Bill Gates, Soros spreading ebola?

originally posted by: VashKonnor
That is an outrageous lie.

So says the guy who just cited a link to the WHO website...

There is powerful epidemiological information that shows conclusively that every infectious disease was declining BEFORE the introduction of the relevant vaccine and that most of them actually INCREASED SHARPLY after those vaccines were introduced. Polio? The poster child for disease eradication? Even the CDC’s own website states that the cause of polio is vaccination with polio.

drrimatruthreports.com...

Genetic warfare same way HIV/AIDS was developed and spread, various sources already touch on the idea this is intentional

I went to fourwinds10 FOR THEIR EXTENSIVE DATABASE which most certainly does exist. You are just trying to be difficult. I just linked you to dozens of articles on the subject
fourwinds is a GREAT source for health and wellness. It is a site that requires some discernment in the spritual subject though. But a great source for health and wellness source materiala reply to: VashKonnor

Sadly, some people choose to ignore the truth and believe the lies no matter how much evidence you show them...

"Much of what you have been led to believe about immunizations simply isn't true. I not only have grave misgivings about them, I would urge you to reject all inoculations for your child. Although I administered them my-self during my early years of practice, I have become a steadfast opponent of mass inoculation because of the myriad hazards they present." ~ Robert Mendelsohn, M.D.

"The medical industry is no longer to be trusted. We have a Medical Inquisition. The Rockefellers took it over way back and warped a lot of it. Our doctors are brainwashed. The Rockefellers are dedicated to population reduction and are using the medical industry to do it."

Confessions of a Medical Heretic

"This..forced me to look into the question of vaccination further, and the further I looked the more shocked I became. I found that the whole vaccine business was indeed a gigantic hoax. Most doctors are convinced that they are useful, but if you look at the proper statistics and study the instances of these diseases you will realise that this is not so . . . My final conclusion after forty years or more in this business [medicine] is that the unofficial policy of the World Health Organization and the unofficial policy of the 'Save the Children's Fund' and ... [other vaccine promoting] organisations is one of murder and genocide. . . . I cannot see any other possible explanation. . . . You cannot immunise sick children, malnourished children, and expect to get away with it. You'll kill far more children than would have died from natural infection." --Dr Kalokerinos MD

a reply to: manna2

I went to fourwinds10 FOR THEIR EXTENSIVE DATABASE which most certainly does exist. You are just trying to be difficult. I just linked you to dozens of articles on the subject

I'm trying to be difficult? I've been nothing but polite and informative through all this discussion, while being accused of being inferior in intellect because I actually have an education and because I don't buy into any bullsh# that is presented to me.

fourwinds is a GREAT source for health and wellness.

No, it isn't. You just believe it is.

It is a site that requires some discernment in the spritual subject though.

Yes, that basically means it's filled with bullsh# so that gullible people read up and believe in stuff they don't understand... "because spirits man...yeahhhh"

But a great source for health and wellness source material

No. It isn't.

I used that data base for small pox
www.fourwinds10.net...

no proof it was irradicated by vaccines outside of propoganda pieces.
there is no study that satisfies a true observance that small pox was irradicated by vaccine. I easily give more proof it was the vaccine program that increased the epidemic
a reply to: VashKonnor

A great source of info is dr. Mendehlson. Thats a great book i have referenced to for years and probably what opened my eyes to the dangers of vaccines over 10 years agoa reply to: Murgatroid

originally posted by: manna2

originally posted by: NavyDoc

originally posted by: manna2

originally posted by: NavyDoc

originally posted by: manna2
I will search for it. The local populace began blaming "drs without borders" when there were like 30 cases when it all begana reply to: NavyDoc

Which is nonsense. Primitive peoples without understanding blaming people who came to help them. Of course they came when the cases started. An Ebola outbreak is a red alert, all hands on deck sort of thing for DWB.

DWB is the LAST group that would be involved with something nefarious. They have been long known to be apolitical, hence the name.

it would be VERY EASY to run a MAN-IN-THE-MIDDLE op using DWB. There is no reason to believe the drs knew the vaccines were tainted

And there is ZERO evidence that vaccines were administered to the Ebola victims much less that they were "tainted."

that is not what the localshave said. You can call them ignorant or backwoods. But they know the anecdotal proofs. They see it and feel it.

Anecdote and evidence are two different things. There is no such thing as an anecdotal "proof" of anything.

I've worked in those areas as a physician. Rumors and superstition are very powerful there. The average person has barely a second grade education. Illiteracy abounds. They hear a rumor and spread it and believe it because "this guy their cousin knew said it was so." Kind of like you and your conspiracy websites--they are just as gullible due to poor education. What's your excuse?

And from what i understand ebola has never been present in this area.
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originally posted by: VashKonnor
Who is more gullible:

Myself for believing an international community of scientists and doctors, people who have credibility in their fields.

Or you for believing in texts written in websites that anyone with enough free time can write?

You're an imbecile.

Just like Charlie Brown, you're a good man but FAR too gullible...

These people, it turns out, are operating from what I called The Gullible Mind. It is a psychological processing malfunction that filters out information based on its source rather than its integrity. People who operate from The Gullible Mind tend to have misplaced trust in governments, institutions, mainstream news networks, doctors, scientists or anyone who wears the garb of apparent authority.

But how does this work inside their heads? It's an interesting process. Gullible Mind people do believe it is possible for a government (or institution) to lie; but they believe that governments, institutions and doctors choose NOT to lie even when it would serve their own self interests to do so. Follow this carefully, because this is the fascinating part. These Gullible Mind people effectively believe that even though a government official could lie about something, they would never actually do so.

The gullible mind explained

originally posted by: manna2

originally posted by: VashKonnor
a reply to: manna2

Did you know there is not one single vaccination program ever, in any part of the world where they were proven to efficacy? Not one!

That's false.

The only reason why some viruses or diseases still exist it's exactly due to people who do not believe in vaccination and insist on not taking them, making it possible for the virus to continue to evolve and survive.

Smallpox and polio are two great examples of deadly diseases who got controlled and disappeared from society due to vaccination.

that is ridiculous. Most cases come from the vaccinated.
and show me proof I am wrong

btw. Without vaccination programs you never would have heard much about polio and small pox. These were media inspired events to sell the new Rockefeller vaccine based modern medicine. It was the vaccines that spread it. It was the media that sold the hype. As more people got vaccinated the dis-ease spread, the more the media hyped the need for vaccines

What? That's insane. Thousands upon thousands of people were affected by polio long before Salk and his vaccine. With the first epidemic in the US being in 1894. The first large scale trial was in 1954--60 years later. What you said is utter nonsense.

www.historyofvaccines.org...

a reply to: manna2

no proof it was irradicated by vaccines outside of propoganda pieces.

What propaganda? People not dying isn't propaganda.

there is no study that satisfies a true observance that small pox was irradicated by vaccine.

The person who told you that is not only a moron, imbecile and outright azzhole, he is also full of sh#.

The scientific community doesn't need studies to understand why smallpox disappeared. Everyone with a brain between their ears will know that it was a vaccine.

You know why? Because when there was no vaccine people died from smallpox. And then when there was a vaccine, people stopped dying from smallpox, to the point it disappeared!

Cause and effect. You don't need to be Einstein to understand it.

I easily give more proof it was the vaccine program that increased the epidemic

Better yet, I dare you to find a person with smallpox.

originally posted by: Murgatroid

originally posted by: NavyDoc
Bwah,ha,ha! You don't actually believe this, do you? What evidence besides a paranoid site does he present for this?

I believe your BOSS for starters...

The US government study (declassified in 2009) which showed definitively that Nano Silver at 10PPM IS the definitive prevention and therapy for Ebola virus “somehow” got “overlooked”. We do not know how long before that the work actually took place. But the US civilian authorities knew not later than 2009 that there is a cure, treatment and prevention for Ebola virus.

Why the UN, CDC and WHO Want You to Believe Ebola Has No Cure or Treatment

PROOF OF SUPPRESSION OF EBOLA THERAPY

Sorry those websites are full of unsubstantiated claims by a kook. There is no evidence that any of that is true.

originally posted by: NavyDoc

originally posted by: manna2

originally posted by: VashKonnor
a reply to: manna2

Did you know there is not one single vaccination program ever, in any part of the world where they were proven to efficacy? Not one!

That's false.

The only reason why some viruses or diseases still exist it's exactly due to people who do not believe in vaccination and insist on not taking them, making it possible for the virus to continue to evolve and survive.

Smallpox and polio are two great examples of deadly diseases who got controlled and disappeared from society due to vaccination.

that is ridiculous. Most cases come from the vaccinated.
and show me proof I am wrong

btw. Without vaccination programs you never would have heard much about polio and small pox. These were media inspired events to sell the new Rockefeller vaccine based modern medicine. It was the vaccines that spread it. It was the media that sold the hype. As more people got vaccinated the dis-ease spread, the more the media hyped the need for vaccines

What? That's insane. Thousands upon thousands of people were affected by polio long before Salk and his vaccine. With the first epidemic in the US being in 1894. The first large scale trial was in 1954--60 years later. What you said is utter nonsense.

www.historyofvaccines.org...

and because of better sanitation and knowledge of hygeine they were pretty much irradicated. Now we have serious problems from a constantly depleted immune system fro bombardment of pollutants and toxins in food, water, air and medicine.
you cannot even keep up naming all the new dis-eases that the immune system used to easily handle.

we are primed for the pandemics at our doorstep

originally posted by: manna2
And from what i understand ebola has never been present in this area.
a reply to: NavyDoc

Also not true:
Outbreaks have been in these regions before.

Known infection in gorillas in these regions.

www.naturalsciences.be... la

originally posted by: manna2

originally posted by: NavyDoc

originally posted by: manna2

originally posted by: VashKonnor
a reply to: manna2

Did you know there is not one single vaccination program ever, in any part of the world where they were proven to efficacy? Not one!

That's false.

The only reason why some viruses or diseases still exist it's exactly due to people who do not believe in vaccination and insist on not taking them, making it possible for the virus to continue to evolve and survive.

Smallpox and polio are two great examples of deadly diseases who got controlled and disappeared from society due to vaccination.

that is ridiculous. Most cases come from the vaccinated.
and show me proof I am wrong

btw. Without vaccination programs you never would have heard much about polio and small pox. These were media inspired events to sell the new Rockefeller vaccine based modern medicine. It was the vaccines that spread it. It was the media that sold the hype. As more people got vaccinated the dis-ease spread, the more the media hyped the need for vaccines

What? That's insane. Thousands upon thousands of people were affected by polio long before Salk and his vaccine. With the first epidemic in the US being in 1894. The first large scale trial was in 1954--60 years later. What you said is utter nonsense.

www.historyofvaccines.org...

and because of better sanitation and knowledge of hygeine they were pretty much irradicated. Now we have serious problems from a constantly depleted immune system fro bombardment of pollutants and toxins in food, water, air and medicine.
you cannot even keep up naming all the new dis-eases that the immune system used to easily handle.

we are primed for the pandemics at our doorstep

You just said the vaccines CAUSED the disease. I demonstrated that the disease existed long BEFORE the vaccines where even out there. Caught in your own ignorance, you now shift gears? Is the only thing that you know about such subjects from conspiracy sites or do you think for yourself?

Lies and no facts

Text www.vaccinationcouncil.org...

Text Parry summarized the questions raised by Dr Garrow as follows:
1. How is it that small-pox is five times as likely to be fatal in the vaccinated as in unvaccinated.
2. How is it that, as the percentage of people vaccinated has steadily fallen from about 85 in 1870 to about 40 in 1925, the number of people attacked with variola has declined pari passu and the case mortality has progressively lessened? The years of least vaccination have been the years of least small-pox and of least mortality.
3. How is it that in some of our best vaccinated towns – for example Bombay and Calcutta – small-pox is rife, whilst in some of our worst vaccinated towns, such as Leicester, it is almost unknown?
4. How is it that something like 80 percent of the cases admitted into the Metropolitan Asylum Board small-pox hospitals have been vaccinated whilst only 20 percent have not been vaccinated?
5. How is it that in Germany, the best vaccinated country in the world, there are more deaths [from smallpox] in proportion to the population than in England – for example, in 1919, 28 deaths in England, 707 in Germany; in 1920, 30 deaths in England, 354 in Germany. In Germany, in 1919 there were 5,012 cases of small-pox with 6 deaths. What is the explanation?
6. Is it possible to explain the lessened incidence and fatality of small-pox on the same grounds as the lessened incidence and fatality of other infectious fevers – namely, as due to improved hygiene and administrative control? He finished his letter to the editor with these words: “There are just a few points in connection with the subject which are puzzling me, and to which I want answers. I am in doubt and I want to know the truth. Will some of the experts help me?”

The “experts” commented that:
“We think that Dr Parry, in his desire for enlightenment, would have been wiser not to introduce assumptions of fact into the framework of his questions.”

- See more at: www.vaccinationcouncil.org...

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Text In early 2003, a decision was made to reinstitute smallpox vaccination for selected segments of the US population on the basis of concern that smallpox could be used as an agent of bioterrorism. However, soon it was established that certain questions about the risk of smallpox vaccination in a 21st century arose such as the possibility that the current United States population might be more vulnerable to serious adverse effects of the smallpox vaccine due to a relative increase – compared with 3 to 4 decades ago – in conditions affecting the immune system such as the use of immunosuppressive drugs and the presence of human immunodeficiency virus infection in the community. Many recipients of smallpox vaccine developed serious cardiac events (MMWR; March 28 2002), myopericarditis (JAMA; 289(24): 3283-3289) cardiac death (MMWR; Oct 16 2003), focal and generalized folliculitis (JAMA; 289(24): 3290-3294) and there was also a multistate outbreak of ‘monkeypox’ (MMWR; 52 (24): June 20).

We have to pause here and think: why would the majority of the US population suffer weaker immune system, with all the US expensive medical technology? It is conspicuous that the authors mentioned only immunosuppressive drugs and AIDS, but forgot to mention the most widely-used immunosuppressive agents – vaccines of all kind. The most damaging are, of course, the vaccinations administered early in infancy. One of the major damaging effects of such vaccines is done to the cardio-vascular system (Kawasaki’s disease and its many synonyms; Scheibner 2009a). However, the pandemic of diabetes, obesity (Scheibner 2009b) and behavioral problems such as ADHD, autism, learning problems and bizarre criminality (school shootings, murder suicides) reached catastrophic proportions (Scheibner 2009c).

- See more at: www.vaccinationcouncil.org...

Ok, vaccines are the cause of the epidemics and in most people, the large majority, are caused by the vaccine. Look at my last post and the link. People who get vaccinated are 5 times more likely to become infecteda reply to: NavyDoc