"ISIS" militants with US passports?

Not really sure how and from where their roost is .It's not easy to take the Three City States out of the equation .Looking at the history of it all one has to wonder when the Jesuits may have lost their power and just morphed into some alphabet agency .They had the biggest network and contacts . a reply to: theabsolutetruth

DBL post ..first time that has happened .strange .

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It's all a bit too convenient. All the accusations of C/I/Z as a blame all for everything in the world. Most of those throwing out such accusations can't carry it any further than that.

We know there are connections to organisations, Rosicrucians, Knights Templar, Masons etc but in the whole global politics picture is there really just the one bad guy? And their aim? Would stem offs from the Knights Templar (Christian) want global Zionism or Islam. I doubt it.

Also are those of the Zionist plan accusations denying the entire history of Muslims and saying all jihadi are just acting?

Are they just pretending for some Zionist war for making money for the elite? Are the Saudi oil guys just playing along for the sake of the Jewish cause?

Any sub plots need explaining thoroughly.

If anyone truly knows of a bad guy behind all this then please do say and also say their motive.

Is it evilness, is it money, is it power, if it is, then imprisoning them is the answer and taking from them that which they stole. There has to be somebody in the know that would gladly tell. Sooner or later, hopefully sooner it will all catch up on them, any lies they told and evildoings will be revealed. All bad guys have enemies.

I certainly agree with you OP. I do not buy for a second that the CIA/NSA/British Intelligence services cannot find and stop these people if they wanted to?

Ummm, if they have numbers, they must have names right?? Seems to me putting said names on a no-fly list would solve the problem rather quickly....however when TPTB obviously do not want to solve the problem - you must look for what they could have planned. Perhaps they are hoping for some of these people to return radicalized and carry out domestic attacks? At least they could claim that and get away with it.....

Anyways, OMG OP you had me rolling, I literally spilled my coffee.

I mean look at that guy in the above picture. He looks like Abraham Lincoln with a fake wig and beard...

Ain't THAT the truth? I was laughing so hard haha. That is the worst fake beard I have ever seen.

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There is a thread showing a video that youtube has removed due to it's disgusting content. It is ISIS recruitment video and shows some very offensive scenes. The video shows some real things that they did and their aims and how they feel about those that aren't them, it isn't nice. It isn't a hollywood movie.

I suggest not watching the start, try from 22:00 then from 56:00 for their message to the west and 'non believers'.

Link to site showing offensive video

Well , I am sure you have heard Aron Ruso's interview . Now he is talking about the "City of London" ..The control of money is a way to control . Vatican ,and DC ,along with the City of London banking system that had dominated the world has to have their fingers in this .Those groups all seem to lead back to Rome .I am sure I read some where that the Jesuits were responsible in creating Islam . I will look for that link and see if I can find it . But listen to the interview and the info he got from his being friends with a Rothchild . ETA a link to the story about the creation of Islam by the Jesuits www.redicecreations.com... a reply to: theabsolutetruth

a reply to: the2ofusr1

I have heard plenty of theories and listened to too many supposedly 'outing' Zionism.

I cannot watch that guy, from the first minutes my mind won't listen to it, he looks and sounds like a guy connected to organised crime (opened a nightclub in Chicago and involved in Kennedy shooting) and as such should be treated as suspicious. Motive for blaming the other guys, much!

As for the Roman Empire instigating Islam, I wouldn't be surprised, I have studied Christianity and know that most of it is just corrupt politics from the start, stemming from the Ancient Mysteries etc but as the article (and I don't believe everything from these sites) says they lost control of Islam a long time ago which negates any accusation of them instigating jihad.

As I said it's complex and about power but there is more than one player.

He did have contact with lots of people .Not saying there is a legitimate reason for a night club but he seems to be a honest guy or was . He died not many years after giving the interview .The thread " ALL Roads lead to Rome has a lot of info on it .Not saying I agree with all of it but there is lots of proof that the Three City States are closely connected .There is a lot of info on the Jesuit's as well . That thread is why I joined ATS .Probably the biggest conspiracy of them all . www.abovetopsecret.com... Along with it's cousin thread "ALL Roads lead to Babylon www.abovetopsecret.com... If you have studied Christianity then this vid is well worth watching as well . Something I read earlier read mentioned a joint operation of the US, France,SA and Turkey are behind what is happening now .This vid brings into perspective what we might be seeing in the near future . a reply to: theabsolutetruth

a reply to: Shiloh7

I think there was a hell of a lot more to the Lee Rigby murder than we were told, or allowed to know. The black and white "Muslim kills Brit" media story pushed didn't really tell us the whole story.
Remember the night shortly after when one of the killers friends was interviewed by the BBC, in which he stated the killer was picked up in Kenya at the behest of the British government, and tortured as they tried to make an informant out of him? The media went very quiet on that very quickly and the guy interviewed was picked up by Special Branch as soon as the interview was over, on the BBC premises. Wonder what happened to him?

We, and by "We" I mean the government and it's spook agencies are up to their eyeballs in this crap and, sad though it is when a bit of blowback occurs, can we really blame the "bad guy" too much given the torture he suffered simply because they can do it and get away with it? That sort of stuff breeds violence and the wish for revenge.

If we stayed out of the mess in the first place, we'd be just fine. But, when our leadership, overtly or covertly are the ones instigating the mess in the first place, bankrolling the bad guys and the good guys for profit then we have a BIG problem. Right now, we should be bringing any remaining British citizens home from there and not sending one member of the armed forces, ships or planes there. Anyone known to be there fighting for either side should immediately have all right of return suspended and citizenship stripped from them. Oh, and those politicians who created all this should be in the ICC facing genocide charges. I know, we can only dream!

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Thanks, I have seen most of the conspiracies around the net and on ATS, and before that many books and other sources, I have been studying it all for more than 20 years in various ways so it probably isn't news to me, just another rehashed same old same old. Sure there are some truths to some conspiracies and probably more that hasn't reached ATS yet but none of them give all the answers and there are still real jihadis going around and real situations in the world.

a reply to: Britguy

They (our guys) probably aren't instigating it. They have to get tough on it, it's their duty. If they were tougher on those guys it wouldn't happen. Perhaps now they will get tougher.

This is a western funded, trained and steered operation from beginning to end. a reply to: theabsolutetruth
JERUSALEM – Members of the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant, or ISIS, were trained in 2012 by U.S. instructors working at a secret base in Jordan, according to informed Jordanian officials.

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The officials said dozens of ISIS members were trained at the time as part of covert aid to the insurgents targeting the regime of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad in Syria. The officials said the training was not meant to be used for any future campaign in Iraq.

The Jordanian officials said all ISIS members who received U.S. training to fight in Syria were first vetted for any links to extremist groups like al-Qaida.

In February 2012, WND was first to report the U.S., Turkey and Jordan were running a training base for the Syrian rebels in the Jordanian town of Safawi in the country’s northern desert region.

That report has since been corroborated by numerous other media accounts.


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Some people need to understand that just because there are UK based jihadi and some white convert jihadi and that some were US trained for the purpose of opposing other insurgents etc in other areas isn't a confirmation of it being western funded and orchestrated.

Jihad denial, obviously the new thing on ATS, a bit like holocaust denial with a new frock.

a reply to: theabsolutetruth

Yeah, I don't understand why some people don't want to admit we have a problem, or want to minimize it, or think you have a phobia because you believe there is a problem.

Mike Whitney's latest piece is a interesting read .I was surprised that he says ,he doesn't think that they will attack Baghdad . I had the same thing last week on another thread ..
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Here’s how the jowly pundit summed it up in an article in the Sunday Times titled “Five Principles for Iraq”:

“Iraq’s Shiite prime minister, Nuri Kamal al-Maliki, has proved himself not to be a friend of a democratic, pluralistic Iraq either. From Day 1, he has used his office to install Shiites in key security posts, drive out Sunni politicians and generals and direct money to Shiite communities. In a word, Maliki has been a total jerk. Besides being prime minister, he made himself acting minister of defense, minister of the interior and national security adviser, and his cronies also control the Central Bank and the Finance Ministry.

Maliki had a choice — to rule in a sectarian way or in an inclusive way — and he chose sectarianism. We owe him nothing.” (Five Principles for Iraq, Tom Freidman, New York Times)

Leave it to Friedman, eh? In other words, the reason Iraq is such a mess, has nothing to do with the invasion, the occupation, the death squads, Abu Ghraib, the Salvador Option, the decimated infrastructure, the polluted environment, or the vicious sectarian war the US ignited with its demented counterinsurgency program. Oh, no. The reason Iraq is a basketcase is because Maliki is a jerk. Maliki is sectarian. Bad Maliki.

Sound familiar? Putin last week. Maliki this week. Who’s next?

Webster Tarpley on Press TV talking about ISIS/L