BREAKING: UN votes in favour of draft resolution regarding Israel's actions in Gaza.

originally posted by: sosobad

originally posted by: TinfoilTP
If the UN would have stopped Hamas from launching missiles into Israel none of this would be happening.

The UN could have easily stopped Hamas at any time, they could have cut off UNRWA funding, which is the UN agency whose sole purpose of existence is to fund all of the Palestinians.
Instead the UN sets up schools through UNRWA to teach anti_semitism and to store rockets in. THey also provide ambulances to act as apc troop carriers for hamas. Watch any of the live streams from gaza and see if you can count the ak47 barrels poking out of the ambulances speeding around.

Ah still going on about the thread you made about the ambulances that ended in the hoax bin I see, why did it end up in the hoax bin again? Because you where purposely pushing videos that where 5 years old as events happening currently in Gaza.

Someone else retagged the date of the video, and it was removed from hoax because it is easily proven militants still use ambulances.

Would you care to see IDF combat cam footage?

originally posted by: TinfoilTP

originally posted by: sosobad

originally posted by: TinfoilTP
If the UN would have stopped Hamas from launching missiles into Israel none of this would be happening.

The UN could have easily stopped Hamas at any time, they could have cut off UNRWA funding, which is the UN agency whose sole purpose of existence is to fund all of the Palestinians.
Instead the UN sets up schools through UNRWA to teach anti_semitism and to store rockets in. THey also provide ambulances to act as apc troop carriers for hamas. Watch any of the live streams from gaza and see if you can count the ak47 barrels poking out of the ambulances speeding around.

Ah still going on about the thread you made about the ambulances that ended in the hoax bin I see, why did it end up in the hoax bin again? Because you where purposely pushing videos that where 5 years old as events happening currently in Gaza.

Someone else retagged the date of the video, and it was removed from hoax because it is easily proven militants still use ambulances.

Would you care to see IDF combat cam footage?
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The video you got from the IDF YouTube channel, why yes I did. The one with the heat signatures of men getting into a van, how do you know that is an ambulance? Also how do you know that was terrorists? They have been known to kill civilians too you know.

The draft resolution vaguely condemns the death of two Israeli's, it doesn't mention Hamas or PFLP, doesn't describe Gaza rocket fire at Israel, nor does it call for investigations in Israeli towns affected by rocket fire. The resolution was brought forward and written by the Arab League, OIC and Non Aligned Movement states, plenty human rights abusers among them.

From what have gathered over the years here is that the UN has untold troops stationed all around the US ready to put the entire country, all fifty states and 350 million people, under lock down.

Yet, over the last 50 years the UN has failed to do anything about this mess, nothing, not one thing, nothing, zero.

I cannot reconcile the two things.

originally posted by: TinfoilTP
If the UN would have stopped Hamas from launching missiles into Israel none of this would be happening.

The UN could have easily stopped Hamas at any time, they could have cut off UNRWA funding, which is the UN agency whose sole purpose of existence is to fund all of the Palestinians.
Instead the UN sets up schools through UNRWA to teach anti_semitism and to store rockets in. THey also provide ambulances to act as apc troop carriers for hamas. Watch any of the live streams from gaza and see if you can count the ak47 barrels poking out of the ambulances speeding around.

So i guess that same logic also works for all of the Israeli violations prior to the establishment of Hamas. Am i right?

You blame Hamas, like the good sheep that you are. Indeed, Hamas are extreme, but to blame everything on them, while ignoring the force which are actually dropping the bombs, speaks volumes of your biases. The truth is, Israel has been violating international law since long before the establishment of Hamas, and it will continue to violate international law if they are left unchecked.

See this thread for further details:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

originally posted by: daaskapital

originally posted by: TinfoilTP
If the UN would have stopped Hamas from launching missiles into Israel none of this would be happening.

The UN could have easily stopped Hamas at any time, they could have cut off UNRWA funding, which is the UN agency whose sole purpose of existence is to fund all of the Palestinians.
Instead the UN sets up schools through UNRWA to teach anti_semitism and to store rockets in. THey also provide ambulances to act as apc troop carriers for hamas. Watch any of the live streams from gaza and see if you can count the ak47 barrels poking out of the ambulances speeding around.

So i guess that same logic also works for all of the Israeli violations prior to the establishment of Hamas. Am i right?

You blame Hamas, like the good sheep that you are. Indeed, Hamas are extreme, but to blame everything on them, while ignoring the force which are actually dropping the bombs, speaks volumes of your biases. The truth is, Israel has been violating international law since long before the establishment of Hamas, and it will continue to violate international law if they are left unchecked.

See this thread for further details:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Before Hamas?
Enlighten yourself.

If the UN finds them guilty of war crimes then can they issue arrest warrants for Nutnyahoo and company? I hope so. That would be a great day on earth.

originally posted by: TinfoilTP

originally posted by: daaskapital

originally posted by: TinfoilTP
If the UN would have stopped Hamas from launching missiles into Israel none of this would be happening.

The UN could have easily stopped Hamas at any time, they could have cut off UNRWA funding, which is the UN agency whose sole purpose of existence is to fund all of the Palestinians.
Instead the UN sets up schools through UNRWA to teach anti_semitism and to store rockets in. THey also provide ambulances to act as apc troop carriers for hamas. Watch any of the live streams from gaza and see if you can count the ak47 barrels poking out of the ambulances speeding around.

So i guess that same logic also works for all of the Israeli violations prior to the establishment of Hamas. Am i right?

You blame Hamas, like the good sheep that you are. Indeed, Hamas are extreme, but to blame everything on them, while ignoring the force which are actually dropping the bombs, speaks volumes of your biases. The truth is, Israel has been violating international law since long before the establishment of Hamas, and it will continue to violate international law if they are left unchecked.

See this thread for further details:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Before Hamas?
Enlighten yourself.

We are talking about Hamas and your allegations of UN support for them, not prior extremist movements and their Nazi connections. Stop trying to deflect the conversation.

I am aware of some of the history regarding the Arabs, prior to the establishment of Hamas, but you act as if Israel is completely innocent when it comes to conflict with them (Arabs). As i was stating, Israel has violated international law before the establishment of Hamas, and they have continued to do so since. Am i correct in that assertion? Yes, the United Nations has pulled Israel up on such actions many times.

You may talk about Haj Amin al-Husseini and his connections all you want. I'm saying that you can't blame the Palestinians for everything that has, and is, happening to them.

originally posted by: buster2010

originally posted by: thesaneone
a reply to: Kali74
As I was saying.
www.nytimes.com...< br />

“None of the Arab countries are being supportive. The entire burden is on the Palestinians,” said Mondher Maamar, a Tunisian protester who marched in support of Palestinians in Gaza in his country’s capital on Friday.

If none of the Muslim nations are supportive of Palestine then where are they getting their weapons and rockets from? Are kids building them under the desks of the schools Israel bombs?

Only one country is arming Hamas, and Hezbollah for that matter...Iran.

originally posted by: daaskapital

originally posted by: TinfoilTP

originally posted by: daaskapital

originally posted by: TinfoilTP
If the UN would have stopped Hamas from launching missiles into Israel none of this would be happening.

The UN could have easily stopped Hamas at any time, they could have cut off UNRWA funding, which is the UN agency whose sole purpose of existence is to fund all of the Palestinians.
Instead the UN sets up schools through UNRWA to teach anti_semitism and to store rockets in. THey also provide ambulances to act as apc troop carriers for hamas. Watch any of the live streams from gaza and see if you can count the ak47 barrels poking out of the ambulances speeding around.

So i guess that same logic also works for all of the Israeli violations prior to the establishment of Hamas. Am i right?

You blame Hamas, like the good sheep that you are. Indeed, Hamas are extreme, but to blame everything on them, while ignoring the force which are actually dropping the bombs, speaks volumes of your biases. The truth is, Israel has been violating international law since long before the establishment of Hamas, and it will continue to violate international law if they are left unchecked.

See this thread for further details:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Before Hamas?
Enlighten yourself.

We are talking about Hamas and your allegations of UN support for them, not prior extremist movements and their Nazi connections. Stop trying to deflect the conversation.

I am aware of some of the history regarding the Arabs, prior to the establishment of Hamas, but you act as if Israel is completely innocent when it comes to conflict with them (Arabs). As i was stating, Israel has violated international law before the establishment of Hamas, and they have continued to do so since. Am i correct in that assertion? Yes, the United Nations has pulled Israel up on such actions many times.

You may talk about Haj Amin al-Husseini and his connections all you want. I'm saying that you can't blame the Palestinians for everything that has, and is, happening to them.

You steered the debate to " prior to the establishment of Hamas".

Nice try attempting to generalize by terming them just "Arabs". Al Husseini was a Palestinian, and not just any Palestinian he was the face of Palestinian resistance before during and after WWII (long before there was an Israel and afterwards), who mentored Arafat another Palestinian.

In order to understand Palestinian resistance you must understand the start of it, the dark path it chose to not only follow but pave along the way through it's leadership.

In order for Palestinians to get legitimacy in the world, they must somehow produce leaders that are not connected to that past. Having leaders that willfully strategize to genocide their own people to somehow gain legitimacy is not working.

First American jews wanted us to bomb concentration camps in Germany to end the suffering now suddenly jews don't want to be bombed? there's just no pleasing the jews.

originally posted by: TinfoilTP

originally posted by: daaskapital

originally posted by: TinfoilTP

originally posted by: daaskapital

originally posted by: TinfoilTP
If the UN would have stopped Hamas from launching missiles into Israel none of this would be happening.

The UN could have easily stopped Hamas at any time, they could have cut off UNRWA funding, which is the UN agency whose sole purpose of existence is to fund all of the Palestinians.
Instead the UN sets up schools through UNRWA to teach anti_semitism and to store rockets in. THey also provide ambulances to act as apc troop carriers for hamas. Watch any of the live streams from gaza and see if you can count the ak47 barrels poking out of the ambulances speeding around.

So i guess that same logic also works for all of the Israeli violations prior to the establishment of Hamas. Am i right?

You blame Hamas, like the good sheep that you are. Indeed, Hamas are extreme, but to blame everything on them, while ignoring the force which are actually dropping the bombs, speaks volumes of your biases. The truth is, Israel has been violating international law since long before the establishment of Hamas, and it will continue to violate international law if they are left unchecked.

See this thread for further details:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Before Hamas?
Enlighten yourself.

We are talking about Hamas and your allegations of UN support for them, not prior extremist movements and their Nazi connections. Stop trying to deflect the conversation.

I am aware of some of the history regarding the Arabs, prior to the establishment of Hamas, but you act as if Israel is completely innocent when it comes to conflict with them (Arabs). As i was stating, Israel has violated international law before the establishment of Hamas, and they have continued to do so since. Am i correct in that assertion? Yes, the United Nations has pulled Israel up on such actions many times.

You may talk about Haj Amin al-Husseini and his connections all you want. I'm saying that you can't blame the Palestinians for everything that has, and is, happening to them.

You steered the debate to " prior to the establishment of Hamas".

Nice try attempting to generalize by terming them just "Arabs". Al Husseini was a Palestinian, and not just any Palestinian he was the face of Palestinian resistance before during and after WWII (long before there was an Israel and afterwards), who mentored Arafat another Palestinian.

In order to understand Palestinian resistance you must understand the start of it, the dark path it chose to not only follow but pave along the way through it's leadership.

In order for Palestinians to get legitimacy in the world, they must somehow produce leaders that are not connected to that past. Having leaders that willfully strategize to genocide their own people to somehow gain legitimacy is not working.

You're the one taking statements out of context and posting videos unrelated to the topic at hand...

As for generalising Palestinians as Arabs, i done nothing of the sort. It wasn't only the Palestinians of whom waged war with the Israelis...you should know that.

It is unwise to condemn one just because of specific associations they may have had. Just as it is unwise to convict someone guilty by association. Indeed, the PLO (now led by Mahmoud Abbas) is recognised as the official representative of the Palestinian people by Israel. Just as the PLO recognises Israel's right to exist in peace. There may be some dark history, but it shouldn't tarnish the future prospects of peace between both, the Palestinian state and the Israeli state.

originally posted by: GogoVicMorrow
a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

What suicide bombers? None in this conflict. None I can recall since like 2004. Also.. it's not radicalism that drove those people. It's not like the radicals in other Muslim countries doing it in a religious rage. These are people who watched their families oppressed until the day they were killed. If you lived in a state surrounded by other states that oppressed you and then bombed and killed your entire family in search of a few militants roaming around, you have no loved ones left, you might be ready to end it all - and you might want to strike back however possible at the corrupt government that did it. It's desperation not radicalism.

Why you ask to a lesser extent... well because they have committed crimes to a lesser extent.

You think someone who killed almost exclusively invading forces but accidentally killed 2 civilians (one of them at the border aiding forces) deserves to be punished more or equal to a group with high tech weapons that could be used with pinpoint accuracy (but instead chose to use indiscriminate bombing and flachette rounds - created to kill anything in a wide area) that instead killed over 400 civilians including 70-120 children?

Hamas to a lesser extent because they aren't the ones committing war crimes. Israel is bombing fish in a barrel. Honestly I think they should be shuffled into a few small cities and have the land given to the palestinians. They will still have their land and they can live there just fine. If it's good enough for Palestinians it's good enough for them.

how romantic.

this isn't hollywood, tho.

if hamas wants israel to stop killing them, they should stop firing rockets at them.

sounds like a no-brainer to me.

a reply to: flice
You are from Denmark and you don't know that your country is from the tribe of Dan which was a son of Israel, so that makes you a Israelite. Maybe you should read "THE BOOK".

If the palestinians were to go back to North Africa where they came from that would take care of the problem.

ISRAEL IS THERE TO STAY.

originally posted by: tbird03
a reply to: flice
You are from Denmark and you don't know that your country is from the tribe of Dan which was a son of Israel, so that makes you a Israelite. Maybe you should read "THE BOOK".

If the palestinians were to go back to North Africa where they came from that would take care of the problem.

ISRAEL IS THERE TO STAY.

Maybe every human should move back to east Africa since that's where we all originate from, that would also take care of the problem.

a reply to: sosobad
No everyone didn't come from East Africa but the palestinians came from North Africa.

originally posted by: tbird03
a reply to: sosobad
No everyone didn't come from East Africa but the palestinians came from North Africa.

It showed that part of our genome, inherited only through mothers and daughters, derived from an African ancestor about 200,000 years ago. This female ancestor became known as Mitochondrial Eve.

www.nhm.ac.uk...

Where do you originate from? Outer space?