Study Finds Monsanto’s GM Corn Nutritionally Dead, Highly Toxic

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
well there is only one thing for it ...since the 3main skeptics are "grimpachi,ignorant ape,and void hawk" are saying basically that GM food must be fine for consumption i vote the 3 of them under strict control have to eat nothing but GM food for a month...much the same way in which "supersize me" was....we will create our own study with bloodtests before during and after....

as for my take on GM foods i wouldnt feed them to my dog

Hilarious .. here is some ignorancekillinginfo.

www.cracked.com...

The supersize me documentary was fake.

whats funny is your attempt to change the subject...nice one

a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

It's not my fault you refused to reply to my on topic post is it? Here is my earlier post. Care to respond this time?

This is an old report that was thoroughly destroyed by actual scientists.

“Even though I strongly support labeling, I’m skeptical of this study,” said Marion Nestle, professor in the Department of Nutrition, Food Studies and Public Health at New York University. “It’s weirdly complicated and unclear on key issues: what the controls were fed, relative rates of tumors, why no dose relationship, what the mechanism might be. I can’t think of a biological reason why GMO corn should do this.”

Mark Tester, a research professor for the Australian Centre for Plant Functional Genomics at the University of Adelaide noted that the findings raised the question of why no previous studies have flagged similar concerns. “If the effects are as big as purported, and if the work really is relevant to humans, why aren’t the North Americans dropping like flies? GM has been in the food chain for over a decade over there—and longevity continues to increase inexorably,

www.forbes.com...

No new nails in the coffin. Oh and I hate GMO corn, but I hate misleading information more.

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

It's not my fault you refused to reply to my on topic post is it? Here is my earlier post. Care to respond this time?

This is an old report that was thoroughly destroyed by actual scientists.

“Even though I strongly support labeling, I’m skeptical of this study,” said Marion Nestle, professor in the Department of Nutrition, Food Studies and Public Health at New York University. “It’s weirdly complicated and unclear on key issues: what the controls were fed, relative rates of tumors, why no dose relationship, what the mechanism might be. I can’t think of a biological reason why GMO corn should do this.”

Mark Tester, a research professor for the Australian Centre for Plant Functional Genomics at the University of Adelaide noted that the findings raised the question of why no previous studies have flagged similar concerns. “If the effects are as big as purported, and if the work really is relevant to humans, why aren’t the North Americans dropping like flies? GM has been in the food chain for over a decade over there—and longevity continues to increase inexorably,

www.forbes.com...

No new nails in the coffin. Oh and I hate GMO corn, but I hate misleading information more.

ok i hear you.....shoddy articles and misleading information is a dis-service and causes confusion.....still at the end of the day GM is a disaster and will haunt humanity into the future

a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

oh dear there is so much wrong with your post

first - its alpha hawk - not void hawk

2 where have I " basically claimed GM food is safe " ??? all I have done SO FAR is point out the pseudo scientific irrationality and lies of the anti GMO mob


as for your "study " - it is fatally flawed from the start - first as there is no control group [ unless you are prepared to eat an organic strain of the GMO speciese too ?????

but here is a list of current GMO crops :

GM Crops List
•Alfalfa (Medicago sativa)
•Argentine Canola (Brassica napus)
•Bean (Phaseolus vulgaris)
•Carnation (Dianthus caryophyllus)
•Chicory (Cichorium intybus)
•Cotton (Gossypium hirsutum L.)
•Creeping Bentgrass (Agrostis stolonifera)
•Eggplant (Solanum melongena)
•Flax (Linum usitatissumum L.)
•Maize (Zea mays L.)
•Melon (Cucumis melo)
•Papaya (Carica papaya)
•Petunia (Petunia hybrida)
•Plum (Prunus domestica)
•Polish canola (Brassica rapa)
•Poplar (Populus sp.)
•Potato (Solanum tuberosum L.)
•Rice (Oryza sativa L.)
•Rose (Rosa hybrida)
•Soybean (Glycine max L.)
•Squash (Cucurbita pepo)
•Sugar Beet (Beta vulgaris)
•Sugarcane (Saccharum sp)
•Sweet pepper (Capsicum annuum)
•Tobacco (Nicotiana tabacum L.)
•Tomato (Lycopersicon esculentum)
•Wheat (Triticum aestivum)

source

there is not the basis for a balanced diet there - wether GM or non GM

so I for one will tell you - shove your silly little " study " up your arse

a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

I am definitely not a fan of GM. It's not that I dislike the idea of GM, it's what they are doing I don't like. Putting pesticides meant to be washed off inside the product just is not a great idea.

a reply to: ignorant_ape

there is not the basis for a balanced diet there - wether GM or non GM so I for one will tell you - shove your silly little " study " up your arse

whoa....didnt mean to hit a nerve there princess...carry on

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

I am definitely not a fan of GM. It's not that I dislike the idea of GM, it's what they are doing I don't like. Putting pesticides meant to be washed off inside the product just is not a great idea.

well a plant that came become resistant to the active ingredient that poisons it really cannot be good,especially when we then ingest that

a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

no nerve hit - just pointing out your irrationality - now are you prepared to only eat organic strains of the foods I listed ?

GMO Corn Killing Animals :


www.youtube.com...


Squirrel eats organic corn but NOT GMO corn

www.youtube.com...

originally posted by: ignorant_ape
a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

no nerve hit - just pointing out your irrationality - now are you prepared to only eat organic strains of the foods I listed ?

i eat many of those foods ...mostly i grow them myself without of herbicides or pesticides (when i use pesticides i make them myself from rhubarb leaves)......many crops have been modified,i am not disputing that,i have a problem with crops that are designed not to seed and become resistant to a poison (in this case a very nasty one called glyphosate).. i do not like eating poison....

when you say to me "only eat organic strains" do you actually understand what it is you are talking about ?

a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

sigh - I understand what I am talking about - you clearly don't

but to spell it out [ I will type slowly ]

would you eat ONLY the foods on the list I gave - that's it your entire diet must come from that list

get it now ???

a reply to: Grimpachi Hi Grimpachi, I know what you mean. We go to Texas once in a while and have some of that good ole Texas style chili and boy oh boy, it is good but can cause bodily fireworks so to speak, LOL. Have a great weekend and enjoy a splendiferous meal!

originally posted by: galadofwarthethird
a reply to: Harte
Wow dude i see now, what your problem is. You do not seem to understand words. Here let me try again. Not that I expect anything different, but purely for the lol factor.
SNIP

Sorry, no. You stated that pigs and dogs won't touch it.

You are the one that seems not to know how pigs are raised. On many farms, there's no "garbage" for them to choose to eat - the places are run like factories.

Apparently, pigs are "touching" GMO corn because they grow and then go to market.

So, please come up with some other argument. The "pigs won't touch it" argument was, as I showed, completely fabricated inside your little brain.

Harte

The wheat of today is NOT the same as the wheat our grandparents used to eat. Going into a store, ever notice how products are often mentioning being gluten free? That is because a lot of folks cannot tolerate the new improved GMO wheat. Folks that say trusting our "gut" reactions isn't enough...well, enjoy...and make sure you stock up on plenty of toilet paper while your body tries to process all the GMO corn and wheat and soy. Anyone that doesn't believe that GMOs are harmful are in need of toilet paper anyhow.

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

I am definitely not a fan of GM. It's not that I dislike the idea of GM, it's what they are doing I don't like. Putting pesticides meant to be washed off inside the product just is not a great idea.

Which GMO plants have pesticides in them?

Harte

[I've spent ten minutes, I found basically nothing, but would love for someone else to find something]



Here's an avenue worth exloring.

"In 2009, the American Academy of Environmental Medicine called for a moratorium on genetically modified foods, and said that long-term independent studies must be conducted, stating: "Several animal studies indicate serious health risks associated with GM food, including infertility, immune problems, accelerated aging, insulin regulation, and changes in major organs and the gastrointestinal system. …There is more than a casual association between GM foods and adverse health effects. There is causation…"

source:articles.mercola.com...

originally posted by: robbo961
Here's an avenue worth exloring.

"In 2009, the American Academy of Environmental Medicine called for a moratorium on genetically modified foods, and said that long-term independent studies must be conducted, stating: "Several animal studies indicate serious health risks associated with GM food, including infertility, immune problems, accelerated aging, insulin regulation, and changes in major organs and the gastrointestinal system. …There is more than a casual association between GM foods and adverse health effects. There is causation…"

source:articles.mercola.com...

I think it may be biased as well. From your link:

For example, kidney problems have been demonstrated in 19 different animal-feeding studies, and kidney diseases are on the rise in the US. Could there be a connection? Smith and I both believe this to be the case.

(my emphasis)

But note that kidney disease was rising quickly in the US at least a decade before the first GMO food was released (tomato - 1994 - "Flavr Savr".)
Here's a chart: link

After GMO foods were released, the rise in kidney disease actually leveled off.

IOW, the rate stopped increasing, eventually hardly increasing at all, as GMO foods flooded the market in the U.S.

It seems that the reality greatly contradicts at least that one claim in the report you linked. It's the only claim in the report I looked into.

Harte

a reply to: Harte

After GMO foods were released, the rise in kidney disease actually leveled off.

IOW, the rate stopped increasing, eventually hardly increasing at all, as GMO foods flooded the market in the U.S.

Proper misinterpretation and application of that data appears to indicate that GMOs may actually prevent kidney disease.

originally posted by: DenyObfuscation
a reply to: Harte

After GMO foods were released, the rise in kidney disease actually leveled off.

IOW, the rate stopped increasing, eventually hardly increasing at all, as GMO foods flooded the market in the U.S.

Proper misinterpretation and application of that data appears to indicate that GMOs may actually prevent kidney disease.

I wouldn't go that far.

I believe it does indicate the absence of any correlation though.

Harte

a reply to: purplemer

There is a really easy way to resolve this. All the board members on Monsanto should go on a 100 percent GMO diet for 5 years. Then if they are still in the picture of health, we can start to believe them. In other words PUT YOUR MONEY WHERE YOUR MOUTH IS. But of course this will never happen.