Would you like to see God? Would you like to know God?

originally posted by: One_Love_One_GOD

originally posted by: EviLCHiMP

originally posted by: One_Love_One_GOD
There's only one way to God, and that's through the Lord, that's it, nothing else.

This is true but the implications of those words are lost upon deaf ears and blind eyes. The only way to God is God, if one is to be with God one must understand their connection with God. If one is connected with God one is inevitably a part of God. If one is a part of God one is inevitably God. If God perceives God then the fundamental meaning, the absolute root of existence is understood, which is God experiencing God.

We no longer possess the ability to directly relate to God, our minds in their current state can not comprehend him, this is expressed in the multitudes of religions, addictions, obsessions, distractions and many other bottomless unfulfilling endeavors many of us partake in.

Ultimately we are all in a state of mourning, we have a hole deep inside us because we lost that connection with God, it take's time, commitment and will power but in the end it is all that matters.

The system that we are all born into is setup to distract us from this cold and terrible truth from the get go.

This is not true my friend for my existence is proof that it is still possible! Those who do not comprehend the efforts necessary in meditation and self-retrospection will say it is not possible, but truly anything is possible if one is capable of ultimate renunciation, the renunciation of the existence of an individual. Truly you are already amongst God, the awareness that comprehends the eyes comprehending these words is God Himself! It is true, assuredly! You will come to know this and you will be SO HAPPY when you do! Trust my words, or don't trust my words, existence will lead you back to Him and on that day you will revel in joy, you will dance, you will cry, you will hug everyone that you see. These words are from experience, "I" have lived that moment and that's what drives this communication right now. "I" cannot be stopped because "I" am living the embodiment of I Am. Nobody will believe me, only those who taste the nectar can understand the nectar.

Listen to these words, comprehend them, THINK about them. What is this thread asking for? What purpose could this serve towards evil? What purpose could this serve to anyone but yourself? These words are communicating to you that there is an end to suffering, that there is a means to finding your connection with Creation and with the Creator! These words are to empower you to overcome the idea that your thoughts, that your opinions, that your conceptions are really YOU. They are not you! Look at the world around you! Look at your friends and family! How can a murderer go on to become a priest?! How can you have overcome the pain of your first love breaking your heart? Because the thoughts that you believed were true shaped you at that time, but once you let go of those thoughts you were set free from that suffering! You know this to be true!

The problem is people recycle one set of thoughts for another in an endless cycle of believing that thoughts in general are you! They are not! How can you truly prove this to yourself? You can sit down in a chair for 10 minutes a day and just relax, once you relax search deep down inside your being, find where your thoughts come from. The closer you get to them the louder they become until you bring your awareness so close as to actualize that the thoughts entering you are not YOUR DOING. When you see this for yourself you cannot help but comprehend that they are not you for at that point you have truly realized there separateness! It cannot be otherwise!

If you desire to only read my words and dismiss them without even attempting to search your inner self to validate that they are true then that is your choice! You are deciding for yourself that you wish to continue suffering, that is as it is, nothing more nothing less! Once you find your thoughts you will see that they are truly empty and will come to discover afterwards that your mind remains clear more and more as you practice meditation more and more. With continued disciplined you will eventually realize that you don't get mad at things you used to, you don't notice negative things like you used to. You will realize the world is empty of good and evil, positive and negative and that all of those old conceptions of such were empty beliefs that only served to cause yourself suffering. Do NOT take my word for it, FIND IT OUT YOURSELF.

Laziness will never find Truth. Practice and dedication are the only means to understanding what I am conveying to you. It's so simple yet immeasurably difficult. Think these words to be delusional but understand that you are delusional if you don't attempt to discern the truth of them for yourselves. These words will not reach everyone, but for the few they do reach it will change their entire existence forever.

God and I know each other. We decided to see other people.

a reply to: intrepid

Your words only serve to harm yourself.

originally posted by: EviLCHiMP
a reply to: intrepid

Your words only serve to harm yourself.

Yeah, and so do His.

a reply to: intrepid

That is true but the difference is He knows what you do not.

originally posted by: EviLCHiMP
a reply to: intrepid

That is true but the difference is He knows what you do not.

Too bad he doesn't share that info then. I had beyond a religious relationship with him once, just one on faith(He didn't reciprocate in kind). One way relationships don't work for me. A test you say? Screw the lifelong "tests". Hell, I'm God with my fish. The water is well tended. Food plentiful. I don't think they question me when I go away for the weekend. I'm a better god than God.

originally posted by: intrepid

originally posted by: EviLCHiMP
a reply to: intrepid

That is true but the difference is He knows what you do not.

Too bad he doesn't share that info then. I had beyond a religious relationship with him once, just one on faith(He didn't reciprocate in kind). One way relationships don't work for me. A test you say? Screw the lifelong "tests". Hell, I'm God with my fish. The water is well tended. Food plentiful. I don't think they question me when I go away for the weekend. I'm a better god than God.

How can you expect to find your connection with God by just merely forcing yourself to believe in Him? That path in itself is setting yourself up for a lot of pain, that is why there is so many hypocrites in religion and spirituality. They want the benefits of God but they do not want the consequences. The benefits are known, the consequences are suffering. Any idea that one holds in believing they can live an undisciplined lifestyle and still reach Nirvana is an idea of foolishness. Creation is the embodiment of sacrifice, God is sacrificing Himself to know Himself and that is exactly what one must do with their life. You must sacrifice everything, you must give up on every desire that your perception can perceive, even the desire for love, understanding, friendship and procreation because if one is truly God experiencing Himself then anything other than God is an illusion. Does this not make sense? If you believe that life on the physical plane should be perfect you miss the entire point of this existence, to deny temptation for something Greater. It is the ultimate sacrifice and with the ultimate sacrifice comes the ultimate Nirvana, the end of delusion and the eradication of separateness and the suffering it causes.

One can cling to their children, one can cling to their family, one can cling to money, one can cling to sex, but to cling to the idea that they will not perish is the utmost foolishness. The only permanence is God, He will be when the entire universe will not. It is true. Truly it burdens me to see your suffering, truly my being wishes it could show you God, that it could show you how to conceive God, but it can't, that's just being realistic. If you do not desire to find Him in this lifetime assuredly you will find Him in another, no being is a lost cause, there are just shortcuts to Nirvana and that all these words are attempting to communicate. It's your choice because you are apart of the Whole and you have the Free Will to decide when you are ready to sacrifice experiencing creation. My being just wont be satisfied until everyone realizes their divinity and brings that Divine Love into the physical world.

You may not agree that God exists but assuredly you can agree all you truly want is to be happy. That's all anyone could ever want, that's all we have to strive for on this Earth.

At first before reading thread had thought .. here we go again another trying to convert everyone .

Instead after reading it find otherwise .. well done and good job of putting it in terms people can understand rather than the usual mumbo-jumbo that one hears ..
though its but a small step on the path to enlightenment its a good starting place for people ..

originally posted by: One_Love_One_GOD
There's only one way to God, and that's through the Lord, that's it, nothing else.

I would agree with you, but being able to accept that requires first that you get past yourself to accept Him. That's part of what this thread is about.

originally posted by: Expat888
At first before reading thread had thought .. here we go again another trying to convert everyone .

Instead after reading it find otherwise .. well done and good job of putting it in terms people can understand rather than the usual mumbo-jumbo that one hears ..
though its but a small step on the path to enlightenment its a good starting place for people ..

Truly you are on the correct path as your perception is clear, blessings to you my dear brother! The lessons are given in appropriate steps according to the level of comprehension of the individual seeker, if one desires further understanding all they must do is ask and they will receive but it must be understood that if ones comprehension is not at the level of the teaching it may not be received correctly, this is why many are confused by these words and receive them in confusion. There is a vast amount of knowledge to be communicated, is there anything you would like to understand further? If ones mind is receptive as is Expats, please feel free to question anything and everything to your hearts content. In servitude to the end of suffering the information is available for all to comprehend and it will be communicated until it is understood, the only requisite is ones desire to practice the necessary disciplines to achieve what is promised. One must be ready to renounce their perceptions of being an individual, undoubtedly this requires the end of all earthly desires.

To all who receive these words please allow me to ease your doubts. There are false teachers amongst you, some seek your worship, others seek to use you to feed there false self, but truly I tell you to trust in your own cognitive abilities of discernment, you will know truth by its ability to be experienced personally and directly by the processes that can be explained thoroughly, incorrect teachings bear no substance and cannot be verified by practice. If one were to inquire of the necessary practices and disciplines to truly know God one must be cognizant of the implications, but if the processes are faithfully followed one may achieve complete enlightenment within 3 years. This timespan is relative to one who is just beginning the path, it can be much quicker if one has already cultivated progress in any or all of the 3 fundamental precepts, proper concentration, proper wisdom, and proper ethical conduct.

originally posted by: ketsuko

originally posted by: One_Love_One_GOD
There's only one way to God, and that's through the Lord, that's it, nothing else.

I would agree with you, but being able to accept that requires first that you get past yourself to accept Him. That's part of what this thread is about.

Another correct perception, blessings to you my dear brother!

originally posted by: ketsuko

originally posted by: One_Love_One_GOD
There's only one way to God, and that's through the Lord, that's it, nothing else.

I would agree with you, but being able to accept that requires first that you get past yourself to accept Him. That's part of what this thread is about.

Absolutely, you have to let go of your ego and humble yourself, this is definitely the first step, pride it seems is the biggest stumbling block.

EviLChimp, i think meditation can be a good thing, BUT not as a way to God, although it can seem like a direct way to God it really isn't. Meditation facilitates physical sense of well being, it makes you feel lighter, to work towards God is a relationship, it's two sided and takes actual graft, hard work. So i run, i meditate and i eat well because it facilitates getting closer to the Lord, your body is a temple for the Holy Spirit at the end of the day, but ultimately it takes far more than those things to "find" God.

Thank you EvilChimp for your thread. Some food for thoughts!
I have not a good command of English, so sorry if I can't convey the meaning of my thoughts correctly.
I am a part of God, I understand that. And the meaning of my life is to recognize (realise) God inside myself.
But tell me, please, when you have come to that point enlightenment and you feel the unity with God, what next?
You feel that you are (have become) God and what is next to it? Do you have to stop and enjoy the music or you start a long process of creating your own world and having the sparks of your essence try to understand the unity with you as their own God?
Hope, I have expressed myself more or less clearly.
And several other questions.
Who are Jesus and Yahweh to you? Do you consider them your Gods? And if not, what is the name of the God you are coming to?

originally posted by: Locksley
Thank you EvilChimp for your thread. Some food for thoughts!
I have not a good command of English, so sorry if I can't convey the meaning of my thoughts correctly.
I am a part of God, I understand that. And the meaning of my life is to recognize (realise) God inside myself.
But tell me, please, when you have come to that point enlightenment and you feel the unity with God, what next?
You feel that you are (have become) God and what is next to it? Do you have to stop and enjoy the music or you start a long process of creating your own world and having the sparks of your essence try to understand the unity with you as their own God?
Hope, I have expressed myself more or less clearly.
And several other questions.
Who are Jesus and Yahweh to you? Do you consider them your Gods? And if not, what is the name of the God you are coming to?

You are very welcome my brother!

When you have come to the point of enlightenment life does not change, suffering still exists, hatred still exists, the world itself still exists. Do not allow the delusion that life will change because of enlightenment for it is not so. The fundamental nature of enlightenment is to truly understand and to truly comprehend what you really are, what existence really is as it exists in the present time, compared to what existence could or should be when compared to the fundamental nature of reality. Enlightenment is crystal clear perception.

A man approaches you in public and demands you give him your money, your typical response is to defend yourself because you falsely believe there is a "you" to defend, this is delusion. A man approaches an enlightened you and demands all of your money, your enlightened mind would perceive that this man is demanding money because he has falsely believed that money is important to his being, therefore the lack of money has caused this man so much suffering that his false perception has led him to stealing from you. The enlightened you would then understand this, and out of sheer compassion from knowing this suffering man is merely another form of your Self who has forgotten his Divine Essence you would not only give him your wallet but you would offer him your shoes and your coat as well. This is the opposite of delusion, it is correct thinking by assessment and understanding.

If you believe you are only a part of God you are still looking at it from the delusion of separateness, you are only seeing a piece of the puzzle and it is essential to understanding that you learn to see the entire puzzle. Consider this, if someone were to cut off your ear and say "This is your body" it would not be so for the ear is only a part you, it is a piece of the whole that makes you a Human, a mere piece of your Being. Therefore it is correct to presume that if you see yourself as only a part of God you are in reality claiming that your ear is your entire body. Is it not so? If you are a part of God you are therefore a portion of the Whole, a portion of the All, therefore you are God because you are of Him.

When you truly comprehend your divinity the life you once grasped, the idea that there is something of physical value to cling on to in this illusionary reality will not exist in your awareness anymore, such as when you mistake a stick in the road for a snake, you react as if it is a snake but once you realize it was only a stick you laugh that you reacted so foolishly. This is the same as when one realizes they are of God, they are His awareness experiencing Himself, one cannot act foolishly anymore because they have experienced the truth and have come to know the Ultimate Truth.

It is more important that you ask yourself who Jesus and Yahweh are to you. My being has come to know Jesus and Yahweh are none other than Muhammad and Allah, Buddha and Brahma, even Michael Jackson and Madonna. They are the same beings, you may understand this if you would merely meditate on emptiness.

You must ask yourself, why is a name for God so important to you? Can you not see that by projecting an importance on the name of God that you are clinging to a physical conception of God, a delusion? That which is unmanifest cannot be comprehended by the manifest, this is why a true understanding of emptiness, which is the unmanifest, is absolutely essential. When that understanding is accumulated one then, by knowing the essence of emptiness, understands the unmanifest as well as the manifest. Do not fool yourself into thinking otherwise. If matter...if physical reality itself started from empty space such as the idea of the big bang, and by observing that all physical matter decays and disperses like a wave upon the ocean, then isn't it true that all of physical matter will inevitably decay and disperse into the emptiness it was before it existed in form?

The unformed has taken on form to experience the unformed, all that has resulted from that initial cause is what we are experiencing now. All possibilities of a being experiencing it's beingness are played on this stage called the universe, the actor has taken an infinite number of roles and most roles have forgotten their script.

Those like me are here to remind you what that script is.

originally posted by: One_Love_One_GOD

originally posted by: ketsuko

originally posted by: One_Love_One_GOD
There's only one way to God, and that's through the Lord, that's it, nothing else.

I would agree with you, but being able to accept that requires first that you get past yourself to accept Him. That's part of what this thread is about.

Absolutely, you have to let go of your ego and humble yourself, this is definitely the first step, pride it seems is the biggest stumbling block.

EviLChimp, i think meditation can be a good thing, BUT not as a way to God, although it can seem like a direct way to God it really isn't. Meditation facilitates physical sense of well being, it makes you feel lighter, to work towards God is a relationship, it's two sided and takes actual graft, hard work. So i run, i meditate and i eat well because it facilitates getting closer to the Lord, your body is a temple for the Holy Spirit at the end of the day, but ultimately it takes far more than those things to "find" God.

If you believe that meditation cannot be used as a way to God then surely you are only using meditation to serve your delusion of self. If you seek to use a Divine Tool such as Meditation for selfish means, such as making your physical body more suitable to serve your Ego then you assuredly have not understood the fundamental purpose of it's practice. You claim there is no way to God by meditation, then by what way is there a way to God? You cannot answer this truly for their is no other method! My being has discovered this, my being can truthfully explain in elaborate detail how to exactly find God. You can claim that meditation does not work but you fail to see that it simply isn't working for you because your practice is incorrect. You must correct your mind before you can correctly think with it.

Do not fool yourself into thinking otherwise, suffering is inevitable if you do not question your delusions.

originally posted by: EviLCHiMP

originally posted by: One_Love_One_GOD

originally posted by: ketsuko

originally posted by: One_Love_One_GOD
There's only one way to God, and that's through the Lord, that's it, nothing else.

I would agree with you, but being able to accept that requires first that you get past yourself to accept Him. That's part of what this thread is about.

Absolutely, you have to let go of your ego and humble yourself, this is definitely the first step, pride it seems is the biggest stumbling block.

EviLChimp, i think meditation can be a good thing, BUT not as a way to God, although it can seem like a direct way to God it really isn't. Meditation facilitates physical sense of well being, it makes you feel lighter, to work towards God is a relationship, it's two sided and takes actual graft, hard work. So i run, i meditate and i eat well because it facilitates getting closer to the Lord, your body is a temple for the Holy Spirit at the end of the day, but ultimately it takes far more than those things to "find" God.

If you believe that meditation cannot be used as a way to God then surely you are only using meditation to serve your delusion of self. If you seek to use a Divine Tool such as Meditation for selfish means, such as making your physical body more suitable to serve your Ego then you assuredly have not understood the fundamental purpose of it's practice. You claim there is no way to God by meditation, then by what way is there a way to God? You cannot answer this truly for their is no other method! My being has discovered this, my being can truthfully explain in elaborate detail how to exactly find God. You can claim that meditation does not work but you fail to see that it simply isn't working for you because your practice is incorrect. You must correct your mind before you can correctly think with it.

Do not fool yourself into thinking otherwise, suffering is inevitable if you do not question your delusions.

I have no ego, i gave it away.

I do not meditate for selfish means, just the opposite in fact, it merely facilitates my relationship with God but ultimately does not bring me closer to God in it-self. Meditation simply clears the mind of worldly things and breaks the distractions of modern life of which there are many (one might argue that most of which have the sole purpose of distraction) giving one more capacity to endeavor in the things that matter.

Like i said, you will not find god in the multitudes of religions, you will not find God through your own devices, you will not find God within you, you will not find A God within you, you will not find God through the various new age stuff, i could go on and on.

We lost the ability to directly relate to God, which is why he came down to our level, so that we may once again find a way back to him through his son, God in the flesh.

I understand what someone means when they say that they find God when they meditate, iv'e been there, but in the end it's just another filler, another temporary fix to feel that sense of mourning we all have deep inside, it's all just ashes in your mouth but to really know God is forever, and when you truly do you will know and there will be no mistaking him because he we seem familiar, it will be as if you always knew him and you will for the rest of your life strive to get a little closer to him.

a reply to: One_Love_One_GOD

If you have no ego, no delusion, then please explain to me who this "I" is who you are defending? Who is this "I" that is so convinced we lost the ability to realize our true nature, God? Surely if you are certain of what you claim you will be able to produce a logical explanation for your reasoning behind it. Please, share with me this reason.

Also, if you meditate as you claim then please answer these questions; How many minds do you have and where are they located? What is the nature of these minds and are these minds really "you"?

Please do not misunderstand me, my words are in essence questioning why you are convinced of such reasoning. If you truly do not possess a delusion of self then surely you can explain, logically, with wisdom, why such beliefs have a foundation in reality. If you cannot prove your beliefs then truly they are only beliefs and a belief is not experiential knowledge, to believe something is to accept a delusion as truth without the experiential validation that is necessary to establish it as a truth. These words are to serve your true Self, your spirit, if you receive these words in anything but acceptance you are fundamentally controlled by delusions, false understandings of Self.

Truly those with no delusions can clearly understand the undeniable truth in these words.

a reply to: One_Love_One_GOD

You rely on Master Jesus but you mistake his teachings, he spoke not of reaching God through him but of reaching God by becoming him. Jesus teaches that the only way to know God is to know thyself, then further he elaborated that he knew the Father. Therefore one may conclude that if Jesus knew himself he knew God, therefore he was God in the flesh. You follow Jesus and you believe in Jesus but another who is like Jesus, a being who knows his Father is speaking to you right now. How can you expect to comprehend God if you cannot comprehend my message?

The teachings of Jesus are known wholely to me as my being devoted it's physical body to them and has lived them and has experienced them personally. It is known to me, it may be known to you if you only would set aside your defenses and accept that this is a possibility. My words will provide proof but to truly understand you will have to aspire to learn the teachings because assuredly the teachings will only be known to those who truly seek to incorporate them into their being by practicing the necessary disciplines and meditative exercises. My being desires to end your suffering, it yourns for you to comprehend what it comprehends, to know what it knows, to experience what it experiences and to live with meaning, with pure happiness that can never falter.

Salvation is achievable for all, one must work for it by turning inwardly. Lazyness begets nothing, effort begets progress.

a reply to: EviLCHiMP

To answer the question your title poses,

No I already do.

I see God whenever my eyes are open.

I see God when my eyes are closed.

this is a thread to correct the incorrect notions that plague those on their path to enlightenment,

Good luck then as there are no incorrect notions on the path to an individuals enlightenment unless they choose to label a notion as being incorrect.