Twitter, Wikileaks alert.

I cant believe we are paying 7 million so far watching that that embassy. some one can get him to Ecuador, my taxes are paying for this s'#'#t.

originally posted by: sheepslayer247
a reply to: Kali74

If I'm not mistaken, the TTIP is just a trade deal between the EU and the US. I don't think this has anything to do with that. But it's possible.

I have two theories on this.

1: This entire deal is just being blown out of proportion in order for Assange to prolong his stay in Russia.

2: There is something screwy going on within the Asian Development Bank. Perhaps they are embezzling money from that fund and greasing the palms of politicians.

Just a theory. I'm, probably way off.

Yes, your theory is way off considering you are mistaking Assange for Snowden.

Assange is inside the Ecuador Embassy in London. It's Snowden who is in Russia, and any piece of intel they could squeeze out of him is long gone.

a reply to: VashKonnor

You're correct. I was getting Snowden and Assange mixed up. My bad. I thought that Assange's stay at the embassy was coming to an end soon.....but I don't know.

Anyway, I'm still looking in to the ADB aspect. But I'm probably off there as well.

Thanks for setting me straight.

ETA: I have fixed my post. Thanks again!

originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: Illuminawty

It becomes a bit difficult to claim the moral high ground against government actions when your hand is stuck in the same cookie jar with those you are taking to task for their actions..

Julian Assange stated he wanted to hold governments accountable. That also becomes difficult when he cant hold himself accountable. his position has moved into the do as I say and not as I do realm.

True, but the best way to hurt the government is to take money from them (for a change) and then get away with it. I mean, isn't this what they do to us in courts all the time, to teach us a lesson...."well back at ya Beeotches"..no morals required. I laugh when someone burns the government, takes money from them, and tells all their dirty little CRIMINAL secrets...and then you will notice, its the government who takes the moral high ground and calls someone who rats them out for being criminals.....a terrorist. Who are they if the honest are terrorists? While they go into other countries and bomb innocent civilians by the thousands (women and children included) and then call the very ones who they bombed....who are just protecting their families from US the intruders....terrorists as well. If the US government are not terrorists...then define what one is. They themselves have defined it, and they define themselves. They are the ones wearing the masks and sending Academi (former Blackwater...former XE) over there to murder uncontrolled by our government, and change their name every time they get a bad reputation. I would even go so far as saying that Academi is the new ISIS over there, they sure have all the same calling cards. Anyway, I have no empathy for our government, because it's clear they have none for us. As for Snowden being not responsible for himself, you know as well as anyone what the US Government does to people that tell their criminal secrets to the public....they don't live very long. If they will admit this about the deaths of over 500,000 innocent children (and counting as Madeleine Albright was secretary of state back in 1996), they would have no qualms about taking Snowden out for actually "doing" something to embarrass the US Government, plus they kill people everyday and try to convince us that it's the "right thing to do".

Good old Wiki leaks. It's been more than a few hours.

Guess views are down at their site.

originally posted by: roadgravel
Good old Wiki leaks. It's been more than a few hours.

Guess views are down at their site.

Check their twitter feed, they have posted a few updates on that

originally posted by: Hellas

originally posted by: roadgravel
Good old Wiki leaks. It's been more than a few hours.

Guess views are down at their site.

Check their twitter feed, they have posted a few updates on that

I thought I just did. Must be old copy.

I don't think Wikileaks is anything like what they made it out to be. I think they need money and worked this to make them look like something they are not.

originally posted by: roadgravel

originally posted by: Hellas

originally posted by: roadgravel
Good old Wiki leaks. It's been more than a few hours.

Guess views are down at their site.

Check their twitter feed, they have posted a few updates on that

I thought I just did. Must be old copy.

I don't think Wikileaks is anything like what they made it out to be. I think they need money and worked this to make them look like something they are not.

It's always about the money!

A person could release data on corruption, etc. Or they can sit on it, talk about it, or try to make it into a press piece and this is what happens.

But then I can understand not wanting to die for publishing certain things. If that is the case, shut the place down.

originally posted by: Destinyone
I only have one questions. Does this make all of us posting in this thread guilty of breaking a multi-government gag order.

If so...does anybody really care.

Des

In Australia, it does and no, the only people that care are fat old judges so they can sit and swivel for all any of us care.

It's not exactly a massive disclosure on anything, but it's interesting and at the very least a fun middle finger to the government.

originally posted by: Chickensalad
Now this may be a complete stretch on my part but....does anybody know what these countries have in common???

MH370

Just sayin...

I'm not doubting a word you're saying, but could you elaborate for the uninformed (me).

a reply to: Illuminawty

Aside from the use of the word corruption has any info been located to explain specifically what is going on? Or is this one of those "lets jump the gun because a judge does not want people talking about this case so their must be some grand conspiracy behind it" type things.

Its entirely possible the investigation is ongoing and the injunction was put in place in part due to Diplomatic sensitivities. There is no reason to assume the injunction will remain in place once this progresses farther along.

originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: Illuminawty

Aside from the use of the word corruption has any info been located to explain specifically what is going on? Or is this one of those "lets jump the gun because a judge does not want people talking about this case so their must be some grand conspiracy behind it" type things.

Its entirely possible the investigation is ongoing and the injunction was put in place in part due to Diplomatic sensitivities. There is no reason to assume the injunction will remain in place once this progresses farther along.

They were busted for spying on American citizens and collecting mass amounts of personal data, as well as infringing on the rights of the public. We break a simple law we go to jail...there's no gray area here. They broke the law. Theres no `jumping the gun` or any other one liners you can come up with. They hold us accountable...we hold them accountable for the same thing, at least that's the way it should be, but its really one sided in the governments favor. The investigation is over, and they got caught. They got caught, because of his actions. it`s not a conspiracy, if it was investigated and Snowden delivered the goods. That's the thing about that word `conspiracy`, it can be used almost in any defence when someone is trying to twist a situation into the governments favor. however, this is well known news, and if you are defending the government for their criminal acts, you had well have done your homework and know exactly what they did. If we do what they did...we would be called traitors, and could be put to death or at the very least we would never see the light of day from a prison window again. The government thinks they can do everything they tell us we cant and then some....and they do. Well those hypocrites need to be checked sometimes. That's why we used to have `checks and balances`, however now we need whistleblowers because the government was stacked by Bush and Obama with their own people...now no one holds them accountable. This is why we need people like Snowden, without his kind, we would never hear anything but media lies....kind of like it was before he brought the proof against them. They then, back peddled and said they were doing it for our personal security. I bet...spying on me...to protect myself. I suspect you are trying to get other sheep in here that are weak and unaware to vicariously believe what you`re saying by spitting out this diatribe, but I have read and seen too much in all my years and there`s no way you will get me to bury my head in the sand after all I have seen. Get with it man, you know he did the right thing by informing the people of a rogue government .Are they paying you or something lol

I think people are expecting too much from Wikileaks. They're basically an independent journalistic tool relying on sources that are risking their careers and lives, hence in short supply. They're not going to be some super secret-revealing organisation that tells absolutely everything since governments have a talent for destroying or losing the really bad evidence.

This Australian corruption scandal is pretty big news, there were some big names involved including the Thailand President, and even though most of the news is not exactly surprising, having actual evidence of it is quite impressive. The more evidence into corrupt high-ranking officials that's out there the better.

My guess is something about a Gas/Oil Pipeline in Ukraine and the secret fight over said pipeline.

There's a huge secret battle going on over there. Perhaps a plane crash isn't what it seems.

So, I went thru 6 pages only to find out nothing is going on? WTF! That’s time I could have used to download porn!

Geesh!

a reply to: Propulsion

Governments are being undermined - I'd say that counts as something going on.

What ever became of the Wikileaks "Insurance File" that so many people downloaded, was the password ever released?

This is just another Bombshell Distraction.

Give the Hungry Conspiracy Theorists "Bread and Circuses"

originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: Rosinitiate

Nope its not.

The alleged crime occurred in Sweden, not the UK. The UK has no jurisdiction with the exception of extradition.

Yes but he's in the UK. In fact, sheltered in an embassy. His lawyers have presented him legally in every hearing regarding the charges as well as extradition. I'm just curious how that equates to him "not answering in the court of law"?

Except for when it comes to answering charges in a court of law.