Very weird theory that I found on the Internet

They are just confused that there are two north poles...

a reply to: game over man

It isn't strange. It's ridiculous. It is absolutely ridiculous that people keep grasping at straws to explain their bad memory.

a reply to: LoneCloudHopper2

a reply to: raymundoko

I'm not sure what you mean? We have the true North Pole and the magnetic North Pole which is just south of the true North Pole. What exactly are you referring to?

originally posted by: raymundoko
They are just confused that there are two north poles...

a reply to: game over man

Actually there would be four north poles since we are now in an alternative time line.

The old poles and the new poles

That's what I'm referring to.

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The magnetic pole wanders and used to be over land, it has wandered to sea ice now and you can get to it in the winter.

It seems that user looked at a map and mistook the axis pole as the magnetic pole.

a reply to: game over man

originally posted by: LoneCloudHopper2
a reply to: Phage

It doesn't trouble me but it does puzzle me. It puzzles me why you and others cling to such an inconsequential thing so strongly. Who the hell cares? Why?

I felt it was self-explanatory, but perhaps not to all perspectives. It was bizarre to discover something that I not only remembered vividly but was a part of my childhood. I was not only shocked and confused, but annoyed. In my first post I believe I said I wasn't sure to be angry or sad. In a way, it's like how Lucas changed the "Star Wars" films I loved as a child. That really bothered me. Lucas and Spielberg were once involved in fighting to protect original film versions, as classic B&W films were being 'colorized' and this upset fans of art, some of which probably inspired them to become filmmakers themselves. I'm not sure if the "Berenstein Bears" had a role in my becoming a writer, but they were a touching part of my childhood, which I would certainly share with my own kids if I ever had any.

And of course, it's bizarre. I see it, others do, but others don't, and the current reality supports the change. The other changes are disturbing as well. It shows that reality isn't as stable as I liked to think. It was quite a shock, and now I'm looking for explanations, or at least seeing others who are in the same boat. It's like a question without an answer, and I can't just say, "Ah, whatever," and forget about it. I have a curious nature and I am drawn to it. I will not agree to being wrong when I know I'm right (about my memories,) on general principal, and I'm just too passionate about the truth.

I am suggesting that your memories may not be accurate and seeing as how there are others who remember it quite differently. It does puzzle me how you can be so adamant in your refusal to consider that your memories may not be accurate. I wonder why you are so vested in not considering the probability of this being the case.

When you learn that what you vividly remember no longer jives with everyone, and more than that, documented facts, of course this shakes you and you question yourself on some level. Part of me almost considered I'd gone crazy, but that didn't go far because I knew people who remembered it the way I did. I asked a cab driver what he remembered and he said: "-stein." When asked how sure he was, he said, "Pretty sure." When I told him it was now "-stain" and always was, he said he must have gotten it wrong (and the mind can play tricks, you know about that.) When I asked my sister about the famous "mirror" song, she remembered it the same as me, and when asked how sure, she said very sure and had a storybook version of it at home with that spelling. She laughed at the idea that I was saying it was different. When I showed her the vid with the different wording she replied that they must have changed it. When I explained the Internet shows it's always been spelled this way, she waited a moment (evidently reevaluating her position on the subject) and responded casually that she must have gotten it wrong.

Of course such a reply makes you question if you are being stubborn, holding to a memory because, for whatever reason, you refuse to be wrong about it. But I am very honest with myself and I still knew that the spelling had changed. It seems that many people are easily convinced that their memories are flawed; it would seem a logical deduction and I cannot disagree with it. But for some of us, we simply remember too clearly to just push it aside. In all honesty, it would be lying to myself, which I will not do.

I've always stood up for what I believed in and knew to be true. Usually I can make a strong case with evidence, good points, and I suppose I love a good debate. But this topic has no chance at a debate. I guess it's like discussing a ghost you saw with others who saw it, in front of people who never saw it and think we're crazy or deluded. This is different though, because it is more bizarre (everyone's heard of ghosts, but a shift in reality which changes the wordings of things and positions of physical locations? That's new to the public (myself included.) There are witnesses, but their testimony is easily disproved by the facts. This however does not dissuade me from speaking the truth. I will not lie to myself and pretend it doesn't matter to me when it does. I also really enjoy hearing others speak on it, to know I'm not alone in this.

I can tell you, never would I have imagined having this conversation!

I couldn't have said it better...very well put!

Your far from alone,you have plenty of company!
I didn't imagine this thread going for this long.there surly must be something more to this topic than faulty memories.I just cannot buy this many people having the same recall of the same things, one maybe two could be written off as coincidence but not this many.
something else is happening...what? I don't know

I'm guessing just bad spellers...

a reply to: TWILITE22

I had the unique privilege of discussing this topic with a drug-addled "otherly saned" person.
He was 100 percent adamant that it is "stein."
To the point of giving me the "You are an evil wizard" look, before leaving without saying bye.

a reply to: game over man

Thanks for sharing the link.

This site lists some reasons why reaching the north pole on foot is very difficult (although not impossible.)

thenextchallenge.org...

a reply to: TWILITE22

Thanks

There are so many people around the world with vivid memories of the same thing. Many of them ask their friends and family and often everyone they know remembers it the same way ("Berenstein," "Mirror mirror," etc.) It really changes how you see reality. There are different theories out there.

For me personally, I feel that this is the same reality but that it has been altered somehow. Part of me thinks that only the creative force behind the universe (God, the Higher Power or what have you,) could do such a thing. I am not closed minded to the timeline slip theory though. To me life is intriguing and always a mystery!

Here is a video where a woman explains how vividly she remembers "Berenstein Bears." Many people of course have the same vivid memory. She points out how she noticed the spelling so well as a child because, like many of us, she read those books while learning how to read and the "-stein" part was confusing to a young child, in terms of how to pronounce it.

a reply to: LoneCloudHopper2

So your argument is that since a lot of people are wrong, it must be right...

Do you really not see your logical fallacy??

The reason a lot of ATS members won't let this go is this can feed psychosis. It isn't healthy. I feel I am doing you a service by reminding you how foolish you sound.

In argumentation theory, an argumentum ad populum (Latin for "appeal to the people") is a fallacious argument that concludes that a proposition is true because many or most people believe it: "If many believe so, it is so."

You aren't right now, you weren't right in the past and you won't be right anytime in the near future.

a reply to: LoneCloudHopper2

Like the woman in the vid, I too remember wondering if it was pronounced steen or stine. Had it have been stain, that is an easy one to read and pronounce and like she said as kids we would have made fun of the stain part. I don't have an explanation as to why it has changed for so many of us.

a reply to: raymundoko

The reason a lot of ATS members won't let this go is this can feed psychosis. It isn't healthy. I feel I am doing you a service by reminding you how foolish you sound.

LOL! We know how foolish we sound seeing the evidence is Berenstain and not Berenstein. Many of us will quickly and easily admit if we are not sure about something or made a mistake. But for us, the memory of Berenstein Bears is clear, there are no doubts.

a reply to: Night Star

So you choose to accept that your memory from childhood is accurate despite evidence to the contrary? In doing so you reject all science which shows how we have false memory and how even thinking about a paast memory can change it?

False memory effects everyone.

This berenstEin crowd continues to ignore that people have ALWAYS gotten the name wrong and people STILL get the name wrong, even kids. You think your intellect is being attacked for being wrong when intellect has nothing to do with this.

a reply to: raymundoko

It's hard to know just what to say. I admit having a faulty memory like anyone else, but in this case it is different... as strange as it sounds. It's like waking up one day and realizing that Pooh bear was never pooh bear, or Kermit the frog wasn't a frog or something.

a reply to: Night Star

Ignore the troll, Night. How many times have we explained to him/her the same exact points what you've just explained? It just goes in circles. He/she knows this isn't a debatable subject, as I've already explained this to him/her. He/she is just throwing this conversation off over and over again. Best to ignore the trolls.

Another one: do you remember Looney Toons or Looney Tunes?

It's Looney Tunes, actually!
en.wikipedia.org...

The common explanation is that it ties in with another series called "Merrie Melodies," which I'm not sure I've ever seen. But look at how "Merrie" goes with "Melodies" (for the "-ie,") instead of the correct spelling, which would be: "Merry." Thus it would also make sense that "Looney Toons" would have had the same logic applied: "toons" instead of "tunes" to go with the "oo" of "loonie" (although it is misspelled: "looney.") I remember "Looney Toons."

Tiny Toon Adventures is still spelled right, though.
en.wikipedia.org...

Here's a Looney Toons game for sale, listed with the title I remember:
www.amazon.com...

a reply to: LoneCloudHopper2

Wrong, Merrie is a form of Merry. It isn't spelled wrong, just another spelling:

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It was called Merrie Melodies because it had to have at least one song per episode.

Same with Looney Tunes. The Tunes was referencing the Character songs in the episodes or the intro.

Did you even read your link? It is spelled Looney Tunes on the game and the seller mispelled it.

Tiny Toons is about the characters themselves, not the songs.

How about instead of researching things you think have changed, why don't you come to terms with the fact that MAYBE you have a bad memory. MAYBE it isn't as good as you thought it was and MAYBE you are just causing yourself undue stress and inducing a psychosis.

You should spend your time researching how memory works.

a reply to: LoneCloudHopper2

I agree with everything you said,I have a feeling it's just getting started and we'll see this and other types of high strangeness occurring more frequently.
as of this week I'm having word coincidence's where I'll be listening to a video and read the same word or sentence spoken at the exact same time,not sure I explained that right. for instance I was watching a video yesterday (don't remember which one)I do know it was a completely different subject than 911, but it said at the same time I click into a page on ats I had up and forgot about,anyway the video said "if you believe the os of 911" and at the exact time clicked on the page on ats that said "for those who believe the os of 911"...does that make sense?
I had forgot the page was up and didn't know at the time it was up because I got side tracked into something else and the page was up for 2 days,lol it was weird. I'll be reading a book and any sentence while the tv's playing and read the same word at the same time the tv speaks it or the radio...this has been going on for the past 2 weeks! anyway it's bizarre thing when it happens so frequently and causes you to take notice.
has anyone else experienced this type of phenomenon?

I will gladly admit when I've forgotten or don't remember the Berensteeeen's I remember vivdly, I definitely remember "Interview with a Vampire" cause I was a huge fan of Anne Rice books ,not "Interview with the Vampire"
I remember it as Looney Tunes not Looney Toons
the video you posted I can understand her angst on this issue she grew up with theses books I didn't I learned to read with dick and jane series(I'll have to check to see if those books are spelled correctly or how I remember them,lol).but I did read theses books all the time to my children and would have recognized the berrystain pronouncement.