My Chemical God

originally posted by: deadeyedick
a reply to: InhaleExhale I agree with your post but fail to see how duality come to that mix you present. Your love is not lost.

You presented the duality I just pointed out the other side and how everything can have mirror image. the image reflected will be left to right instead of right to left.


You presented non belief and belief in GOD, that was the duality I recognized

You pointed out that non belief could be because of such and such and I just tried to mirror what you said.

There will be a truth spoken that wont have another side wont have duality wont have a mirror image to oppose it.

When its spoken all will hear, belief wont play a part anymore, everyone is convinced eventually.

a reply to: deadeyedick

Bingo. Seems like hell on earth to me. HOWEVER it is not unending their is one that can save you out of the vicious cycle. He can wipe away all of the debt that is owed to his seemingly corrupt father.

Or just stop doing business with the family altogether.

originally posted by: AfterInfinity
a reply to: deadeyedick

Bingo. Seems like hell on earth to me. HOWEVER it is not unending their is one that can save you out of the vicious cycle. He can wipe away all of the debt that is owed to his seemingly corrupt father.

Or just stop doing business with the family altogether.

That does seem like a choice but the family owns the house and has locked all the doors so to speak. It would seem that a more wise choice would be to recognize this and continue to put all the pieces together while forming an idea of how your own house would be when the doors are open. It would be a matter of submitting and saying ok i see the beauty and the flaws and here is another way that may work. That is after you have made your way through the maze of understanding all. However i just do not see how when someone denies all that is around them they will be able to pass through the door.

a reply to: deadeyedick

That does seem like a choice but the family owns the house and has locked all the doors so to speak. It would seem that a more wise choice would be to recognize this and continue to put all the pieces together while forming an idea of how your own house would be when the doors are open. It would be a matter of submitting and saying ok i see the beauty and the flaws and here is another way that may work. That is after you have made your way through the maze of understanding all. However i just do not see how when someone denies all that is around them they will be able to pass through the door.

...Huh? I'm assuming by "house", you mean reality. Naw, pretty sure this reality operates independently of your beliefs. And mine. And everyone else's.

originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
a reply to: deadeyedick



So what kind of second chance is releasing chemicals in the brain to promote disbelief? This is what god is doing in your opinion. How is injecting someone with heroine every few days helping them to get sober? In the same way, how is releasing "unbelief" chemicals helping to get an unbeliever to repent and avoid hell, which is infinitely worse than heroine?

i never said that there would be help but that they would have a second chance. My view is that that second chance would be to go through suffering in order to grow. It seems that it only gets harder to pass the test each time. Why would GOD let someone who commits major sin come back into a second chance into a role that is one of the seemingly preferred lives here on earth when others have earned that role.I am saying that all aspects of a human can be controlled by GOD through chemicals but it is used to serve the good of the whole for the most part. I am also saying that anything i say will be disagreed with in some form by some unless the heart is changed and that could be done by way of chemicals.

originally posted by: deadeyedick

originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
a reply to: deadeyedick



So what kind of second chance is releasing chemicals in the brain to promote disbelief? This is what god is doing in your opinion. How is injecting someone with heroine every few days helping them to get sober? In the same way, how is releasing "unbelief" chemicals helping to get an unbeliever to repent and avoid hell, which is infinitely worse than heroine?

i never said that there would be help but that they would have a second chance. My view is that that second chance would be to go through suffering in order to grow. It seems that it only gets harder to pass the test each time. Why would GOD let someone who commits major sin come back into a second chance into a role that is one of the seemingly preferred lives here on earth when others have earned that role.I am saying that all aspects of a human can be controlled by GOD through chemicals but it is used to serve the good of the whole for the most part. I am also saying that anything i say will be disagreed with in some form by some unless the heart is changed and that could be done by way of chemicals.

So not only does he inject you with heroine, he also beats you and throws you in the gutter to starve, fully expecting you to battle the poison in your veins until you've recovered enough strength to come crawling back and begging for mercy. Figuratively speaking. If you fail to, then it's your loss, not his.

Wow.

a reply to: AfterInfinity What makes that a loss. One needs to believe in your spirit in order to see that the physical suffering has a purpose. Have you ever thought that maybe there other places you would rather be? In order to get there you would need to die at some point. Givin that my leaps are true then it could be possible that people we know die because they are ready to move on and do not wish to be here in this place of suffering even if it means leaving loved ones behind in order to go prepare a new place for those to come later. If the spirit is real then there is a communication gap between the flesh and spirit.

My belief was that long ago, before the universe, there was an entity whose energy was so climatic and potent that it caused sparks. But... along came the moment wherein he farted and created a static spark the resulted in the big bang . So.... yes.... chemically.

originally posted by: deadeyedick
I say that your non belief in GOD is just a chemical response givin by GOD to delude you further into non belief because of your unrepentence.

Looks like you are getting into a heap of trouble with this, bud.

It's not that God is punishing people with chemicals. It's that God, as coincidentia oppositorum, contains within itself all archetypes of the collective unconscious.

Including the archetype of the trickster.

"The so-called civilized man has forgotten the trickster. He remembers him only figuratively and metaphorically, when, irritated by his own ineptitude, he speaks of fate playing tricks on him or of things being bewitched. He never suspects that his own hidden and apparently harmless shadow has qualities whose dangerousness exceeds his wildest dreams." -Carl Jung

"Coyote was going along..."

a reply to: deadeyedick

What makes that a loss. One needs to believe in your spirit in order to see that the physical suffering has a purpose. Have you ever thought that maybe there other places you would rather be?

Like the Bahamas? Absolutely.

In order to get there you would need to die at some point.

Or just take a plane.

Givin that my leaps are true then it could be possible that people we know die because they are ready to move on and do not wish to be here in this place of suffering even if it means leaving loved ones behind in order to go prepare a new place for those to come later. If the spirit is real then there is a communication gap between the flesh and spirit.

"Given that my leaps are true" Woah. You lost me there. What leaps, and how are they true?

lol i mean leaps of logic. I was not refering to places on earth but the unknown and like i said you would have to believe in the spirit first to see a whole other place of existance without the sin and law.

a reply to: AfterInfinity

But just because science may be able to explain how something happens doesn't mean it will ever explain why.

Science is very good at explaining how ice floats, but it sort of fails at explaining why.

God designed us of his own substance: there is nothing outside of God. You are God, the mind denying existence of God is god, and the chemical is god. Chemical is simply a name for a part of god, identified by the human mind.

a reply to: BlueMule Agreed. I never ment that only GOD can cause those chemical reactions in us. We are influenced by two sides but the suffering and punishment is real. It may be a test or growth but the trixter or as i call him the Joker is always around in this place.

a reply to: deadeyedick

Anyone who has a fixed, rigid, fundamentalist, myopic, culture-bound concept of "God", whether it leads to belief or disbelief, is vulnerable to the trickster part of God. Even the pious. The ultimate mystery of Being is beyond all categories of thought, all concepts, all religions. That is what the trickster teaches us the hard way. The only way to know is to un-know, hence the Cloud of Unknowing.

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: AfterInfinity

But just because science may be able to explain how something happens doesn't mean it will ever explain why.

Science is very good at explaining how ice floats, but it sort of fails at explaining why.

The how is the why.

a reply to: BlueMule LOL just another poke at funamentalist. The truth is that everyone is subject to delusion. You do not have to fit into someones list of people they do not like or respect to be decieved. I would have to say that right now everyone alive is being decieved in some way regardless of there personal confidence.

a reply to: ketsuko

Science is very good at explaining how ice floats, but it sort of fails at explaining why.

Like most things that float, ice floats because it is less dense than liquid water. Ice is about 9% less dense. When ice forms, it takes up about 9% more space than it did as a liquid. Thus, a 1 liter container of ice weighs less than a 1 liter container of liquid water, and the lighter material floats to the top.
Why Does Ice Float?
www.units.miamioh.edu/dragonfly/snow/icefloat.shtml

It does fine at explaining why.

OP:

Can you explain how it is that we have 'receptors' in our bodies for different chemicals? Or why those chemicals exist in nature, and humans have figured out how to trigger their 'receptors' using the 'stimulus' of outside resources?

Answer from a Deist:
that we have those receptors, and there are substances that stimulate those receptors and when they do, produce pleasurable results, it indicates that "GOD" made us this way, just like he made the plants/activities/urges that stimulate them. And the intellect to figure it out.

Or, if you like: Ben Franklin
"[Substances that activate these receptors are] proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy."

a reply to: deadeyedick

LOL just another poke at funamentalist.

Dick! I think you just coined a new word, unwittingly!

I am proud to say I'm a funamentalist. Good Gawd, do you EVER get tired of being so sour and dour and negative? Try having some fun with what God gave us to have fun with.



EDIT: Oh. Wait. I know: "fun" now = "burn in hell" later. Right? Did I get it right?
nm then.

Also, I've been wondering what the ISIS fanatics' questions are to the people they're slaughtering...does anyone know what those "questions" are? The ones which, depending on whatever you answer, mean you keep your head, or lose it?