Hobby Lobby wins Supreme Court case, limits the ACA contraception mandate

a reply to: FlyersFan

The IUD causes fertilized eggs not to adhere to the uterus wall. That's abortion.

No it isn't, not according the American Medical Association and American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists. These methods PREVENT pregnancy.

The biggest horror that this ruling has created is that now, if a woman wants a specific type of birth control not offered by Hobby Lobby, then they have to buy it themselves.

And people are soiling themselves over this ruling.

lolz

a reply to: dawnstar

Hey, I'm with you on this!

a reply to: neo96
there is no way for you to know just what that "burden" demands from any one individual so you really can't judge can you???

relying solely on the "natural" process led to many deaths in childbirth!

originally posted by: beezzer
The biggest horror that this ruling has created is that now, if a woman wants a specific type of birth control not offered by Hobby Lobby, then they have to buy it themselves.

And people are soiling themselves over this ruling.

lolz

That's what happens in the age of entitlement.

a reply to: olaru12

We don't necessarily want them shut down, but we don't see why our tax dollars need to subsidize them. Have you investigated how much money they make ... aside from the tax dollars?

originally posted by: windword
a reply to: FlyersFan

The IUD causes fertilized eggs not to adhere to the uterus wall. That's abortion.

No it isn't, not according the American Medical Association and American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists. These methods PREVENT pregnancy.

FF is right. They are technically abortificants. They don't STOP you from getting pregnant. They do stop, in most cases, the continuation of the pregnancy.

Des

a reply to: amazing

I don't believe the Bible addresses contraceptives, so what exactly are you accusing me of? And what in the world does that have to do with the correlation between contraceptives and women's health?

a reply to: beezzer

Nope. They just want different people in charge. They don't care that Someone has authority over others only that what they believe in and who they like are the ones with the power.

originally posted by: dawnstar
a reply to: windword

???
what about the husband who feels one more kid will drive him over the financial edge??
or the wife that just doesn't want another kid to chase after??
how many of yous would be happy if your family consisted of 5 or 6 kids?? How many of yas could afford it???

I guess I would ask how I managed to have my four children and stop after that.... without getting butthurt that someone else wasn't paying for contraceptives?

originally posted by: dawnstar
a reply to: neo96
there is no way for you to know just what that "burden" demands from any one individual so you really can't judge can you???

relying solely on the "natural" process led to many deaths in childbirth!

Yeah will there are millions of people who will never take a breathe of air, or do anything that us living people do.

Hell they wouldn't know how 'awesome' the ACA is.

Hell they wouldn't know the enlightening knowledge ATS creates for consumption.

Why ?

Because people uses ARTIFICIAL means to interfere with a natural process.

Relying on artificial means and DRUGS that have shown their epic short sightedness is leading to senseless death right now.

And that isn't even talking about birth control drugs.

a reply to: Destinyone

Wrong. These methods can prevent implantation, that's true. But there can be no pregnancy before implantation. Therefore, these particular methods do not cause abortion.

originally posted by: Bone75
a reply to: amazing

I don't believe the Bible addresses contraceptives, so what exactly are you accusing me of? And what in the world does that have to do with the correlation between contraceptives and women's health?

Hobby lobby was citing religion as a reason for denying this basic health care tenant. If not religion, then why are you against contraceptives for women?

a reply to: seeker1963

No it's because it's applicable. Government can't tell you what to do in your own private life but your boss can. So now that pretty much everything in the US is cooperate (closely held at that) in order to be employed individuals are at the mercy of their employers religious beliefs.

originally posted by: Bone75
I don't believe the Bible addresses contraceptives,

Onanism. It's old testament stuff. (google it if you like) And 'thou shalt not kill'. that applies to the abortificants like the morning after pill and the IUD. They DO allow for sperm to meet egg and then flush the newly conceived child.

originally posted by: Kali74

I'm not a Progressive.

You walk like one, you talk like one, you think like one.

Therefore.......

originally posted by: Kali74
Businesses do have rights just not the same rights as residences. Businesses fall under public commodity laws. We've been over this before I don't feel indulgent at the moment. You can cheer all you want for theocracy, I just hope I don't see you crying when it affects you... and it will.

SO, private property be damned.

No wonder we are so screwed up.

originally posted by: neo96
Because people uses ARTIFICIAL means to interfere with a natural process.

Dying from cancer is a natural process. Are you against chemotherapy and radiation treatments as well?

This is a good ruling, no one taxpaying should be paying for abortions
or birth control... I think even handing out free condoms is BS..

I love sex, but if you can't afford condoms,
birth control pills(or other female contraceptives)
or in the worst case scenario an abortion you have
should not be having sex PERIOD..

I don't see how making people pay for their own sexual activities
is a problem?

originally posted by: Kali74
a reply to: beezzer

Nope. They just want different people in charge. They don't care that Someone has authority over others only that what they believe in and who they like are the ones with the power.

Bull.

Go get birth control.

Get any kind you like.

Just don't expect the company to pay for it.

(OMG! Personal responsibility!)

a reply to: neo96

Because people uses ARTIFICIAL means to interfere with a natural process.

Natural things like Polio, Rubella, Cancer.....?