Your Under wired bra is killing you literally!!!

I came across this article and was totally shocked.
It appears, that large lingerie company's, the media, and governments, and yes even breast CANCER charities are hiding this from the world this is absolutely disgusting, my wires have been ditched and i will only wear sports bras from now on *uck fashion and the wonder bra please read this and spread far and wide
decryptedmatrix.com...

NO WONDER I WAS ALWAYS SAYING MY BRA IS KILLING ME, NOW I KNOW WHY *ASTARDS

Has any valid research been done that has shown a link to bras and breast cancer?

Writing a book about a theory as if it's fact seems to be the knew way for people to make some easy, fast, big money. Valid research often proves the ideas to be nothing more than the latest fad, and the author certainly didn't have anything to lose.

S&F

The studies make perfect sense. Interesting to see if how many will put health in front of fashion.

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a reply to: nugget1

Perhaps you should have read the article! It lists the research papers including one from China. The links are there for a reason.

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Thanks for sharing this is kind of scary for me to read! I am a bigger busted woman and i do sometimes find myself wearing tighter bras at times to secure them or just because i can never get my size! Its very hard when your a smaller dress size with a bigger bra cup but when i was in my teens i didnt really think about later in life and always wore tigher bras i am really hoping it doesnt come back on me later in life..

originally posted by: pheonix358
S&F

The studies make perfect sense. Interesting to see if how many will put health in front of fashion.

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So many women do! Im guilty of putting health infront of fashion myself i think back now and facepalm myself its just not worth it..

Oops.. (comment censored to avoid t&c breach rather than risk humour being taken wrong way .. )

Interesting .. maybe in name of good health can bring back bra burning and going bra-less .. the 60's had its moments ..

Think better exit this thread before get in trouble ..

It appears there isn't any increased risk from wearing bras or underwired bras.

www.breastcancer.org...

Underwire bras do not cause breast cancer. Only one scientific study has looked at the link between wearing a bra and breast cancer. There was no real difference in risk between women who wore a bra and women who didn't wear a bra. Being overweight does increase breast cancer risk though, and women who are overweight are more likely to have larger breasts and wear a bra. Women who don't wear bras are more likely to be at a healthy weight. This difference in weight is probably why this myth continues to circulate.

More pseudo science attempting to link research to support a worldview. One study apparently reference, (but not read, clearly) can be found here...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...

From the OP's link..

They (the ones who understand these things, but not listed of cited) understand how constriction of the lymphatic drainage from the breasts caused by tight bras can result in tissue toxification, cysts, pain, and ultimately, cancer.

No question that a (badly fitting) bra can cause pain, but no evidence that it leads to cancer is there? No. Certainly nothing presented.

You need to ask yourself why someone writes an article which also says...

Boycott breast cancer charities: Send you’re your bra instead of money!

Why research is selectively and misleadingly referenced and why the anti charity stance?

Now, if you actually read the article it promotes a website "killerculture". This website's well put together and quite persuasive, but full of pseudo rubbish and no evidence to back up myriad claims. Apart from trying to invent a new term "bra cancer" they are also trying to sell a book. I guess the argument is "don't give to charities, give to us"!

End note... My wife says "If your bra is killing you then go and get properly measured and buy one that fits".

Regards

a reply to: PlanetxIsComing

NO WONDER I WAS ALWAYS SAYING MY BRA IS KILLING ME, NOW I KNOW WHY *ASTARDS

Unfortunately, it's not the bras that are killing you but instead, your big breasts.

Now, if anyone were to actually look at the studies, instead of, take whoever it is at their clearly biased word, you'd see the studies are not talking about bras causing cancer.

So instead of you being mad at the cancer association for misleading you, you can be mad at the article writer for duping you, misleading you, and causing you ill-informed anger.

STUDY 1:

ra cup size and handedness were studied as possible risk factors for breast cancer.

Premenopausal women who do not wear bras had half the risk of breast cancer compared with bra users (P about 0.09), possibly because they are thinner and likely to have smaller breasts. Among bra users, larger cup size was associated with an increased risk of breast cancer (P about 0.026), although the association was found only among postmenopausal women and was accounted for, in part, by obesity. These data suggest that bra cup size (and conceivably mammary gland size) may be a risk factor for breast cancer.

In fact they do not go as far to say as, "bras are giving cancer", they merely say they found woman with bigger bosoms had higher rates. It makes sense, more breast tissue, more likely the chance of cancer in said tissue.

"STUDY" 2:

I use "study" loosely. A book called dressed to kill is not a credible source nor verifiable as a source claiming to prove bras cause cancer. By all means you can buy the book and then go through its sources, but I believe if it was really about informing people the studies would be listed.

"STUDY" 3:

Again, another publication by the above authors, not published in any scientific journal, but infotainment.

STUDY 4:

RESULTS: In premenopausal women, prophylactic, family history of breast cancer, bad mood, bad life incidence and work load were the risk factors, and breast hyperplasia history, breast tissue examination history, regular exercise and sleeping without bra were the protective factors. In postmenopausal women, family history of breast cancer was the risk factor, and breast hyperplasia history and mood adjustment were the protective factors.

CONCLUSION:
The risk and protective factors of breast cancer differ between premenopausal and postmenopausal women, which highlights the importance of using different risk models to screen the high-risk populations.

In fact sleeping without a bra is listed as a protective measure, but not a risk factor.

This study is actually saying our bad mood (maybe the one you have from reading the article) is more of a risk factor than a bra.

STDUY 5:

Spanish study concluding that wearing a bra too often, or incorrectly left girls more susceptible to breast diseases (diseases, no specifics in cancers)

Dermatological injuries by frequency were found by physical examination of the study population were: swelling, dermatitis, changes in skin color, signs of phlogosis in the area; no association between these changes and a type of fabric is specified, since a very close relationship between the fabrics that were used most frequently (lycra / cotton) was found.

Sustained and inappropriate use of bra is an important predictor of emergence and development of breast diseases conditioned by time of use and specific characteristics for the garment accessories and fabric.

General Purpose: To determine the incidence of breast conditions generated by sustainable use and incorrect selection of bras in patients attending Mastology HUAL consultation during the period from March to June 2010.

Results: 49% of the patients comprised between 33-52 years; 76% of which use half cup, full cup 62%, had breast conditions; 73% of the bra using whales showed abnormalities; 75% of the people using it more than 12 hours presented mammary lesions.

Conclusion: The incorrect selection of bra given by the use of whales, fillers and accessories that enhance the breast and combined with the prolonged use of it results in the alteration of the female breast health.

Im not sure what a bra whale is, but I think it has to do with something about stuffing the bra or something.




Don't you guys get tired of being tricked into getting all angsty?

I stopped using deodorants some 30 years ago because of their aluminium content.....bad bad stuff.

As to bras.....never worn one of them either. Even if I did need to wear one, I would never ever wear one that is underwired. Not because of the reason the OP has linked to, but because they mess with the body's electrical circuitry.
Seen it many, many a time when I've done kinesiology/Touch for Health on clients. Doing the muscular tests, not getting them to sort out, ask them if they are wearing an underwired bra, they remove it, hey presto muscle tests balance. A lot of women I know have stopped wearing underwires bras for the very reason that they have experienced for themselves how the wiring messes with their own circuitry.

Rainbows
Jane

I wish I had the boobies to be able to use a Bra.
I wouldn't need to go outside or anything just stay in and play all day long with them .

originally posted by: boncho
"STUDY" 2:
I use "study" loosely. A book called dressed to kill is not a credible source nor verifiable as a source claiming to prove bras cause cancer. By all means you can buy the book and then go through its sources, but I believe if it was really about informing people the studies would be listed.

Ha ha, this is the book that the originators of the article are trying to sell. The internet is good for so many things, including peddling rubbish! Don't give to charities who do untold GOOD, but instead, give to us! Extraordinary.

Regards

originally posted by: Expat888
Oops.. (comment censored to avoid t&c breach rather than risk humour being taken wrong way .. )

Interesting .. maybe in name of good health can bring back bra burning and going bra-less .. the 60's had its moments ..

Think better exit this thread before get in trouble ..

Yeah I pretty much am staying out of this one, the temptation is way too high.

Maybe this isn't the same one I saw a month or two ago, but according to that one, it wasn't the bra so much as it was prolonged wearing of it that was the problem. If that's the case, I'm fine. I only wear my bras as long as I have to and as soon as I'm home, they generally come off, but I'm a smaller breasted woman. I can see where it would uncomfortable to go braless if you're a larger breasted woman.

a reply to: PlanetxIsComing

It seems to me that someone somewhere is trying to promote 'smaller' breasts sizes!

I've been seeing it a lot lately in Films, TV and Commercials... lots of women with small size breasts!

Bring back the Bosom is what I say.

originally posted by: paraphi

originally posted by: boncho
"STUDY" 2:
I use "study" loosely. A book called dressed to kill is not a credible source nor verifiable as a source claiming to prove bras cause cancer. By all means you can buy the book and then go through its sources, but I believe if it was really about informing people the studies would be listed.

Ha ha, this is the book that the originators of the article are trying to sell. The internet is good for so many things, including peddling rubbish! Don't give to charities who do untold GOOD, but instead, give to us! Extraordinary.

Regards

Yeah, tell me about it. "Watch out poor innocent lamb, these evil money mongering corporations and charities want to fluff their bank account while killing you! Please buy our book where we expose their lies with our lies!"

We are not liable for the information we present as being true or accurate. All our finger pointing of lying is backed by mutiple sources of our lies and manipulation of facts which is what other people are doing to you so you may as well believe ours because we do not have as much money as those people. Money is evil, boogey woogey woogey.

Lymphatic drainage massage is being studied to breast cancer patients and there are some good results of it.
Study

You might ask what this has to do with bras.. quite a lot as bras actually blocks the normal fluid circulation in the breast areas, it can cause cysts and sore areas. Massage helps fluids to circulation again when our bodies can deal them out of our systems and cysts and hard areas inside the breasts gets smaller and vanish.

There are a lot massage instructions in youtube too.. just search "lympha massage breasts" and try how they work.

If we would need bras ( other than fashion reasons) we would have born with them..

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a reply to: dollukka
That is a very dangerous road to go down. I'm a Clinical Aromatherapist, I also teach and have been practicing for over 20 years. One of the primary contra-indications to massage (I do LDM) is never ever do any sort of massage on a cancer patient unless they have been given the all clear. Because studies have shown, especially with LDM that it can, and invariably does, spread the cancer further through the body.

Rainbows
Jane

a reply to: angelchemuel

They are studying it after patients have gone through surgery.. not the ones who haven´t.
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That is two years ago.. there should be new information of it. What they do say is that Lymphatic massage prevents breast cancer.