ISIS Releases Global Takeover Map

why a different map is published in my country? with spain,greece, albania, serbia, skopia, hungaria included? (I think even Belgium is included..lol)

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so as you can see, there is specific centers, who promote propaganda... or hiding things

originally posted by: Gorman91
a reply to: whyamIhere

That map is from the video game Hearts of Iron. Lol.

Any chance you can prove that?

That version of the map is not the official one that originally went around, but I'm still curious.

originally posted by: whyamIhere

There is their ridiculous map.

I also think it has been lifted straight out of a Computer game called Victoria 2 by Paradox! If you look at the map, it shows the independent German states prior to Unification, the Austro-Hungarian Empire and other entities/borders which don't exist.

Quite weird, that, to think Jihadi's play grand-strategy games...

originally posted by: Vovin

originally posted by: Gorman91
a reply to: whyamIhere

That map is from the video game Hearts of Iron. Lol.

Any chance you can prove that?

That version of the map is not the official one that originally went around, but I'm still curious.

It's not Hearts of Iron, although that is also made by Paradox - It is definitely a map from Victoria 2 because of the presence of the Austro-Hungarians and Ottomans in SE Europe, although they only show the European side of the Ottoman Empire as the Asian side is blacked out with their Caliphate.

originally posted by: pavil
What do the other colors on the map mean?

they are ambitious, I'll give them that.

Depending on the map mode used in Victoria 2, they can mean different things although it looks like the Map is in "political mode" so the colours simply denote different nations.

I've played all paradox games to death and know them well.

originally posted by: stumason

originally posted by: Vovin

originally posted by: Gorman91
a reply to: whyamIhere

That map is from the video game Hearts of Iron. Lol.

Any chance you can prove that?

That version of the map is not the official one that originally went around, but I'm still curious.

It's not Hearts of Iron, although that is also made by Paradox - It is definitely a map from Victoria 2 because of the presence of the Austro-Hungarians and Ottomans in SE Europe, although they only show the European side of the Ottoman Empire as the Asian side is blacked out with their Caliphate.

Interesting. Maybe somebody just searched "map of Ottoman Empire" and claimed it was ISIL's map or something. I thought that one looked odd because of the small geopolitical blocs.

a reply to: Vovin

It's definitely a map from the game that someone has blacked out the corresponding provinces (which is the smaller geopolitical dividers seen) to mark out this IS Caliphate. Like I said, the presence of the AH Empire (the White block in Europe) and the disparate German states prior to unification means this is a map from before 1871. Victoria 2 starts in 1836 through to 1936, where Hearts of Iron picks up for WW2. The colours used (Green for Russia, White for Austria etc) are exactly the same as used in Vicky 2 as well.

I'm new to ATS but hardly new to the speculation of the US/MSM corruption department...

To me it seems obvious that this is nothing but propaganda for fevered, frightened, shortsighted, mainstream media viewers who are at this very moment wiping the mocha from their fat chins before it can drip onto the travel pillow they use to watch television. The syrup flew from the elephantine lips after a bust of laughter at some talking heads well placed racial slur on some morning show. This is meant to scare fat, already scared people into thinking their "freedom" is at stake.

Steak? Did somebody say steak???!!!

My question to more learned "researchers" and I would imagine, the beginning of my place here at ATS is...Why anyone here is biting at this shriveled worm?

Honest question and I mean no disrespect to anyone. Cheers!

a reply to: spookysully

Oh ok then. Nothing to see here I guess. Did you watch their own promotional video? You know, the one where they execute people with AK-47's at point blank range and spray their brains out while praising "God"? No? Maybe you should check it out. Some pretty amazing special effects if this is all hokus pokus.

a reply to: DeadSeraph

Hello friend, I'm anything but a skeptic and if I used the word hocus pocus I never meant to.. Nor can I say with any certainty that this is anything but what the media wants us to think it is. My problem is with the source, not the evidence.

I'll admit my jaded, distrust of anything televised is likely to blame for my inability to swallow what they're feeding and if I'm wrong, I'll be the first to admit so but I, along with the rest of the planet am lied to every time an ear is bent.

I've seen the video but I've seen planes hit buildings on video as well. I've seen heads chopped off on video, civilians gunned down, the elderly and indigent brutalized by disgusting pig cops...We all have! My problem is, as I said, not with the video but with the source. Not the one supposedly filming it but the report/spin being fed as it plays.

Do I think them capable? Of course but when you can look at MSN comments and see similarities with ATS I have to lean away from the hype, its really nothing more than that. I've no inside info or any psychic abilities that would allow me a deeper view, only my distrust of the televised spins being spun and maybe that's to my disadvantage and maybe I'm not seeing the forest through the trees but to me, if its on MSN, BBC, FAUX or the like... its a spun puppet show and I look elsewhere for information. That's why I'm here

On this topic, I'm lost and wanted to find out why its so effective here of all places? Thanks for the response but watching a video and trusting the one spinning it, is really my question.

No disrespect meant.

What's going on in Europe? What's that central state and what's happening in the Balkans? This is BS )

a reply to: spookysully

I have been reading the various magazines put out by the various jihadi groups in the middle east. ISIS is real.

At current moment, al-qaeda is conceding iraq to them, but fighting against them in syria. He went against the orders of zawahiri when he started killing shia... which I keep finding weird... zawahiri hates the shia so why is zawahiri willing to fight against someone who is killing them? But zawahiri said the shia are misguided and that killing them like al-baghdadi and his group are doing will only create a stronger enemy.

There is more than just that, because zawahiri and his people feel like zawahiri is the Amir of all the jihadi groups, and see themselves in charge, and are really really angry that anyone would dare to challenge that authority - and so on that basis, more than any other basis, al-qaeda is fighting them and trying to contain them to Iraq alone.

al-baghdadi and his group are following in the footsteps of Saladin in practice, by killing anyone who they believe may be a problem or may team up with their enemies in order to defeat them. They are killing, but in a planned and methodical way, so that they end up unopposed and with a unified populous in the end.

He's actually pretty smart... he would be in a better position (have more backers) if he had not thumbed his nose at zawahiri, but his way and zawahiri's way are opposing views and to see his vision through, he had no choice but to go against zawahiri because zawahiri was not planning on allowing it. Still isn't, but now he is completely peeved.

He is enacting shari'a as he goes. This is also very methodical as islamically he should not be opposed. He is holding to this, and holding others up to this standard, the standard of ijma or consensus in this regard. According to past scholars, so long as he is upholding shari'a in his territories then people should stand with him, and not against him - unless he commits blatant kufar. although there is some measure of difference of opinion here and where concerns his actions.

As of right now, he is being contained within reason, although he did get his hands on a bank in iraq which gave him control over more than a billion dollars. But in Iraq he is being fought by the shia, and have not been able to gain any further territory the past few days.. and have lost a little territory to boot.

In Syria, he is also being contained by the al-qaeda groups who are opposing him on a different principle, and that principle is, quite frankly, who is going to be Amir.

So, it is real, but more contained than I had thought it was going to be, and contained by the Muslims themselves. What we hope for at this point, is that he begins to loose the ground he has gained at this point.

He is putting out communiques in English and Arabic, utilizing media to gain more attention of the Muslims around the world. He is using every resource at his disposal to get more Muslims on his side, no matter what language they speak or where they live. As far as a battle for hearts and minds, he is gaining some measure of ground here among Muslims.... and that is why he is doing it.

While it seems off to you, its not that off considering not all Muslims speak the same language, and many Muslims are living in the west, even born here. When in a battle for hearts and minds, you speak to all the people, and don't exclude any. He does seem to be gaining a bit of ground on this front, because of his address to english speakers as well as arabic speakers.

If you want to read what average english speaking sunni muslims are saying, this is a decent thread to read. (since the shia are solidly against him without question, there is no need of hearing further on their views) but the sunnis, and what they are saying and thinking, makes for an interesting read:

forums.islamicawakening.com...

In that thread they discuss all the pros and cons of the actions of isis from a Sunni Islamic viewpoint, and what they are thinking where concerns the situation. This thread is 20 pages long, but worth reading is you want to know what some english speaking muslims are thinking.

I will not create a new topic for it, this will due..

Fresh news in my country, Russia bombarded the centrals of ISIL and they also heavily injured the leader and killed dozens of commanders of ISIL.
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a reply to: Ploutonas

I don't read the language, I do apologize, but where was this fight held?

a reply to: OpinionatedB

" In a specific aerial targets and war operation, russia and Iraq bombarded ISIL centrals. With the support of Su-25 aircrafts and helicopters. The result is to heavily injure the jihad leader of Iraq and Syria and the so called chalif ABU Bakr Bagdanti. (this names are very strange for me to translate).
The success of the operation was the result of monitoring them via satellites and thats how they succeeded to locate the centrals of ISIL hideout in the area of Qaëm western of al-Anbar."

The article therefore describes how the operation is held and that they exploded the entire area.

"Also according to islamic news, beyond the injure of the jihad leader, dozens of ISIL officials and commanders are dead and one of them is Boukamal ο Abou Mohammad"

I gave you the pure information out of it, I avoided to translate it word to word, because it gives lots of trash info..

a reply to: Ploutonas

It looks like Abu Bakr ­al-Baghdadi (the one who your article said was injured in the strikes) came out to make a public speech on friday, his first one since this began.

I suppose he did it also to say he is uninjured.

originally posted by: scorilo
What's going on in Europe? What's that central state and what's happening in the Balkans? This is BS

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Like I said, someone has coloured in a map from a computer game called Victoria 2, that map is from 19th century Europe.

ISIL destroying ancient shrines and churches, also mosques... The churches and shrines are from the 8th-9th century.

The most disturbing thing, is that these isis abominations, are western civilians who joined the isis group, via british mostly and other western countries agencies.

Probably that is also a part of the plan, that UK wanted to train 100.000 against syria and now these westerns, do crimes against humanity, but the true problem is the western countries themselves, because they feed them with resources, guns and strategy.

Here is a link and a video.

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A question, why we call it ISIL in eastern europe-mid/east and east and in the west you call it ISIS, it reminds me the egyptian goddess, like a punishement or something?

a reply to: OpinionatedB

something that is made news in my country about this video. Did you see the watch he is wearing? Worths a forture... Since when cave militants got ROLEX.

originally posted by: ElohimJD
a reply to: Willtell

The black army of the 12th Imam = ISIS

It is a Shia Islam sec, not Sunni (Saudi Arabia); Shia laws come down from the Ayatollah of Iran.

In Islam prophecy the Black army of the 12th Imam will lead a war of conquest reuniting the lands of the former Persian Empire (circa 450 BCE) near the time of the end of this age.

If you look at a map of the former Persian empire, it looks remarkably close to this black map of ISIS. To think ISIS is a Saudi sect is to believe an obvious lie; ISIS has been beheading Sunni Muslims.

God Bless,

No, ISIS is "Sunni", at least in it's roots. They are killing off other Sunni who are not "Sunni enough" for their tastes - i.e. those who are rejecting a political alignment with them, and (for public consumption) those who are not "religiously fundamentalist" enough to suit them.

There are TWO "Black Flag" armies in Islamic prophecy, a thing which even some Muslims are unaware of. One is "good" (led by the Imam/Mahdi) and one is "evil" (led by, as I recall, the Sufyani) from the Islamic viewpoint.