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posted on Jul, 14 2014 @ 10:17 AM
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My last comment on this thread

I have no love for Israel or Palestine

I think they are both aholes

But I will say this

There was this thing called ww2. During that war countries took sides.

When the war was over the spoils went to the victors

This is how it has always been and always will be

Israel was granted her spoils in the manner of a state

The losers who picked and were allies with the losing germany dont get a say. They chose poorly.

And now they have to live with it

Basicly the same thing the u.s. did with the natives

Natives joined the brittish in the hope that brittan would win and they would get their spoils in land

But they lost a d the spoils went to america

Who doesnt understand how the spoils of war works?



posted on Jul, 14 2014 @ 11:24 AM
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Hi every1, just got here, love this forum I believe that this is the spot of most free thinkers hangout from around the world. It saddens me to read so many unfounded allegations about Israel and Palestine. It is very easy for someone leaving outside of the bubble to pass on judgments and make remarks about cultures that they never came in touch with. Sorry to say that most of you never once in your life came to the middle east and saw or experienced the situation for yourselves and yeat, seat behind a computer screen passing on judgments of an issue that that you don't have a clue. Must be hard to sit in front of a television and hear or see horrific scenes or comments by propagandists making this some what elaborated comments which have the full intention to incite more hate on this planet. Just like to make a point Israel is not what you are making them to be and neither the palestinians, this is all part of a greater plan to diverge the attention of more emminent dangers of mass control. Palestinians or arabes and jews lived in peace for many years the cancer is these fabricated islamic groups which pollutes the peoples mind.

I'll leave something interesting for you all to see please, listen carefully.

www.facebook.com...

Could'nt find the original link goes this facebook page I found, please google his name.

Great thoughts to every1.
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posted on Jul, 14 2014 @ 11:53 AM
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originally posted by: Another_Nut
My last comment on this thread

I have no love for Israel or Palestine

I think they are both aholes

But I will say this

There was this thing called ww2. During that war countries took sides.

When the war was over the spoils went to the victors

This is how it has always been and always will be

Israel was granted her spoils in the manner of a state

The losers who picked and were allies with the losing germany dont get a say. They chose poorly.

And now they have to live with it

Basicly the same thing the u.s. did with the natives

Natives joined the brittish in the hope that brittan would win and they would get their spoils in land

But they lost a d the spoils went to america

Who doesnt understand how the spoils of war works?


Lets take your simplistic approach and see how Germany are doing.



posted on Jul, 14 2014 @ 12:17 PM
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a reply to: Taggart

Ok I lied

Look at Germany s gold situation shall we?

How that doing?

O yea we wont give it back

Yiu know sopils of war and all



posted on Jul, 14 2014 @ 12:25 PM
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a reply to: RocksFromSpace

The ONLY news channel worth watching IMO.

She said it and she is spot on right...but i felt she was restraining herself, i wish she'd opened right up and kicked Benny's teeth in, metaphorically of course.



posted on Jul, 14 2014 @ 01:45 PM
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a reply to: Fylgje
But the fact is tv news needs to gain ratings and in order to gain ratings they must produce sensational stories, exclusives and claims to be the first on the scene. I don't know that there is such a thing in today's world.



posted on Jul, 14 2014 @ 03:24 PM
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a reply to: Another_Nut

that is a fair point of view and in matter a fact I hold that view since I was 11 years old.

until I grow up to be 14.

all jokes aside - that is simplistic, black and white point of view.

surely makes your life easier to narrow the opinions and choices.

(no, they are not "both assholes" brother - learn history)



posted on Jul, 14 2014 @ 04:00 PM
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a reply to: RocksFromSpace
Thanks for posting this OP
If the targeting of civilians is 'terrorism'
I'm afraid Israil already defined themselves
to be 'terrorists'

Rebel5



posted on Jul, 15 2014 @ 02:02 AM
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why are we afraid to tell the truth like that female anchor?
are you pussies?

Palestine is for the Palestinians (Palestine includes all of Palestine).

The Israelis (this is how call themselves) should go back to the counties they came from (120 countries to be exact) especially to their Mother Russia.
They kept lying to us and the world that they are descendents of Abraham, while not even one of them descend from the ancient Isralites neither by mother side nor by father side . nada.
they are descendents of Magog (Gog through their Mother side Katia the blue eyed devel-woman of Central Asia mother of the Amazon (Man killer women who married gog men the Goth according to Jordanes the Goth historian of his people the Goth AKA gog and Magog).

Palestinians are free to do what ever in their country, and the theives have to get out of the stolen property.



posted on Jul, 15 2014 @ 02:31 AM
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originally posted by: adnanmuf
why are we afraid to tell the truth like that female anchor?
are you pussies?

Palestine is for the Palestinians (Palestine includes all of Palestine).

The Israelis (this is how call themselves) should go back to the counties they came from (120 countries to be exact) especially to their Mother Russia.
They kept lying to us and the world that they are descendents of Abraham, while not even one of them descend from the ancient Isralites neither by mother side nor by father side . nada.
they are descendents of Magog (Gog through their Mother side Katia the blue eyed devel-woman of Central Asia mother of the Amazon (Man killer women who married gog men the Goth according to Jordanes the Goth historian of his people the Goth AKA gog and Magog).

Palestinians are free to do what ever in their country, and the theives have to get out of the stolen property.


Wtf are you talking about? Every genetic study' shows Jews and Palestinians are closely related.



posted on Jul, 15 2014 @ 03:11 AM
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not true.
Palestinians are 80% J1 the Haplogroup of Abraham, but the worldwide Jews are 80% R hplogroup the haplogroup of Gog and Magog of the Caucasus land of Gog and Magog, and 20% all the rest of the haplogroups of the world but mainly E3b of the Moroccan Amazyg AKA the Moors (the Sephardim Jews who came from Spain and Morocco).

they are totally unrelated and the Modern Hebrew language was improvised by a russian jew from Yiddish in the 20th century made of Russian phonetics and some Sephardim Spanish words.

They are a scam, a fraud, fraudemlent imposters. They are not desendents of Ancient Israelites, The Palestinians are.



posted on Jul, 15 2014 @ 07:02 PM
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Palestine belong to the palestinians not to the invadors who came from 120 countries supported by England that occupied Palestine in 1917 and gave Palestine to those invadors. England had no right of doing so, nor the United Nations have no right of giving a nation to other people.

The Invadors a Europpean people from Europe should leave Palestine (Middle East not Europe).
90% of World Jews are Ashkenazi Jews (AKA Europpeans) since Ashkenazi means Skythians (the Caucasian Race who lived in the Caucasus ) and later Europe. see Encyclopedia Brittanica encyclopedia 1910 for the Etymology of Ashkenazi( it is from Skythinas or Skuthi)



posted on Jul, 15 2014 @ 11:15 PM
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originally posted by: adnanmuf
not true.
Palestinians are 80% J1 the Haplogroup of Abraham, but the worldwide Jews are 80% R hplogroup the haplogroup of Gog and Magog of the Caucasus land of Gog and Magog, and 20% all the rest of the haplogroups of the world but mainly E3b of the Moroccan Amazyg AKA the Moors (the Sephardim Jews who came from Spain and Morocco).

they are totally unrelated and the Modern Hebrew language was improvised by a russian jew from Yiddish in the 20th century made of Russian phonetics and some Sephardim Spanish words.

They are a scam, a fraud, fraudemlent imposters. They are not desendents of Ancient Israelites, The Palestinians are.


You're wrong. Jews and Palestinians often have much common ancestry. The reason Palestinians have more J1 is because they have Arabian foreign admixture on the paternal line. Haplogoup is only a small part of DNA anyway.


In genetic genealogy studies, Negev Bedouins have the highest rates of Haplogroup J1 (Y-DNA) among all populations tested (62.5%) followed by the Palestinian Arab 38.4%, Ashkenazim Jewish 14.6%, and Sephardim Jewish 11.9% according to Semino et al. (2004). Semitic populations, including Jews, usually possess an excess of J1 Y chromosomes compared to other populations harboring Y-haplogroup J. A second diffusion of the J1 marker took place in the seventh century CE when Arabians brought it from Arabia to North Africa.[97] Haplogroup J1 (Y-DNA) includes the modal haplotype of the Galilee Arabs (Nebel et al. 2000) and of Moroccan Arabs (Bosch et al. 2001) and the sister Modal Haplotype of the Cohanim, the "Cohan Modale Haplotype", representing the descendents of the priestly caste Aaron.[102][103][104] J2 is known to be related to the ancient Greek movements and is found mainly in Europe and the central Mediterranean (Italy, the Balkans, Greece). A study found that the Palestinians, like Jordanians, Syrians, Iraqis, and Bedouins have what appears to be substantial gene flow from sub-Saharan Africa, amounting to 10-15% of lineages within the past three millennia.[105] According to a 2002 study by Nebel et al., on Genetic evidence for the expansion of Arabian tribes, the highest frequency of Eu10 (i.e. J1) (30%–62.5%) has been observed so far in various Muslim Arab populations in the Middle East. (Semino et al. 2000; Nebel et al. 2001).[106] The term “Arab,” as well as the presence of Arabs in the Syrian desert and the Fertile Crescent, is first seen in the Assyrian sources from the 9th century B.C.E. (Eph'al 1984).[107] In recent years, many genetic surveys have suggested that, at least paternally, most of the various Jewish ethnic divisions and the Palestinians — and in some cases other Levantines — are genetically closer to each other than the Palestinians or European Jews to non-Jewish Europeans.[108] Results of a DNA study by geneticist Ariella Oppenheim appears to match historical accounts that Arab Israelis and Palestinians,[15][16] together as the one same population, represent modern "descendants of a core population that lived in the area since prehistoric times", albeit religiously first Christianized then largely Islamized, and all eventually culturally Arabized.[15] Referring to those of the Muslim faith more specifically, it reaffirmed that Palestinian "Muslim Arabs are descended from Christians and Jews who lived in the southern Levant, a region that includes Israel, Sinai and part of Jordan." Geneticist Michael Hammer praised "the study for 'focusing in detail on the Jewish and Palestinian populations.'"[15] While both the Palestinians and the world's distinct Jewish populations have mixed with invading and host populations respectively, Oppenheim's team found "that Jews have mixed more with other populations, which makes sense because they were more likely to leave the Levant."[15]



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posted on Jul, 15 2014 @ 11:20 PM
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originally posted by: adnanmuf
Palestine belong to the palestinians not to the invadors who came from 120 countries supported by England that occupied Palestine in 1917 and gave Palestine to those invadors. England had no right of doing so, nor the United Nations have no right of giving a nation to other people.

The Invadors a Europpean people from Europe should leave Palestine (Middle East not Europe).
90% of World Jews are Ashkenazi Jews (AKA Europpeans) since Ashkenazi means Skythians (the Caucasian Race who lived in the Caucasus ) and later Europe. see Encyclopedia Brittanica encyclopedia 1910 for the Etymology of Ashkenazi( it is from Skythinas or Skuthi)


Half of Israeli Jews are not Ashkenazi anyway. Following your logic the Turks should be relocated to Central Asia and Turkey given back to Armenians and Greeks and Arabs deported back to Arabia. It's funny how Muslims always want one rule for others and another for themselves.

Apparently Israel is the only country not allowed to control it's own immigration. It's usually Muslims in the West, eg Immigants, ironically criticising this but would never demand the same standards be placed on them going back to Arabia or Pakistan.
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posted on Jul, 15 2014 @ 11:53 PM
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originally posted by: HisRoyalJewness

originally posted by: adnanmuf
Palestine belong to the palestinians not to the invadors who came from 120 countries supported by England that occupied Palestine in 1917 and gave Palestine to those invadors. England had no right of doing so, nor the United Nations have no right of giving a nation to other people.

The Invadors a Europpean people from Europe should leave Palestine (Middle East not Europe).
90% of World Jews are Ashkenazi Jews (AKA Europpeans) since Ashkenazi means Skythians (the Caucasian Race who lived in the Caucasus ) and later Europe. see Encyclopedia Brittanica encyclopedia 1910 for the Etymology of Ashkenazi( it is from Skythinas or Skuthi)


Half of Israeli Jews are not Ashkenazi anyway. Following your logic the Turks should be relocated to Central Asia and Turkey given back to Armenians and Greeks and Arabs deported back to Arabia. It's funny how Muslims always want one rule for others and another for themselves.

Apparently Israel is the only country not allowed to control it's own immigration. It's usually Muslims in the West, eg Immigants, ironically criticising this but would never demand the same standards be placed on them going back to Arabia or Pakistan.


No Majority of Israelis are Ashkenazi Jews (AKA Magog). the other part of Israelis are of different non semite origin (Sephardim mainly from Spain and Morocco, and Mede the Magi of Iran who dissimulated as Jews after Jews were crushed in Palestine by the Romans) and Mizrahi, all from India (haplogroup G the original Hindi tribe of the Magi of Iran or Ancient Persia. Some small minority of Israelis or Jews are descendents of Arabs who converted to Judaism but they are barely 8% of all Jews. Even Armenians have 20% Arab origin Haplogroup J1, Kurds are 20% Haplogroup J1 Arabs, Turks are 20% Arabs J1, Pakistan is 15% Arabs J1, Ethiopia 30% J1 of ancient Arab Hyiarites and Sabaean Yemeni Arab tribe, 30% of Chechen and Caucasian mountains are J1 Arabs)
all those people have partial Arab ancestry much more than the jews and they don't claim part of Arab lands, nor they ever want to live in the desert low lands.
Jews should go back to their respective homelands. Every Jew knows where his father and mother came from Costa Rica, Poland, what have you. They can easily tracxe their generations back for ten generations, they know exactly where they come from and where is their home land. 95% of World Jewery have guaranteed homeland 90% in Ukraine and South Russia, and 5% in Spain and Morocco.
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posted on Jul, 16 2014 @ 12:27 AM
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a reply to: Drunkenparrot

He's an interesting fellow. Did you know that he was not elected? In fact when the vote was held for Mufti of Jerusalem, Amin Hussein came in fifth of five dudes - his rhetoric was soundly rejected by the scholars and officials who were doing the voting.

The British simply invalidated the vote that had been held and appointed him anyway. Why? Because at the time of his appointment the British were trying to keep Jews out of Palestine, and they figured a rabid antisemite blowhard would serve their purposes well to rally Palestinians against Jews. However his actions proved too much for even the British to stomach, and they booted him out of the position of Mufti a few years later.

he then became extremely anti-british, and began advocating alliance with the Nazis - interestingly not because of the Nazi's antisemitism (though he would endorse that once he fled to Europe) but because they were the enemies of the British.

He was summarily kicked out of Palestine by the British, fled to Iran (where he got booted out of, again) and smuggled his way to Germany, where he had all the clout of a Kardashian. he had no authority to speak for the Palestinians or Arabs, the units he helped recruit in Albania were some of the most prone to insurrection against the Nazis, and his efforts to point the Germans towards the middle east were constantly waved off.

Essentially everything in Hajj Amin's career was failure - he failed at scholasticism, he failed to win an honest vote for Mufti, he failed to keep the position after being appointed, he failed at keeping his ass in his homeland, he failed at motivating the Germans to his cause, he failed at motivating Palestinians to the German cause, and even the European Muslims he pulled in turned on their superiors with surprising regularity.

Palestinians were not "aligned with the Nazis." Palestine remained solidly under the British for the course of the war - Palestinian grains were supplying the Allies in the eastern Mediterranean, Palestinian men fought as conscripts alongside men from other British holdings in battles in Europe, North Africa, and iraq.

To say "The Palestinians supported Nazis" because one famous jackass ran to Berlin with his tail between his legs is a lot like saying "The Americans support North Korea" because Dennis Rodman keeps going there. it's defamatory and false.
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posted on Jul, 16 2014 @ 12:42 AM
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originally posted by: adnanmuf

originally posted by: HisRoyalJewness

originally posted by: adnanmuf
Palestine belong to the palestinians not to the invadors who came from 120 countries supported by England that occupied Palestine in 1917 and gave Palestine to those invadors. England had no right of doing so, nor the United Nations have no right of giving a nation to other people.

The Invadors a Europpean people from Europe should leave Palestine (Middle East not Europe).
90% of World Jews are Ashkenazi Jews (AKA Europpeans) since Ashkenazi means Skythians (the Caucasian Race who lived in the Caucasus ) and later Europe. see Encyclopedia Brittanica encyclopedia 1910 for the Etymology of Ashkenazi( it is from Skythinas or Skuthi)


Half of Israeli Jews are not Ashkenazi anyway. Following your logic the Turks should be relocated to Central Asia and Turkey given back to Armenians and Greeks and Arabs deported back to Arabia. It's funny how Muslims always want one rule for others and another for themselves.

Apparently Israel is the only country not allowed to control it's own immigration. It's usually Muslims in the West, eg Immigants, ironically criticising this but would never demand the same standards be placed on them going back to Arabia or Pakistan.


No Majority of Israelis are Ashkenazi Jews (AKA Magog). the other part of Israelis are of different non semite origin (Sephardim mainly from Spain and Morocco, and Mede the Magi of Iran who dissimulated as Jews after Jews were crushed in Palestine by the Romans) and Mizrahi, all from India (haplogroup G the original Hindi tribe of the Magi of Iran or Ancient Persia. Some small minority of Israelis or Jews are descendents of Arabs who converted to Judaism but they are barely 8% of all Jews. Even Armenians have 20% Arab origin Haplogroup J1, Kurds are 20% Haplogroup J1 Arabs, Turks are 20% Arabs J1, Pakistan is 15% Arabs J1, Ethiopia 30% J1 of ancient Arab Hyiarites and Sabaean Yemeni Arab tribe, 30% of Chechen and Caucasian mountains are J1 Arabs)
all those people have partial Arab ancestry much more than the jews and they don't claim part of Arab lands, nor they ever want to live in the desert low lands.
Jews should go back to their respective homelands. Every Jew knows where his father and mother came from Costa Rica, Poland, what have you. They can easily tracxe their generations back for ten generations, they know exactly where they come from and where is their home land. 95% of World Jewery have guaranteed homeland 90% in Ukraine and South Russia, and 5% in Spain and Morocco.


Turky was a name imposed on the nation by the victors . There are no turks in Turkey. Armenians name etymology is Aram-Han, ie the Huns who entered Aram. They enetred Turkey in 100 BC and were defeated by the Romans.
Armenians are Huns from north of the Caucasus just like Ashkenazi Jews are from the Caucasus. The Khazar Kingdom and before them the Huns ruled over the other Huns who managed to seep through the Caucasian mountains to the Land of Aram (the land west of the Euphrates all the way to Jordan (Aram being the land of stones, aram meaning stones.) Armenians have a country called Armenia.



posted on Jul, 16 2014 @ 02:03 AM
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originally posted by: adnanmuf

originally posted by: HisRoyalJewness

originally posted by: adnanmuf
Palestine belong to the palestinians not to the invadors who came from 120 countries supported by England that occupied Palestine in 1917 and gave Palestine to those invadors. England had no right of doing so, nor the United Nations have no right of giving a nation to other people.

The Invadors a Europpean people from Europe should leave Palestine (Middle East not Europe).
90% of World Jews are Ashkenazi Jews (AKA Europpeans) since Ashkenazi means Skythians (the Caucasian Race who lived in the Caucasus ) and later Europe. see Encyclopedia Brittanica encyclopedia 1910 for the Etymology of Ashkenazi( it is from Skythinas or Skuthi)


Half of Israeli Jews are not Ashkenazi anyway. Following your logic the Turks should be relocated to Central Asia and Turkey given back to Armenians and Greeks and Arabs deported back to Arabia. It's funny how Muslims always want one rule for others and another for themselves.

Apparently Israel is the only country not allowed to control it's own immigration. It's usually Muslims in the West, eg Immigants, ironically criticising this but would never demand the same standards be placed on them going back to Arabia or Pakistan.


No Majority of Israelis are Ashkenazi Jews (AKA Magog). the other part of Israelis are of different non semite origin (Sephardim mainly from Spain and Morocco, and Mede the Magi of Iran who dissimulated as Jews after Jews were crushed in Palestine by the Romans) and Mizrahi, all from India (haplogroup G the original Hindi tribe of the Magi of Iran or Ancient Persia. Some small minority of Israelis or Jews are descendents of Arabs who converted to Judaism but they are barely 8% of all Jews. Even Armenians have 20% Arab origin Haplogroup J1, Kurds are 20% Haplogroup J1 Arabs, Turks are 20% Arabs J1, Pakistan is 15% Arabs J1, Ethiopia 30% J1 of ancient Arab Hyiarites and Sabaean Yemeni Arab tribe, 30% of Chechen and Caucasian mountains are J1 Arabs)
all those people have partial Arab ancestry much more than the jews and they don't claim part of Arab lands, nor they ever want to live in the desert low lands.
Jews should go back to their respective homelands. Every Jew knows where his father and mother came from Costa Rica, Poland, what have you. They can easily tracxe their generations back for ten generations, they know exactly where they come from and where is their home land. 95% of World Jewery have guaranteed homeland 90% in Ukraine and South Russia, and 5% in Spain and Morocco.


Except you're wrong. J1 is not Arabian;


Haplogroup J1 is a Middle Eastern haplogroup, which probably originated in eastern Anatolia, near Lake Van in central Kurdistan. Eastern Anatolia being the region where goats, sheep and cattle were first domesticated in the Middle East, haplogroup J1 is almost certainly linked to the expansion of pastoralist lifestyle throughout the Middle East and Europe.


www.eupedia.com...

Ashkenazi Jews aren't the majority of Israeli Jews;


The population consists of many ethnic groups, with 61% of Israeli Jews having Mizrahi Jewish ancestry as of 2005


en.wikipedia.org...



posted on Jul, 16 2014 @ 02:05 AM
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originally posted by: TheTengriist
a reply to: Drunkenparrot

He's an interesting fellow. Did you know that he was not elected? In fact when the vote was held for Mufti of Jerusalem, Amin Hussein came in fifth of five dudes - his rhetoric was soundly rejected by the scholars and officials who were doing the voting.

The British simply invalidated the vote that had been held and appointed him anyway. Why? Because at the time of his appointment the British were trying to keep Jews out of Palestine, and they figured a rabid antisemite blowhard would serve their purposes well to rally Palestinians against Jews. However his actions proved too much for even the British to stomach, and they booted him out of the position of Mufti a few years later.

he then became extremely anti-british, and began advocating alliance with the Nazis - interestingly not because of the Nazi's antisemitism (though he would endorse that once he fled to Europe) but because they were the enemies of the British.

He was summarily kicked out of Palestine by the British, fled to Iran (where he got booted out of, again) and smuggled his way to Germany, where he had all the clout of a Kardashian. he had no authority to speak for the Palestinians or Arabs, the units he helped recruit in Albania were some of the most prone to insurrection against the Nazis, and his efforts to point the Germans towards the middle east were constantly waved off.

Essentially everything in Hajj Amin's career was failure - he failed at scholasticism, he failed to win an honest vote for Mufti, he failed to keep the position after being appointed, he failed at keeping his ass in his homeland, he failed at motivating the Germans to his cause, he failed at motivating Palestinians to the German cause, and even the European Muslims he pulled in turned on their superiors with surprising regularity.

Palestinians were not "aligned with the Nazis." Palestine remained solidly under the British for the course of the war - Palestinian grains were supplying the Allies in the eastern Mediterranean, Palestinian men fought as conscripts alongside men from other British holdings in battles in Europe, North Africa, and iraq.

To say "The Palestinians supported Nazis" because one famous jackass ran to Berlin with his tail between his legs is a lot like saying "The Americans support North Korea" because Dennis Rodman keeps going there. it's defamatory and false.


Except unlike Dennis Rodman Husseini was the recognised leader of the Palestinians. Completely false analogy. It would be like Bill Clinton moving to North Korea.



posted on Jul, 16 2014 @ 02:06 AM
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