a plan that will make billions for big pharma off of future Government mandated Ebola vaccines.

Oh yeah, it's coming, and there will be herds of willing sheople that will go along with the scam. ~$heopleNation