Ebola Patient in Atlanta Hospital

Yeesh. Maybe I'm not so happy if they took the doc to USAMRIID:

In late 2001, USAMRIID became the FBI’s reference lab for forensic evidence related to the bioterror incident known as "Amerithrax" in which anthrax-laden letters were sent through the US Postal Service, killing 5 people and sickening 17 others. The response by USAMRIID as it interacted with the FBI, HHS, DOJ, CIA and the White House are detailed in Richard Preston's 2002 book The Demon in the Freezer.[3]

That would explain why the DoD and FBI are all over this, buuuuuut.........

An inspection by USAMRMC, conducted seven months after the Amerithrax incidents, found that Suite B-3 in Building 1425 at the Institute not only was contaminated with anthrax in three locations but the bacteria had escaped from secure areas in the building to those that were unprotected. The report stated that, "safety procedures at the facility and in individual laboratories were lax and inadequately documented; that safety supervision sometimes was carried out by junior personnel with inadequate training or survey instruments; and that exposures of dangerous bacteria at the lab, including anthrax, had not been adequately reported."[4]

Source

a reply to: 00nunya00
can't trust them as far as the walk to the waiting room where the person who won't stop coughing is sitting and has recently decided "# it this mask they gave me is uncomfortable"

a reply to: Destinyone
a reply to: loam

my thoughts exactly gentlemen, anything to see the family again.

if we make it out of this look for my name on the next viral outbreak blockbuster, it's gonna parallel sawyer's actual doings... what a #in script eh?

originally posted by: adnanmuf

originally posted by: 00nunya00

originally posted by: adnanmuf
If you look in the dirt you find 1000 different types of viruses. Viruses can live dormant. Especially the tropical kind.

Please cite your source that allows you to say "I KNOW it's in plants and dirt." If you know it, you must have a body of research you're drawing from. You can even take a pic of the page of the book you're getting it from, if you have one. Just something other than your word.

I know it because I read it!
the reston virus .
I cant remember where i read it.you google.
youd better not bother me again,
and stop talking abouit grady and bull Cd4 and crap.
nothing can stop the Flue.
The ebola is much infectious than the flue by a hundred times.
so please end the spell of grady on this thread.

That's not how it works. If you read it, give the book title you read it in; I will go out and buy it tomorrow and report back. If you make claims, YOU MUST BACK THEM UP WITH EVIDENCE otherwise you're just lying. Period. You're lying. Give it up, or cough up the evidence. There are rules against trolling at this site. You're walking a fine line here. The claims you're making are tantamount to yelling "fire!" in a crowded theater. Back it up, or expect no one to believe a single thing you say.

As yopu may know bats have the SARS virus for a hunderd million years. in the bat belly there are 10000 different Corona viruses most notably the SARS virus and the MERS Middle East Respiratory Syndrome Corona virus.

they ve been living in every bat belly all over the world . all bats have in their bellies the same 10000 kinds of corona viruses.
So if the bat # while flying wont you call the virus is resident in the dirt on the treesetc.
What if the virus decided to lie back on a leaf, would you mind Mr.?

a reply to: 00nunya00

Geeze Loise. Who's training who on protocol..the CDC or USAMRIID.

Yup folks...we have nadda ziltch..nothing to worry about...

Des

originally posted by: adnanmuf
As yopu may know bats have the SARS virus for a hunderd million years. in the bat belly there are 10000 different Corona viruses most notably the SARS virus and the MERS Middle East Respiratory Syndrome Corona virus.

they ve been living in every bat belly all over the world . all bats have in their bellies the same 10000 kinds of corona viruses.
So if the bat # while flying wont you call the virus is resident in the dirt on the treesetc.
What if the virus decided to lie back on a leaf, would you mind Mr.?

[Citation needed]

Fun side note: my father just traveled to Atlanta for a shoot. This morning before his flight back they stopped in a touristy coca cola museum type deal that exists there I guess. At some point during the tour they were crowded in an overfilled room with a large group (like 40-50) people that all looked to be together. He asked them where they were from and they said

"The Ivory Coast"

it would be in wikipedia in corona, MERS , SARS are you happy now, that I oriented you to the place where to look?

originally posted by: adnanmuf
it would be in wikipedia in corona, MERS , SARS are you happy now, that I oriented you to the place where to look?

We would be much happier if you posted the link that supports your post, instead of telling us to go look on Wikipedia.

Des

originally posted by: adnanmuf
it would be in wikipedia in corona, MERS , SARS are you happy now, that I oriented you to the place where to look?

Nope, you need to provide a source for the following claims:

-As yopu may know bats have the SARS virus for a hunderd million years.

in the bat belly there are 10000 different Corona viruses

all bats have in their bellies the same 10000 kinds of corona viruses.

I'm patient, I can wait. Bats are a common carrier of diseases of all sorts, but your claims are outlandish. I will concede the point and apologize if you can come up with sources for every single one of these claims.

ETA: and you STILL have yet to provide a source for the claims that ebola is KNOWN to live and replicate in plants and dirt (a citation for viruses like herpes does not count; it must be ebola-specific)

a reply to: adnanmuf
But how long would a coronavirus survive on a leaf?

A virus consists mostly of RNA and cannot survive without host cells.

www.scripps.edu...

“Ebola virus is fragile and does not survive long outside the body, so the best protection is to avoid direct contact with bodily fluids from infected people.

Ebola normally needs to be in the bloodstream in order to grow, and it is thought to arrive there via the surface of the eye, or by attaching to cells lining the throat. So, like other bloodborne infections, Ebola does not spread easily between people. Other different viruses that spread more easily usually spread through contaminated water, or by tiny droplets in the air. However, until we understand more about why the Ebola virus grows in some cells and not others, it is difficult to predict how difficult it would be for the virus to change the way it spreads.

“Ebola virus is fragile and does not survive long outside the body, so the best protection is to avoid direct contact with bodily fluids from infected people.

www.sciencemediacentre.co.nz...

a reply to: 00nunya00

its no brainer you can not prevent the Flue from spreading.
as for HIV you need a group of 50000 viruses together in one pin head to be able to infect a new person.
the ebola is said just 10 viruses or just one, so that gives you prespectus on the infectiousity of things.
it is all here in the thread mentioned earlier by the virologist who did the research.

originally posted by: adnanmuf
a reply to: 00nunya00

its no brainer you can not prevent the Flue from spreading.
as for HIV you need a group of 50000 viruses together in one pin head to be able to infect a new person.
the ebola is said just 10 viruses or just one, so that gives you prespectus on the infectiousity of things.
it is all here in the thread mentioned earlier by the virologist who did the research.

This has nothing to do with your claims of:

1) Ebola existing in plants and dirt

or

2) Your claims about bats hosting SARS for "a hundred million years" let alone the claim that they all have 10,000 coronaviruses in their bellies.

I'll wait. I'm here all week, folks, try the brisket and tip your waitress.

Too many pages to check back if this has already been posted... "NIGERIA CONFIRMS 2ND CASE"

www.cbc.ca...

also 887 deaths, that's almost +100 confirmed deaths in 24 hours? maybe someone decided to finally tally up one of those overfilled grave sites around Guinea?

from CBC:

Nigerian Health Minister Onyebuchi Chukwu said the confirmed second case in his country is a doctor who had helped treat Patrick Sawyer, the Liberian-American man who died July 25 days after arriving in Nigeria from Liberia.

Ebola Liberia West Africa
A woman prays with others from different religious groups against the spread of the Ebola virus, in Monrovia, Liberia, on Saturday. (Abbas Dulleh/The Associated Press)

Test samples are pending for three other people who also treated Sawyer and now have shown symptoms of Ebola, he said. Authorities are trying to trace and quarantine others.

also, how many people were on the planes sawyer was aboard? I remember reading one was 200+

"Nigerian authorities said a total of 70 people are under surveillance and that they hoped to have eight people in quarantine by the end of Monday in an isolation ward in Lagos. The emergence there is particularly worrisome because Lagos is the largest city in Africa with some 21 million people.

Health officials rely on "contact tracing" — locating anyone who may have been exposed, and then anyone who may have come into contact with that person.

Ben Neuman, a virologist and Ebola expert at Britain's University of Reading, said that could prove difficult at this stage.

"Contact tracing is essential but it's very hard to get enough people to do that," he said. "For the average case, you want to look back and catch the 20-30 people they had closest contact with and that takes a lot of effort and legwork ... The most important thing now is to do the contact tracing and quarantine any contacts who may be symptomatic."

again, relying on people to be truthful. people who are panicked and desperately want to return to their respective countries of "safety."

source: www.cbc.ca...

"In Sawyer's case, it appears nothing was done to question him until he fell sick on his second flight with Asky Airlines. An airline spokesman would not comment on what precautions were being taken in the aftermath of Sawyer's journey...

Health officials rely on "contact tracing" — locating anyone who may have been exposed, and then anyone who may have come into contact with that person. That may prove impossible, given that other passengers journeyed on to dozens of other cities...

Nigerian authorities so far have identified 59 people who came into contact with Sawyer. [July 29th]"

can't find numbers on plane anymore but only ELEVEN new people contacted in 4 days?!? that's absolutely unbelievable.
thank you sawyer!!!


EDIT: oops! 6 days!! 7 tomorrow.

the virus needs a host to replicate not to live. it can stay dormant. how does it stay dormant in the bat belly without invecting anything or enter a cell. they just live, or just stay. they only need a molecular layer of water on both sides of the virus. that is it.

Hah, business :-)

I'll performance manage Ebola right out the door. Nowhere near as effective as the flu. Needs to get it together...

a reply to: ~Lucidity

Richard Preston predicted this.

originally posted by: 00nunya00

originally posted by: adnanmuf
a reply to: 00nunya00

its no brainer you can not prevent the Flue from spreading.
as for HIV you need a group of 50000 viruses together in one pin head to be able to infect a new person.
the ebola is said just 10 viruses or just one, so that gives you prespectus on the infectiousity of things.
it is all here in the thread mentioned earlier by the virologist who did the research.

This has nothing to do with your claims of:

1) Ebola existing in plants and dirt

or

2) Your claims about bats hosting SARS for "a hundred million years" let alone the claim that they all have 10,000 coronaviruses in their bellies.

I'll wait. I'm here all week, folks, try the brisket and tip your waitress.

no dont wait just go to wikipedia and type corona, thats it

a reply to: JG1993

Quick edit out the last word in your post...not allowed here. The MODS will poof your whole post if you don't delete the F word.

Des

originally posted by: adnanmuf
how does it stay dormant in the bat belly without invecting anything or enter a cell.

Warm bodily fluids that are found in a mammal. It can stay on a non-animal surface for about 4 days. Not the same as being "hosted" by a plant (or, for that matter, an airplane tray table). Expel infected bodily fluids onto a plant, that SINGLE plant will be dangerous to surface contact for about 4 days. It does not host it; it does not provide a natural "reservoir." Dirt even less so.

Still waiting for citations.

a reply to: adnanmuf

I see nothing there that supports your claims. Please quote the text on Wiki that does support:

-SARS has existed in bats for 100 million years

-Bats host 10,000 coronaviruses in their bellies