Israel-Gaza conflict: Netanyahu says Hamas using rising death toll to make Israel look bad

a reply to: soulshn

With a statement like that, it proves to me that Benny is a complete nutjob, devoid of logic or Humanity.

It's like punching an old Woman in the face as hard as you can, then wanting her arrested for hurting your fist.

He really is a total lunatic.

a reply to: Xcathdra

Lest we forget that your country is responsible for the creation of Israel. I guess that makes you responsible for all the blood shed in the middle east.

We learn from our mistakes, at least the free thinking among our countrymen...your government however continue to send Israel more financial and military aid, per annum, than the USA sends to all the other aid charities around the world combined...and you think it is Great Britain that is responsible for the atrocities Israel carries out here and now?

Get a grip.

USA bombed Serbia because of their aggressive action against Kosovo and Kosovans

USA Invaded Iraq because of their aggression action towards Kuwait

USA backed the destruction of Libya because of their supposed maltreatment of citizens

USA backed Islamic militants (despite the so-called 'war on terror' against them) against Syria and its Government, supposedly because of their maltreatment of citizens.

And many more...YET...Israelis slaughter Palestinian Men, Women, Children and Infants wholesale, to the point of Genocide and the USA sends them more money and aid...not bombing runs, sanctions or backed regime change, but more aid!

Without the mountains of cold cash, blind eyes and deaf ears looking and listening right at them from across the Atlantic, there would be none of this routine slaughter going on there. With the first mass military slaughter, their leadership would have been sanctioned and if needed, bombed into submission and replaced with a more moderate one.

Any other country would be, and indeed has been and is still routinely ousted for much less 'maltreatment' and inhumanity and destabilising influence in the region...but i suppose the USA throwing cash, aid and immoral support at Israel hand over fist is Great Britain's fault too?

originally posted by: seasoul
Word Problem: What's an approximate difference between the Warsaw Ghetto uprising and the Gaza Strip uprising?

Acceptable Answer: 70 years.

originally posted by: DarknStormy
a reply to: neo96

Zionist, A group of people from Europe with no historical origins to Israel.

Don't forget it's based on the works from an atheist that lived in Europe that read books written in Babylon.

a reply to: Xcathdra

Hamas, and their perverted view of the religion they defile, do in fact think they are the chosen ones.

When has Hamas ever said they are the chosen ones? And if you think Hamas defiles Islam you should check out Zionism and Judaism for once. Zionism is just as much a perversion.

Hamas also has no issues with mass murder of Israeli, as well as Palestinian, civilians.

As many times as Israel has bombed schools, hospitals, herded families into homes and then shelled them shows Israel has no problem with slaughtering civilians as well.

originally posted by: SloAnPainful
a reply to: DodgyDawg

They are surrounded by hate on all sides of them... They are protecting themselves....

If you lived in a area where everyone hated you and made threats against you all the time wouldn't you be protective? I know I would be...

-SAP-

This goes back to 1947 and formation of Israel. Can you remind us how Israel was created?? Please!

Would you support in your country if happens the same, if Israel form they new country, start taking land from you and everyone else, systematically terrorizing population and creating laws that clearly are RACIAL and start building concentration camp fence around to 'protect themselves' as they have done in Palestine??

Please be honest about your reply.

Tell me again how evil Hamas is?

IDF sniper murders civilian during ceasefire
electronicintifada.net...

These war crimes are indefensible.

originally posted by: jude11
a reply to: soulshn

Israel makes themselves look bad.

No help needed.

Peace

Hamas is trying to make martyrs out of women and children , while they hide in their tunnels ; cowards

originally posted by: rickymouse
They are killing innocent children, I doubt if Israel is justified in that action. Of course, in his own mind he feels he probably is. I understand that these actions are not considered as appropriate by many of the Jewish people, but they don't have a choice anyway. The conflict there is between leaders, not really between all of the people. Many Jews and Palestine's can get along easily. But they are ignored.

i hope you are speaking of Hamas when you say ' they are killing children" Israel just returns fire from where Hamas lauches their rockets . it is hamas that choose to launch them in civilian areas , if the were men they would launch them where no civilians would be harmed

I always wonder if the elite really think we the people are stupid or low and behold can it be that tbtb can be the morons? Do netanjahohoho really belive the manure he spit out.

a reply to: jed001 if the israeli antichrist be real men they would not kill 500+ people indiscriminately when none of their own died. They could send sniper teams to take out the real guilty parties. But then with confirmed americans fighting with or rather in the idf what could you expect. Where america go atrocities follow.

If the antichrist state of israel don't steal the land of the Palestinians they will not have to defend their homes.

originally posted by: Slowjoe
a reply to: jed001 if the israeli antichrist be real men they would not kill 500+ people indiscriminately when none of their own died. They could send sniper teams to take out the real guilty parties. But then with confirmed americans fighting with or rather in the idf what could you expect. Where america go atrocities follow.

could you post links to all of your above claims , or it's just propaganda

a reply to: Xcathdra
So have you tried and find enough open space in the gaza concentration camp of Palestine where Hamas can do things? If you maybe not know this, what Hamas does is called guerrilla warfare, tactics. Tell me btw what is the worst firing missiles that you know will be shot down if it is going towards a populated area or using illegal weapons to knowingly kill no butcher innocent woman and children?

originally posted by: pennydrops
Follow the funding........back to the US.........back to the US taxpayer....YOU.

How much protesting to your own Govt have you done about this? Or are you just on ATS? I hope after showing how passionate you are...knowing it's your money paying for this, you are banging on the doors of your local politicians demanding a stop. If you are not, then you are as much to blame as the Isreali Govt. They cannot do this without your money.

I'm not American!

Personally I feel that the best way to spread my own ideology, ideas, views or thoughts isn't to speak to an official or somebody of much power. The best and most effective way I feel isn't to spread my word on Internet forums, they are often simply.a proving ground and think-tank for what I say in the real world.

The best way is to talk to normal people, politicians only truly listen to a singular person if that singular person is above them in the power chain. It is easiest and most effective, (IMHO) to talk to other people who will then - if you have a strong enough argument spread your message to others who in turn will spread it further until a sizable amount of people have a similar view, then a politician might listen, then something might be done. Right now I'm doing what I feel is effective.

originally posted by: Zcustosmorum
a reply to: soulshn

Don't take this wrong but Israel is doing one of the best impressions of the Nazis I think I've ever seen, I caught the ground op on the live feed last night and into the morning and it was relentless. I can understand how around 100 Palestinians were killed. Very hateful are the Israeli Defence Forces.

aren't you tired of making yourself look stupid by comparing the Israelis to the Nazis? Please show actual historic comparisons to how the Jews were treated by the Nazis. did the Jews every fire rockets at Berlin? because i cant find anything that says they did; please enlighten me

originally posted by: jed001

originally posted by: Zcustosmorum
a reply to: soulshn

Don't take this wrong but Israel is doing one of the best impressions of the Nazis I think I've ever seen, I caught the ground op on the live feed last night and into the morning and it was relentless. I can understand how around 100 Palestinians were killed. Very hateful are the Israeli Defence Forces.

aren't you tired of making yourself look stupid by comparing the Israelis to the Nazis? Please show actual historic comparisons to how the Jews were treated by the Nazis. did the Jews every fire rockets at Berlin? because i cant find anything that says they did; please enlighten me

I don't feel stupid and I'm talking from the genocidal aspect. Have you ever studied history, it's well known how the Nazis treated the Jews, and the Jews didn't actually do ANYTHING to the Nazis, so what makes it worse?

And I'm not saying either side is squeaky clean here, however it is fact that Palestine has slowly been eroding due to Israel for the last 50 or so years. Do you actually have a point other than an irrevelent point?

And just so you understand the definition: en.wikipedia.org...

EDIT: Furthermore my blunt-pencil like friend, you actually think with a death toll of over 500 plus (roughly 400 of which are civilians) getting wiped out by a nuclear-armed nation, that comparisons aren't going to be made between the Jews are Nazis? Either you are so far detached from reality, or you just didn't study history properly.

a reply to: MysterX

Quit living in the past.

Hamas uses Palestinians as human shields, specifically to drive up civilian death counts for propaganda reasons. Hamas should think twice before lobbing missiles into Israel. Secondly Hamas is not targeting military installations / Israeli troops.

Something, in your guys effort to blame Israel, seem to ignore.

What more can you expect from Hamas, a groups whose motto is "We like Death".

a reply to: buster2010

Then why is Hamas trying to remove Israel from the map? Their stated goal is the destruction of Israel and they will never recognize Israel as a state.

Yes - Hamas defiles Islam.

How?
Suicide is against Islam.
Killing of civilian / noncombatants is against Islam.

hams is a terror group who likes to murder Israelis for the fun of it.

originally posted by: Slowjoe
a reply to: Xcathdra
So have you tried and find enough open space in the gaza concentration camp of Palestine where Hamas can do things? If you maybe not know this, what Hamas does is called guerrilla warfare, tactics. Tell me btw what is the worst firing missiles that you know will be shot down if it is going towards a populated area or using illegal weapons to knowingly kill no butcher innocent woman and children?

You apparently don't understand how guerrilla warfare works. The goal is to undermine the enemy, not engage them in areas where Palestinian civilians are going to be killed.

Hamas uses Palestinians as human shields for the sole purpose of driving up the civilian death count. If Hamas is going to launch rockets from a populated area, then Hamas is responsible for the ensuing civilian death count.

Gaza is not a concentration camp, but nice try in trying to use holocaust terminology.

Please, explain to me how this "concentration camp" is all on Israel when Gaza has a shared border with Egypt, who has also sealed their border with Palestine?

Ironic yet not surprising you and others ignore that part.

I wonder why.