By Invading, Occupying And Looting Iraq, Bush And Cheney Brought al-Qaeda Into The Country

As bad and stupid as Obama is Bush and Cheney are still degrees worse.

Bush, the NWO, Skull n Bones demonic flunky, is on the level of a Hitler to the Iraqi People, for invading that country( under false pretenses) and ruining any cohesion they had even under Saddam Hussein.

Now after almost 1 million dead Iraqi's and 5 thousand dead American troops the invasion of the devils Bush and Cheney is turning into a disaster, as any reasonable person predicted and warned, for the world and worst for the Iraqi people.
This invasion has unleashed forces that Bush and Cheney knew dam well they couldn’t control, as this article below illustrates.

The fall of Mosul to the radical, extremist Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) is a set of historical indictments. Mosul is Iraq’s second largest city, population roughly 2 million (think Houston) until today, when much of the population was fleeing. While this would-be al-Qaeda affiliate took part of Falluja and Ramadi last winter, those are smaller, less consequential places and in Falluja tribal elders persuaded the prime minister not to commit the national army to reducing the city.Text

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It is an indictment of the George W. Bush administration, which falsely said it was going into Iraq because of a connection between al-Qaeda and Baghdad. There was none. Ironically, by invading, occupying, weakening and looting Iraq, Bush and Cheney brought al-Qaeda into the country and so weakened it as to allow it actually to take and hold territory in our own time. They put nothing in place of the system they tore down. They destroyed the socialist economy without succeeding in building private firms or commerce. They put in place an electoral system that emphasizes religious and ethnic divisions. They helped provoke a civil war in 2006-2007, and took credit for its subsiding in 2007-2008, attributing it to a troop escalation of 30,000 men (not very plausible). In fact, the Shiite militias won the civil war on the ground, turning Baghdad into a largely Shiite city and expelling many Sunnis to places like Mosul. There are resentments.

For the record!

Oh no.. didn't you realize its all Obama's fault since he became president?

Pull the troops out = be damned,

Leave the troops = be damned.

a reply to: Willtell

As long as Sunnis and Shia are killing each other, Cheney and his machine heart sleep well.

Now who will save us from the Imperialist Christian crusades?

a reply to: Willtell

Yeah just like what's happening in Libya and Syria under Obama. That's the game plan. So yeah Obama is just like them.

I am thinking with the new American hardware taken from Iraq and the freed prisoners that the war in Syria is about to get a whole lot hotter ...

originally posted by: Bilk22
a reply to: Willtell

Yeah just like what's happening in Libya and Syria under Obama. That's the game plan. So yeah Obama is just like them.

Except that there is no full blown war.

The scale between Libya/Syria is nothing compare to Iraq and Afghanistan casualty and cost.

The political drive/interest behind all are the same though.

I totally agree this operation (the Iraq black op war) was the beginning of the attempt to destabilize the whole Arab and Middle East.

Though, I believe, that the first strike was 911 (though I don’t want to get into a 911 issue here).
I also agree that the retched Obama is probably taking a dive for the plot; that is he is as bad as a president that he seems to be, like Bush did at the end of his disastrous administration, go in the tank.

This may serve to elect nutty GOP lunatics like Bush in 2016. But of course Hillary ( the Wicked Witch of the West) Clinton is waiting in the wings to fly in like the witch she is to get elected in 2016 to fulfill the plot of destruction in play in the Middle East.

Neo-con Neo-lIberal ( NWO)disaster!

a reply to: Willtell

Interesting spin since Obama has stated multiple times now that Al Qaeda has been defeated.

Besides what's going on inside Iraq is not linked to Al Qaeda.. Apparently an Islamic film released on youtube is to blame.

a reply to: Willtell

Clinton is waiting in the wings to fly in like the witch she is to get elected in 2016 to fulfill the plot of destruction in play in the Middle East. - See more at: www.abovetopsecret.com...

Hillary has no chance. Little experience to draw from, virtually no success to speak of, no coherent narrative, no charisma and she's too short. Zero chance of being POTUS. She's a politico and not stupid by any stretch. She'll realize all this and won't even run. Elizabeth Warren will make her go away. She's got charisma, a populist narrative and she's taller.

a reply to: InverseLookingGlass

With Hillary's latest gaffe I doubt she will be a serious contender. According to her Abe Lincoln was a Senator from Illinois. If she knew history she would know that Lincoln lost in that election and has never been a member of the Senate. Why is it the Senators from new York are morons?

Its right up their with Schumer telling media the 3 branches of government are the President, the House and the Senate.

Well no. This is not AlQaeda, this is a group that has been there they just took the name to get more funding and fighters. They were around before the invasion. Their originial goal was to overthrow the Kingdom of Jordan but, that never worked out well. They ended up in Iraq with ties to other radical groups and were considered by Iraq as a threat against Saddam and the regime. Then came the US invasion about 3 years later. What the US did was weaken Iraq to the point that this group is a much bigger threat now. This is the group that is also in Syria fighting both Assad and the western backed Syrian rebels. So no Bush for as big a mistake of a war as Iraq was did not bring this group to iraq. What he did do is give them a much weaker Iraq as a target.

originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: Willtell

Interesting spin since Obama has stated multiple times now that Al Qaeda has been defeated.

Al-Qaeda will not be defeated until people who put them in power and people who maintain them are defeated.

Besides what's going on inside Iraq is not linked to Al Qaeda.. Apparently an Islamic film released on youtube is to blame.

There is more to that than a quarrel about a film.

The country is run by Bloods , Cartels and Crips.

Thanks for the freedom.

a reply to: Willtell

I have to agree with you there. Iraq destabilized due to the U.S. invasion, occupation and removing Saddam Hussein from power. Hussein was not our responsibility. The lies and fears that were created by the Bush Administration to justify invading a sovereign Iraq would be seen throughout the world as war crimes. Any other country with a smaller military and less influence would have been held accountable for their actions.

It's sad to think that innocent Iraq families now have to live in hell and fear, all because of the U.S. occupation. The U.S. has now created a powder keg in the middle east. Instead of removing terrorism and radical Islam, they created a magnet of revenge that recruits more terrorists. I'm sure the U.S. won' t learn their lesson and continue with a foreign policy that influences and tries to secretly control internal political ideology in sovereign countries.

Mission Accomplished!

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originally posted by: luciddream

originally posted by: Bilk22
a reply to: Willtell

Yeah just like what's happening in Libya and Syria under Obama. That's the game plan. So yeah Obama is just like them.

Except that there is no full blown war.

The scale between Libya/Syria is nothing compare to Iraq and Afghanistan casualty and cost.

The political drive/interest behind all are the same though.

Cost to whom? No full blown war? Maybe you should take a stroll thru Libya and Syria. As for Afghanistan, a war Obama claimed he believed was just, 73% of the casualties there happened on his watch. Stop apologizing for the bum.

originally posted by: InverseLookingGlass
a reply to: Willtell

Clinton is waiting in the wings to fly in like the witch she is to get elected in 2016 to fulfill the plot of destruction in play in the Middle East. - See more at: www.abovetopsecret.com...

Hillary has no chance. Little experience to draw from, virtually no success to speak of, no coherent narrative, no charisma and she's too short. Zero chance of being POTUS. She's a politico and not stupid by any stretch. She'll realize all this and won't even run. Elizabeth Warren will make her go away. She's got charisma, a populist narrative and she's taller.

You just described Obama and he got elected by our moronic electorate - TWICE!.

I'm not sure why this thread is turning into another bloviating fight on political parties; there is more than ample evidence to prove that they are joined to the same body.
Until people can see that it's the old good cop/ bad cop routine, the big money corporations running the world will continue to divide and conquer. Halburtin might be a good place to start investigating......follow the money, not the figure head puppet in office.

a reply to: Bilk22

For the record, it would be a waste of time to explain to someone with your logical and observational prowess. You win.

Not being arrogant, but it looks to me like things are going exactly as planned and allowed. WIth the way we ran that "war" and misused our mil.. it was engineered. There is great instability in the region.. more than usual now. Ripe for ops and "order out of chaos". Its exactly as it was meant to be there now.
I dont think the benefit is worth the sacrifice of the blood shed by our people and the coalition soldiers... though our govt does.

I'm not sure why this thread is turning into another bloviating fight on political parties; - See more at: www.abovetopsecret.com...

a reply to: nugget1

A large segment of the US population are brain dead from using Faux News as a trusted source of information. 40% of self identified GOP use Faux News as a primary source of information.

That breaks down to 20% of the general population that are angry, afraid, agitated, feeling persecuted and spending their savings on guns and ammo. Guess what? You get your zombies, but they are old white men and they are armed very well.