Forcing people to not care and forwarding the agenda.

a reply to: WakeUpBeer

It is good that you are not in a state of fear. Being realistic I suppose when looking at the current state of affairs could be considered synonymous with pessimistic. I see what you are saying about the upper hand these individuals have, however I look at it in quite a simple way, we have chosen to experience various levels of existence. Call it what you will, I like the term spirit. In these past rounds of existence we have been experiencing the absolute worst of ourselves and there is no telling to what point we are going to take it to.

However in my own world of things there is no reason not to have hope. I think that the vibrations that have been evolving are causing great change and inevitably we are beginning to access higher aspects of ourselves. On every level of corruption this cabal has created there are many others working to correct it. Amongst all of their oppression there is still innovation of the highest kind. We are witnessing the natural response to this corrupt system, more people are awake than asleep it just does not appear that way. The revolution is going to happen in multiple ways, the main way being that of the mind and it will not be televised.

I by no means have any clue as to how it will all turn out, however they do not have complete control, that is impossible and their hubris in believing they have such control is what will be their downfall. Earth itself is conscious and is showing signs of having enough of what they have been doing. They are not anywhere near as powerful as they have conditioned the doom porners to believe. I will laugh and continue to practice compassion, the amazing lesson my spirit has gotten to learn in a very strong way because of this round of incarnation I chose to come to. Death is only the beginning of another realm of possiblity so there is wrong way for this to end.

I would not underestimate those millions of gun owners, for they do have the military on their side and if you think all of those top military generals Obama removed from office are just going to accepts what they know is about to happen, I believe you are underestimating them. Also the militarized police force could just as easily have a change of heart. There is no telling what is going to happen, so why go with apathy in the sense of already being defeated?

a reply to: elementalgrove

Well you're right. I'm pessimistic about things. Hopefully not so much so I'm a doom porn guy, though thinking about some of my past rants to friends and family.. lol. I've been trying to think less negatively about things for awhile now, and will continue to do so. It has helped a lot, for my personal well being.

Somebody, a group out there fundamentally understands the science of tyranny, and the power of money over individuals and the collective. As if Hitler's Germany, Mao's China, Stalin's Russia, the list goes on and on, were all social experiments in building the stepping stones necessary to mould the reality today using this new way of thinking and operating

a reply to: WakeUpBeer

I have gone on rants for as long as I can remember and I very clearly remember my uncle one saying to me, how do you sleep at night? Lol my response was simple, faith. I am sure I have come across a doom porn guy myself which is why I threw it in there. I think that part of the control that they have rests in controlling our creativity, thought being the source of this I decided a while ago that being pessimistic is exactly what they would like!

It is not easy though, the world is in a ruff state of affiars. For me spirituality is the answer and believing that each soul is here to learn lessons they need , victim/aggressor alike helps maintain optimism! There is a book that helped me greatly along my path and I hope that the title of it does not shut you down. It is called Conversations with God by Neale Donald Walsch. It is a three part book, part 1 deals with yourself/ego. part 2 deals with the collective humanity part 3 discuss's higher evolved civilizations. I take the book in this way, it is a conversation between Neale's ego and his higher self, it is that simple.

If you do decide to read it I hope you enjoy it, you can typically find it at any half priced book stores!

Great post OP! Love your wording, just perfect!

After reading the responses here... I think most of the people sound like Luke Skywalker in Star Wars Episode 4, a New Hope...

Obi-Wan: [to Luke] You must learn the ways of the Force, if you're to come with me to Alderaan.
Luke: Alderaan? I'm not going to Alderaan, I've gotta get *home*, it's late, I'm in for it as it is!
Obi-Wan: I need your help, Luke. She needs your help. I'm getting too old for this sort of thing.
Luke: Look, I can't get involved. I've got work to do. It's not that I like the Empire; I hate it, but there's nothing I can do about it right now... It's all such a long way from here.
Obi-Wan: That's your uncle talking.

Then U got the han solo's types also...

Princess Leia: It's not over yet.
Han Solo: It is for me, sister. Look, I ain't in this for your revolution, and I'm not in it for you, Princess. I expect to be well paid. I'm in it for the money.
Princess Leia: You needn't worry about your reward. If money is all that you love, then that's what you'll receive.
[to Luke] Princess Leia: Your friend is quite the mercenary. I wonder if he really cares about anything. Or anybody. [she stalks out]
Luke: [calling after her] I care.

Only do something about it if it benefits them directly in some way.

So what happened to Luke to change his mind? His guardians/parents were killed by the empire... Thats the only thing that changed his mind about fighting the empire than he hated...

originally posted by: Helious


My friend, talking about the problems are a first and most needed step. Solutions and action come in time but to understand the problem, to develop a solution and form an appropriate action takes discussion. A lot of it.

Well, if talking about the problems is the first step to a solution....we're doomed!! I hold as evidence the way "discussions" are handled on ATS. Invariably it boils down to personality conflicts and insults coupled with ideological intransigence. How is a solution even possible in that atmosphere? Perhaps it's just my paranoia but it seems that is the underlying design here to create division rather than foster solutions. Emotional and psychological tyranny thru fear as the control mechanism.

Even in this very thread there are veiled threats of armed violence. Yeah, we're doomed!!!

a reply to: elementalgrove

The book title doesn't throw me off at all! I made note of it and will keep my eyes open.

originally posted by: olaru12
Even in this very thread there are veiled threats of armed violence. Yeah, we're doomed!!!

Well, if you are referring to me, I wasn't making any veiled threats of armed violence. I just know there are plenty out there who do feel that way.