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Mexico made deal to send more illegal aliens to the U.S.

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posted on Jul, 12 2014 @ 07:37 PM
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originally posted by: ezwip
Well they taught us to feel special, to have national pride, and to wave our flags in school. Then they flip it up 180 on us and you know what everyone deserves that dream. We're going to give the entire world a chance to come over and share it with you. Sounds like a great idea right? Right!

When our current enforcers come close to the point that there is friction accepting their orders, well there will be people to replace them. As long as you have people to replace whoever quits then it's business as usual.


I like to remind people that a great many Irish, many who've even gone on into law enforcement, are here as a result of grandparents or great grandparents, that overstayed their visa.

They were forgiving and grandfathered in. Nobody went to jail. Nobody was ridden out on a rail.

I think the New Colossus stands at the base of the Statue of Liberty, inviting people to our shores and I'm sure all these kids were on their way to immigration. They want to be part of the process and join the greatest country in the world.* Does that make them criminals? What is entering the country legally anyway? By plane? Some people are escaping tyrannical regimes and cannot manage paperwork across their boarder. They have to do it here. Some of these people WALK here (like the young boy who recently died of thirst trying to help his sick mom in South America) Some of them deserve special consideration. All of them deserve respect. They are all human.



posted on Jul, 12 2014 @ 10:39 PM
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originally posted by: GokuVsSuperman0
a reply to: Cygnis
"To bring USA to it's knees"?...it's tens of thousands of child refugees, how in god's name are they going to bring down the USA. And they are refugees, not illegal aliens.


These 'refugees' were told to say they are refugees. There was an interview where 200 illegals were asked why they are coming. They said their countries were telling them that if they came now to the US, they would be taken care of and not deported. Most of these 'children' are border line adults. There are also many men and women. There are pics and vids everywhere and you will see mostly adult men, or near adults.



posted on Jul, 12 2014 @ 10:46 PM
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a reply to: Loveaduck


Some of these people WALK here (like the young boy who recently died of thirst trying to help his sick mom in South America) Some of them deserve special consideration. All of them deserve respect. They are all human.


There are many deaths of these people trying to get here. Some do indeed deserve special attention and all people should be respected. The problem is that their Country are responsible for these people, just as ours should be responsible for ours. People are anti-illegal for many reasons, one being that illegals are receiving help that our own people are not receiving. There are citizens here who die because they can't afford life saving medicines. There are people here who are homeless and hungry. There are people here who live in extremely dangerous neighborhoods and they can't afford to go anywhere else. There have been millions and millions of illegals coming here and there is no end in sight.

If we can't care for our own Countrymen, how can we care for anyone else?



posted on Jul, 12 2014 @ 11:09 PM
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The flocks swarming to this country now are not being invited by the open arms of liberty, but by a devious administration bent on the exploitation of any means to fulfill his agenda of disarming liberty. Because of this deception and by how those arriving are being sequestered within special prison style facilities away from prying eyes, proves again that this administration is committing quite a few crimes in the process. I wonder what project name they have given to this operation, and classified in order to hide a monstrous example of illegal activities by this disaster of a human being, as well as a sham president. "Operation hide and seek" sounds about right.
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posted on Jul, 12 2014 @ 11:27 PM
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a reply to: NoCorruptionAllowed

Operation Hide And Seek. What a great name!



posted on Jul, 12 2014 @ 11:56 PM
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a reply to: NoCorruptionAllowed



The flocks swarming to this country now are not being invited by the open arms of liberty, but by a devious administration bent on the exploitation of any means to fulfill his agenda of disarming liberty.


One has to ask....who is really to blame for the current administration being in power? Or any administration for that matter.

Us. We are to blame for what has occurred or will occur in the future.

The real deception is that us Americans have not realized that we have become so disconnected from what it took to make America great that we have become apathetic and lazy. Our country is in such a world of hurt because of that that we no longer welcome others to join in our prosperity......we demonize them and tell them to "get off our lawn".

We have become a nation of immigrants that is hostile to immigrants. We are no longer a nation of morals or compassion. We are a nation of war-mongers and ideologues.

So you can blame an administration if you like, but the reality is that we are just trying to "hide" from the truth and "seek" out a scapegoat.


Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame,
With conquering limbs astride from land to land; Here at our sea-washed,
sunset gates shall stand A mighty woman with a torch,
whose flame Is the imprisoned lightning,
and her name Mother of Exiles.
From her beacon-hand Glows world-wide welcome;
her mild eyes command The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame.
"Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she With silent lips.
"Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless,
tempest-tost to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"



posted on Jul, 13 2014 @ 12:23 AM
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a reply to: sheepslayer247


Our country is in such a world of hurt because of that that we no longer welcome others to join in our prosperity......we demonize them and tell them to "get off our lawn".


So, obviously, it does not matter to you that we are trillions of dollars in debt, we have desperately poor and homeless and hungry people? You completely ignored the plight of the American poor in favor of helping people from another Country. That is sad.



posted on Jul, 13 2014 @ 12:24 AM
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a reply to: sheepslayer247

We should just take down that statue with the way every one is reacting to this "crisis"

Well put sheep, wish I could star more



posted on Jul, 13 2014 @ 12:30 AM
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a reply to: sheepslayer247
What a cop out!!!

You have officially fallen back to the most basic default B.S. position anyone in a discussion could take...

Gee,.. in the end it is OUR fault Obama encouraged the central american countries to flood our border with their desperate gang kids... we should ALL take the blame for his decisions...

What a load of crap!!!



posted on Jul, 13 2014 @ 12:32 AM
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a reply to: Sremmos80

That statue was never intended for millions upon millions of people to come here ahead of those coming here legally and you know that. You know that with open borders, you will get the gang members, diseased, the murderers, the pedophiles, rapists and thieves along with the good folk. You know this. yet still you want to welcome them with open arms. Obviously you have never lost a family member, nothing negative has happened to you personally involving illegals so if it happens to others it's ok.

This is not the Country it once was.



posted on Jul, 13 2014 @ 12:35 AM
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originally posted by: coastlinekid
a reply to: sheepslayer247
What a cop out!!!

You have officially fallen back to the most basic default B.S. position anyone in a discussion could take...

Gee,.. in the end it is OUR fault Obama encouraged the central american countries to flood our border with their desperate gang kids... we should ALL take the blame for his decisions...

What a load of crap!!!



Well said. It boggles my mind how others view this situation. We all know it is not OUR fault!



posted on Jul, 13 2014 @ 01:00 AM
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a reply to: Night Star

Obviously?

Where did you get the idea that I do not care about those things? Oh, you're assuming. You know what they say about that.

Anyway, it is much easier to blame Obama, Bush or whomever for our problems instead of taking responsibility for the action/inaction of those that are in charge of keeping the Republic intact. You and I.

Ben Franklin once said that we have a republic......if we can keep it.

We have failed to keep it and blaming immigrants does not negate the fact that you and I are to blame for the state of hurt this nation is in.

Some may say it's a cop-out. That's fine.

I am still willing to take responsibility for my apathy or lack of involvement and will not blame an administration or group of people for trying to find a better life for themselves.

It seems to me that some people do not care about what America was, is or should be. They want America to be what suits them and damn everything else.

Pathetic.
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posted on Jul, 13 2014 @ 01:38 AM
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Anyway, it is much easier to blame Obama, Bush or whomever for our problems instead of taking responsibility for the action/inaction of those that are in charge of keeping the Republic intact. You and I.


For many. many years people have been fighting against illegal immigration and are still fighting.



posted on Jul, 13 2014 @ 01:40 AM
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a reply to: Night Star

But have they been fighting for what it means to be an American?

That's the real question.



posted on Jul, 13 2014 @ 01:44 AM
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a reply to: sheepslayer247


It seems to me that some people do not care about what America was, is or should be. They want America to be what suits them and damn everything else.


America is losing its sovereignty and we care about that. America has millions of un-employed people and illegals taking jobs. We care about that. Millions upon millions have waltzed through the front door without a background or health check and cutting in line of those who are coming here legally. We care about that. We care about how illegals are catered to while we have homeless and hungry people. What kind of Country are we to place illegal foreigners above our own? What we want is our Country back, a Country who protects its people.



posted on Jul, 13 2014 @ 01:45 AM
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originally posted by: sheepslayer247
a reply to: Night Star

But have they been fighting for what it means to be an American?

That's the real question.


Yes...a melting pot of LEGAL immigrants who respect our Country, its laws and language.



posted on Jul, 13 2014 @ 01:49 AM
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originally posted by: sheepslayer247
a reply to: Night Star

But have they been fighting for what it means to be an American?

That's the real question.


Does being an American mean that we should allow all the gang members, murderers, pedophiles and thieves just waltz across the border or over stay a visa? That is what has happened through the years. Too many lives have been lost because of illegal immigrants, numerous arrests and deportations and our laws not being enforced. That is not what we are about!



posted on Jul, 13 2014 @ 01:52 AM
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originally posted by: Night Star

originally posted by: sheepslayer247
a reply to: Night Star

But have they been fighting for what it means to be an American?

That's the real question.


Yes...a melting pot of LEGAL immigrants who respect our Country, its laws and language.


Legal immigrants? Well, I would say you need to do a bit of research on our history. It was anything but "legal". And language?

What language is that? Cherokee or Ojibwe? If not...you're not speaking the language.....illegal immigrant.



posted on Jul, 13 2014 @ 01:53 AM
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originally posted by: Night Star

originally posted by: sheepslayer247
a reply to: Night Star

But have they been fighting for what it means to be an American?

That's the real question.


Does being an American mean that we should allow all the gang members, murderers, pedophiles and thieves just waltz across the border or over stay a visa? That is what has happened through the years. Too many lives have been lost because of illegal immigrants, numerous arrests and deportations and our laws not being enforced. That is not what we are about!


A completely emotional and irrelevant response. I don't fall for that sort of propaganda.

Sounds like something a liberal would say.
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posted on Jul, 13 2014 @ 01:56 AM
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originally posted by: sheepslayer247

originally posted by: Night Star

originally posted by: sheepslayer247
a reply to: Night Star

But have they been fighting for what it means to be an American?

That's the real question.


Yes...a melting pot of LEGAL immigrants who respect our Country, its laws and language.


Legal immigrants? Well, I would say you need to do a bit of research on our history. It was anything but "legal". And language?

What language is that? Cherokee or Ojibwe? If not...you're not speaking the language.....illegal immigrant.


I may not be speaking the language of my Native American ancestors, but I wasn't alive over 200 years ago to influence what happened, none of us were.

It is 2014, we have immigration laws and for a very good reason.




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