We need real life ATSNN reporters!, page 2

posted on Dec, 1 2004 @ 05:36 PM

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We do have an entire "Exclusives" section.... which is not quite an "on-scene" reporter, but close:
www.atsnn.com...

Anyone who encounters a breaking news story or otherwise a story not reported elsewhere is encouraged to submit it. The trick is to find something that hasn't been covered elsewhere. The sources we link to have the resources to do (money-requiring) research into a story, have reporters on-scene, or have someone able to get in a van with a crew and go to the scene of an accident. We don't.
Then there's press credentials for things like news conferences and the like -- not always easy to get....
Basically, a "field reporter" generally has to be in the right place at the right time. Even then, we run into a common problem .... our readers demand source links. Often we've got breaking news before it's elsewhere on the 'net, and we can't provide a handly link to Reuters or something right away. People want to see those.

So while it's a good "ideal," there really isn't a viable means to implement it at this time.
Besides, 99% of the news reported on places like Fox and CNN are taken from the Reuters and AP news feeds, which is where we get a lot of ours....so we're doing pretty well in comparison.

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theRiverGoddess

posted on Dec, 1 2004 @ 06:17 PM

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I would be willing to be a reporter....BUT.....is anybody REALLY interested in the latest and up to date issues of my sons elementary school? or how a single mom pays bills and cleanse the house? Maybe an up to date cooking report?

I dont really have much to offer folks in the way of newsworthy itams...hence why I spend online time on THIS site.

I am living a rather news free life....I dont read newspapers since they are geared to the reading abilitys of a 14 year old....and TV news??? GADS.....very biassed and chock full of advertisement junk. Most news is so negetive in nature I tend to avoid it alltogether. IF IF there was a news show called GOOD THINGS HAPPEN IN THE WORLD I would watch that.

I love this site for I can choose WHAT I want to read and avoid the issues that I dont need in my conciousness.

worldwatcher

posted on Dec, 1 2004 @ 06:35 PM

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hey wait a minute!!! I am a "real life" ATSNN reporter.

unless someone is going to give me a Press Pass, pay for my gas and other expenditures, i don't see how I can provide the type of coverage you want Surfup. Whose going to pay for my flight to the UN so that I can interview Kofi Annan or reimburse me for hours waiting for Dr. Mayfield from the NHC to give me a few words?

while I totally get your point and see where you're coming from, I think you have to realize that we all have "regular" lives and would have to be getting some sort of kickback in order for us to take time from our regular lives to run around trying to cover news as it happens.

but granted if news happens in my neck of the woods and I am on site, ATS and ATSNN will be the first to hear it from me.

FredT

posted on Dec, 1 2004 @ 06:54 PM

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Originally posted by Banshee
Then there's press credentials for things like news conferences and the like -- not always easy to get....

Basically I did pull a press credential blanket form to try to get a pass for the Peterson Trial to do a story or two. However, it became quickly apparent, there were not regular news conferences, and the reporters you saw "live" from the scene camped out there 6 am to 10 PM do do thier broadcasts. I simply cannot spend the time sitting around. Even if my wife and son and job understood, i still have things I want to do.

I apreciate what you are looking for, but do rember that ATSNN is a voulenteer service. Like being a moderator, we do this because we enjoy it, there is no compensation involved.

surfup

posted on Dec, 1 2004 @ 08:16 PM

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Originally posted by worldwatcher
but granted if news happens in my neck of the woods and I am on site, ATS and ATSNN will be the first to hear it from me.

World you put in words exactly what I was trying to tell.

We don't have a single ATS housing complex, meaning our members live in different parts of the world. So we have access to different news from lot of places.

I am not saying we change into news reporting service hiring journalists to camp outside Peterson's trial as Fred mentioned, but become more than just getting news from other sources.

True Banshee, CNN gets lot of their news from other sources, but we are above the CNN, we are non-biased.

If we are going to be non-biased, we shouldn't always rely on those biased stories hoping that we get two opposite biased story, therefore they can cancel themselves out, getting an unbiased story.

I understand this is a volunteer place, but our members witness a lot of things daily. During the election rallys, probably lot of politics people went to those speeches.

Maybe for the next one, they could go like usual and get us back some recordings, if not pics and info on those things. Since they are going to go anyway, why not help us out? This way we don't have to wait for those baised people to post stuff, but do it ourselves.

That was just one example, there are many things our members go too, and can report as stories. Say a strike, at least half of our members work, maybe if they are involved they could do a story on the strike. Ofcourse not everyone is directly involved in the consequences of strike, but some maybe.

I could go on and on with examples, but you get the idea.

To summarize, I am saying we should encourage members to post their acconts of these major things as news stories. It is like posting on ATS, except you post on ATSNN, meaning they are sharing something that hasn't been said before, or sharing something that has been said before from their own view.

There is no compensation (which leads to fraud) involved because they are already doing it, or they get involved by accident. This way we don't have to wait outside the white house and court rooms for hours. The good thing about this is that we don't see it through the lens of the TV people, we see it through our own lens, so less bias hopefully.

Surf

yekway

posted on Dec, 15 2004 @ 09:03 PM

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Work is the best answer to this.

Working towards a better future, for one and all.

Esoterica

posted on Dec, 15 2004 @ 09:08 PM

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Originally posted by worldwatcher
hey wait a minute!!! I am a "real life" ATSNN reporter.

unless someone is going to give me a Press Pass, pay for my gas and other expenditures, i don't see how I can provide the type of coverage you want Surfup. Whose going to pay for my flight to the UN so that I can interview Kofi Annan or reimburse me for hours waiting for Dr. Mayfield from the NHC to give me a few words?

while I totally get your point and see where you're coming from, I think you have to realize that we all have "regular" lives and would have to be getting some sort of kickback in order for us to take time from our regular lives to run around trying to cover news as it happens.

but granted if news happens in my neck of the woods and I am on site, ATS and ATSNN will be the first to hear it from me.

I was about to say the same thing. CNN reporters get paid. ATSNN 'reporters' do it in their free time. People tend to forget everyone here has an outside life.

TrickmastertricK

posted on Dec, 15 2004 @ 09:21 PM

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Since I became part of the ATSNN Staff, I now carry around a digital camera, micro tape recorder, and upgraded my phone to a Picture-Phone

, you never know where you will be and what if anything could happen. If anyone wants to go ahead and jump on a plane to Iraq or something, be my guest, I can't even afford food right now

. The thing is, as most staff has pointed out, that YOU Can Submit News. Get a digital camera, a tape recorder etc. etc. ,if you don't have them by chance already, and get the news. The one downfall is that we are dealing with worldly News, not a tree fell down in my backyard and split my house in two. It would have to be something on a worldy intrest level, or something in connection with it. It is what we as members make it.

surfup

posted on Dec, 16 2004 @ 07:43 PM

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www.abovetopsecret.com...

Here is what I am talking about, writing your own articles. It doesn't have to be ground breaking news, it just has to news (that involves big radius than your backyard).

Good job Fred. The article was pretty good.

Surf

Nerdling

posted on Dec, 16 2004 @ 07:54 PM

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I think you risk overcomplicating things when you move from a voluntary news posting community to a board which assigns correspondents to area's.

Most people are not professional Journalists, when you write stories of real life events that you have witnessed then you need a bare minimum of training. For instance the Peterson trial would require ANY media outlet to be accredited publicly and for its reporters to have experience in law and court reporting.

They don't give seats to amateurs.

Everyone has the right to write and submit their work but you shouldn't forget that on-the-scene Journalism takes a lot of training. There are many issues such as validity of sources, legality etc.

Sure it'd be great to move up to the next level but it's just not feasible.

surfup

posted on Dec, 16 2004 @ 08:08 PM

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Originally posted by Nerdling
I think you risk overcomplicating things when you move from a voluntary news posting community to a board which assigns correspondents to area's.
Everyone has the right to write and submit their work but you shouldn't forget that on-the-scene Journalism takes a lot of training. There are many issues such as validity of sources, legality etc.

Sure it'd be great to move up to the next level but it's just not feasible.

No complication. All I am saying is that we should encourage more of own word stories. We don't need to cover what the judge's ruling was on Peterson's case, however we could post on why he did.

Originally posted by surfup
I understand this is a volunteer place, but our members witness a lot of things daily. During the election rallys, probably lot of politics people went to those speeches.

Maybe for the next one, they could go like usual and get us back some recordings, if not pics and info on those things. Since they are going to go anyway, why not help us out? This way we don't have to wait for those baised people to post stuff, but do it ourselves.

My idea is that if someone witness something they think is resonably important, they could post it on ATSNN.

At least we can do what Kano and Fred did, research and write our own articles. Not all news is on scene, some happens in paper too.

Surf

Nerdling

posted on Dec, 16 2004 @ 08:10 PM

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Originally posted by surfup
My idea is that if someone witness something they think is resonably important, they could post it on ATSNN.

I was under the impression that people already did so.

surfup

posted on Dec, 16 2004 @ 08:20 PM

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Originally posted by Nerdling
I was under the impression that people already did so.

Do they do that on ATSNN? Maybe I am blind, but I don't see any of that type on ATSNN right now. The vacumm can be described in two ways: Either everyone is planning to do one tomorrow at the exact same time, or no one is doing it.

I understand these things aren't going to be that common, but own research articles can be, given the incentive and motivation.

Kano said to me that the main reason he posted his article was because of couple of other articles on Mars.

That tells me that we need more encouragement if we ever want to make it to the next level, which is what this thread is about.

Surf

Valhall

posted on Dec, 17 2004 @ 05:35 AM

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surfup

posted on Dec, 17 2004 @ 05:01 PM

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Right here.

That is 30 articles. Now go and look at the number of articles that is on ATSNN. What percent is this? And what percent is the articles that are being copied?

Yeah it is that low.

And look at the average amount of user views and responses to it, not even close to the copied article one.

Maybe instead of ATSNN reporters asking for real readers, how about they get the people's attention. Most of those articles are written by staff, very well written, but no one knows of their existence.

What about the non-staff? Why don't they write any famous Mars color articles?

Not because they don't want to, it is because most of them don't even know of it.

You get what I am trying to say? Yes there are articles that become famous once in a while, but mostly not.

Surf