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originally posted by: Arbitrageur
a reply to: Mary Rose
Blacklight's supposed technology is based on the hydrino which is a state of the hydrogen atom that real physicists are pretty sure doesn't exist. Of course Blacklight is welcome to prove the physicists wrong by delivering an actual product, something they have been failing to do for decades, and they will continue to fail because it's a hoax.
real physicists are pretty sure doesn't exist. Of course Blacklight is welcome to prove the physicists wrong by delivering an actual product, something they have been failing to do for decades, and they will continue to fail because it's a hoax.
originally posted by: hgfbob
a reply to: Arbitrageur
Please go to the 9/11 forum to discuss 9/11
uhm....I asked a 'physics' question.
the TITLE of this thread is..."ask me anything about physics"!
please answer the question...
...tell me how this new kind of LOW TEMP thermal expansion creates 105 vertical feet of global unified acceleration EQUAL to g. within a steel framed building for 1/3 of it's 6.5 second collapse..
[and why is it I always get a reply back..."you're taking it out of context"...yet none of you can show that I am...they just say it....even the rocket scientist.]
originally posted by: Mary Rose
a reply to: KrzYma
Who cares why mainstream science is what it is?
Isn't that just making excuses?
Physics is physics whether it's mainstream or alternative.
Forget the politics.
I already answered this outside the atom as well. When the electron emits a photon, it can be the result of re-emitting some energy the electron has received from other sources such as electric or magnetic fields, or thermal sources. A high energy electron can also give up some of the energy it already has, which is called Bremsstrahlung radiation. See page 12 of the www.haystack.mit.edu... link I mentioned in this post
originally posted by: ImaFungi
a reply to: Arbitrageur
Ok, you used the example of an electron in an atom, but you ignored my main proposition, and I understand about the higgs and mass and I am not really talking or asking about that, thank you if it does relate to my question but the beef and essence of my question is more than that.
Instead of using electron in an atom, lets use electron outside an atom.
1. Real physicists have their PhDs in physics, and publish real peer reviewed papers, unlike Blacklight Power's Mills who doesn't have a doctorate in physics but graduated from medical school, and was caught plagiarizing part of his writing out of textbooks, I suppose to put alongside the crank stuff to try to make it look legitimate. Look at the date on this article from 14 years ago, not much has changed in 14 years; Mills is still not delivering any products 14 years later despite claims he would do so:
originally posted by: Mary Rose
- "Real physicists" are defined as what?
- A hydrino is defined as a new form of energy based on the collapse of the hydrogen atom, correct?
Researchers at the National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA), scientists for the U.S. Navy and a group of investors who have contributed over $25 million to his private company believe in the work of Harvard Medical School graduate Dr. Randell Mills.
However, scientists at the American Physical Society (APS), a trade organization for American physicists, and Harvard say his findings are unfounded.
Further, regarding "The Grand Unified Theory of Classical Physics":
BlackLight Power, Inc. (BLP) of Cranbury, New Jersey is a company founded by Randell L. Mills, who claims to have discovered a new energy source. The purported energy source is based on Mills' assertion that the electron in a hydrogen atom can drop below the lowest energy state known as the ground state. Mills calls the theoretical hydrogen atoms that are in an energy state below ground level, "hydrinos".[1] Mills self-published a closely related book, The Grand Unified Theory of Classical Physics.[4]
The proposed theory is inconsistent with quantum mechanics. Critics say it lacks corroborating scientific evidence, and is a relic of cold fusion. Philip Warren Anderson said he is sure it's a "fraud", and Steven Chu called it "extremely unlikely". In 2009 IEEE Spectrum magazine characterized it as a "loser" technology because "Most experts don't believe such lower states exist, and they say the experiments don’t present convincing evidence".[5] BlackLight has announced several times that it was about to deliver commercial products based on Mill's theories but has not delivered a working product.
"Unlike most schemes for free energy, the hydrino process of Randy Mills is not without ample theory.[48] Mills has written a 1000 page tome, entitled, "The Grand Unified Theory of Classical Quantum Mechanics", that takes the reader all the way from hydrinos to antigravity.[49] Fortunately, Aaron Barth [...] has taken upon himself to look through it, checking for accuracy. Barth is a post doctoral researcher at the Harvard–Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics, and holds a PhD in Astronomy, 1998, from UC Berkeley. What he found initially were mathematical blunders and unjustified assumptions. To his surprise, however, portions of the book seemed well organized. These, it now turns out, were lifted verbatim from various texts. This has been the object of a great deal of discussion from Mills' Hydrino Study Group. "Mills seems not to understand what the fuss is all about." – Park
Here's one way you can tell if Randall Mill's physics is real physics or not: If he actually delivers a real commercial product consistent with his claims. He's got the funding so what's stopping him?
originally posted by: Mary Rose
a reply to: KrzYma
Who cares why mainstream science is what it is?
Isn't that just making excuses?
Physics is physics whether it's mainstream or alternative.
I'll repeat myself one more time and this is the last time:
originally posted by: hgfbob
if you had SPECIFICS in asking physics questions, ya should have posted that right off the bat.
You don't appear to want answers or discussion, and you apparently haven't even read or comprehended the answers you already got to these same questions you posted in the 9/11 forum that you're re-posting here.
originally posted by: Arbitrageur
I said you could ask, but I didn't promise you'd get an answer, and if you weren't satisfied with the answers you got in the 9/11 forum you wouldn't be satisfied with the answers you got here either so I really don't see the point in asking.
This thread IMO is to prove the correctness of the standard model
You don't appear to want answers or discussion
Re-posting the same things in multiple forums is a form of spam
originally posted by: VirusGuard
Laws like matter (as we understand it) need to be created and they don't just happen by mistake and our DNS which is compputer code (read up if you don't get this yet) could not evolve by accident.
There's a paper which explores this idea, but one constraint is that the universe would have to be finite and we don't know for certain that it is. If the universe is infinite then attributing it to a computer simulation is problematic:
originally posted by: VirusGuard
Can any laws of physics not be simulated in a computer and if so then whats to say that we are not inside a compter simulation/game ourselves ?
The authors talk about ways we might try to detect if we are part of a simulation. I admit "The Matrix" was a fascinating movie, but even in the movie there were glitches in the simulation. The idea seems far fetched to me but I'm not opposed to those authors looking for the evidence they discuss to try to prove or disprove the concept, but without evidence, it just seems like a hollywood movie idea to me.
In this work, we have taken seriously the possibility that our universe is a numerical simulation. In particular, we have explored a number of observables that may reveal the underlying structure of a simulation performed with a rigid hyper-cubic space-time grid....
assuming that the universe is finite and therefore the resources of potential simulators are finite, then a volume containing a simulation will be finite and a lattice spacing must be non-zero, and therefore in principle there always remains the possibility for the simulated to discover the simulators.
I didn't know matter was a law. Have you read the thread? Not too long ago I cited a source saying it wasn't even a fundamental concept in physics today, though the idea has a historical context.
Laws like matter (as we understand it) need to be created and they don't just happen by mistake and our DNS which is compputer code (read up if you don't get this yet) could not evolve by accident.
There's no question about physics in here, but of course anybody not asleep through all the Snowden leaks knows the spying agencies got out of control. I don't think they are running the universe though, just a chunk of the pale blue dot they reside on.
On the subject PC's are not personal and due to windows they have become little more than remote terminals for microsoft who only grew big because of the finance from the NSA and the cartel suport from all the other major players that are all CIA/NSA owned.
By the way I can say "Elvis lives" (read up if you don't get this yet) and if you search that you should get millions of hits, so you can read all about it. That doesn't mean Elvis is alive. In physics, and for science in general, claims are held to a higher standard than whether the topic returns something in an internet search, in order to gain credibility. Or as someone once said, "don't believe everything you read on the internet".
In physics, and for science in general,
originally posted by: hgfbob
a reply to: Arbitrageur
By the way I can say "Elvis lives" (read up if you don't get this yet) and if you search that you should get millions of hits, so you can read all about it. That doesn't mean Elvis is alive. In physics, and for science in general, claims are held to a higher standard than whether the topic returns something in an internet search, in order to gain credibility. Or as someone once said, "don't believe everything you read on the internet".
....[shakes head].........
In physics, and for science in general,
there is an agreed consensus....now tell me how someone can claim a change in the agreed science and not have to validate....verify....peer review.....
tell me how thermal expansion occurring at low temps REMOVES the required resistance before 1.74 seconds of the collapse including....
105 vertical feet of LOAD BEARING continuous vertical support columns....
8 floors of truss assemblies with carrier beams...
lateral, cross, and diagonal bracing throughout...
tens of thousands of bolts and welds...
interior partitions.....
office contents...
utilities....
as must occur to allow the found FFA to occur.......how does thermal expansion at low temps do all that work.
What has this got to do with anything we are talking about? Thermal expansion changes volume of an object and those can create stress on parts engineers have to plan around this constantly.
buildings are built so they can expand
100 degree increase in temperature puts serious stress on a building. This is why bridges and buildings are built so they can expand take it beyond that an they collapse like a stack of cards.
computer simulation and the laws of physics in my mind are just like the CPU rules and instruction sets inside a PC.
Peer review is a process of self-regulation by a profession or a process of evaluation involving qualified individuals within the relevant field. Peer review methods are employed to maintain standards, improve performance and provide credibility. In academia peer review is often used to determine an academic paper's suitability for publication.
"the phenomenon that we saw on 9/11 that brought this particular building down was really thermal expansion, which occurs at lower temperatures."
originally posted by: Nochzwei
There is certainly an unexplained science/tech involved with 9/11 scenario. I don't think any1 can pinpoint it
a reply to: hgfbob
"the phenomenon that we saw on 9/11 that brought this particular building down was really thermal expansion, which occurs at lower temperatures."