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originally posted by: peck420
originally posted by: bobs_uruncle
But you know, at least they seem to be trying to do something. What are you doing?
I specialize in building envelopes.
Through the fun and twisty path we call life, I have ended up in recovering lost projects...primarily resource extraction.
My favourite pass-time, however, is in my roots, and I continue to develop ways to incorporate traditional methods of generating power into the building envelopes, as well as the unused spaces between a building's support structure and the corresponding envelope.
Current project...turning an unused attic into a very large, low temp stirling engine. Target = 2 kw continuous production from a 18m x 9m x 2m unused space, while improving the thermal efficiency of the building (which reduces energy consumption).
originally posted by: oblvion
originally posted by: bobs_uruncle
originally posted by: oblvion
originally posted by: bobs_uruncle
originally posted by: oblvion
a reply to: AnarchoCapitalist
Op, there is no such device or will there be in the near future that can produce free energy. It violates the laws of thermodynamics. It is just another overunity device.
Yes I believe we should be trying to figure it out, yes I believe it will one day be possible, but no, I dont believe this device is anything other than another scam.
Just because on video it shows X doesnt mean X has ever or can or will ever occur. I watched a guy named Hancock pick up a car and fly with it on video, should I take that at face value as well?
Any over-unity device would naturally violate the laws of thermodynamics, so it can't be "just another overunity device" as you stated. There are shortcuts however allowed by physical law, some of them rather dangerous, others not so much.
Let's say you wanted to ask someone a question on a planet circling Barnard's Star, would you have a conversation that took 24 years to get an answer back or would you rather compress space and take advantage of a "shortcut?" Instead of a signal traveling 12 light years there and another 12 back, through entanglement you could make the distances infinitely small.
The same types of shortcuts apply to energy, you don't have to violate any laws to change ground states and release usable energy, you just have to understand how to create the new ground state and capture the energy. As I said though, there are dangers because changing grounds states, removing electrons and protons, etc. can create a singularity. I don't think that would happen with the "mechanical design" in the video, but as we progress someone else will "fall" across this feature of quantum entanglement.
Cheers - Dave
It is "just another over unity device". As in, it is another BS machine claiming to have achieved over unity, because it claims to make more power than you put into it.
We have no worries of creating a singularity, because even if we did, it would either fall right through the earth out the other side, or it would evaporate in micro seconds, this is of course not mentioning that with the mass of even an atom it wouldnt be able to suck anything else in anyways.
As far as folding space time. We have known it was possible for a while, we are not even close to doing it. In 100 years or more maybe we could fold a message the 12 light years through entanglement, but we dont know how to entangle an atom 12 light years away and arent even close at all. So this is irrelevant.
What is the net energy of one gram of lead, do you know? If through some process I entangle the subatomic particles in the lead and reach a new ground state that involves only 80% of the particles, how much energy is converted from the 20% mass. That isn't overunity, that is an effective way to extract energy, but only 20% efficient.
Concerning singularities, if one were produced on the surface of the Earth, the earth would be reduced to a Schwarzschild radius of about 9cm in less than 5 hours. A singularity would not fall through the Earth and out the other side LOL. As far as black hole evaporation, Hawking reversed and retracted that theory a long time ago. On folding space-time, that has been proven operational even in close proximity (where power requirements are higher) since 1994, so not too terribly irrelevant ;-)
Back to the device in question that is the subject of the OP, maybe it's real, maybe it's not, maybe they have an errant idea concerning what they are trying to produce, maybe it's a scam (although I doubt that due to the number of people involved)? But you know, at least they seem to be trying to do something. What are you doing?
Cheers - Dave
Let us be clear here.
Not once has a particle been taken from its curent energy state and placed on a lower energy state through the processes your describing.
originally posted by: oblvion
a reply to: AnarchoCapitalist
Op, there is no such device or will there be in the near future that can produce free energy. It violates the laws of thermodynamics. It is just another overunity device.
Yes I believe we should be trying to figure it out, yes I believe it will one day be possible, but no, I dont believe this device is anything other than another scam.
Just because on video it shows X doesnt mean X has ever or can or will ever occur. I watched a guy named Hancock pick up a car and fly with it on video, should I take that at face value as well?
Actually it was only people with agendas, like religious sects, cults and other heads of power that used to push the "earth is flat" theory. The Earth was known to be round by scientists and philosophers since the roman times and likely predating even then.
originally posted by: AnarchoCapitalist
I'm going to have a good time watching belief systems implode as these generators get rolled out to production.
It's going to be the modern day equivalent of watching Midevil religious zealots deal with the fact the world is actually round instead of flat.
originally posted by: Nochzwei
Astounding. A real deal from a Christian Ministry watch
So the QEG is toast
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originally posted by: oblvion
a reply to: AnarchoCapitalist
Op, there is no such device or will there be in the near future that can produce free energy. It violates the laws of thermodynamics. It is just another overunity device.
originally posted by: Nochzwei
I would have thought a Christian Ministry would not lie or scam others.
I would have thought a Christian Ministry would not lie or scam others.
It's going to be the modern day equivalent of watching Midevil religious zealots
originally posted by: JohnPhoenix
originally posted by: oblvion
a reply to: AnarchoCapitalist
Op, there is no such device or will there be in the near future that can produce free energy. It violates the laws of thermodynamics. It is just another overunity device.
How do you KNOW there is nothing out there that " violates the laws of thermodynamics" when a Law is ONLY a generalization based on a set observations in a set of certain circumstances?
You Dont. You, Phage, Einstein, Sagan or no one else can state this can never happen. It is Scientifically SOUND that under other conditions perhaps ones in which we have not yet observed many things CAN and DO violate the "laws" ( and i use the term very loosely) of Thermodynamics.
To believe otherwise is Not science but dogma, which makes a nonsensical religion out of Science.
originally posted by: AnarchoCapitalist
A looped system that powers itself is probably only a few weeks or months away at this point.
I predicted back in February that 2014 would be the year free (or nearly free) energy would become available to the public. Given the progress at Blacklight Power, and the progress being made by the various QEG teams, it looks like that prediction will arrive right on schedule.
originally posted by: Astyanax
a reply to: mikefougnie
It isn't real. The OP has been crying wolf on this subject ever since I joined ATS. Lots of claims, not an atom of substance to date.