Are conspiracy theorist violent ?

I ask the question simply because the timing seems perfect, especially with the shooter Justin Bourque on the run.
We already know he is a "conspiracy theorist", and we know he killed 3 RCMP officers injuring two more.

The truth is I am a conspiracy theorist but I completely do not believe in any kind of violence what so ever. That said,
I'm not sure all CT are alike. Just in the last week or so I've read here on ATS some pretty violent comments from some fellow
conspiracy theorists. My point is some member DO show disturbing and violent patterns of thinking. And they receive stars for their posts. The reality is that there are some very disturbed and violent conspiracy theorist among us.... So I guess if the media runs with that idea with the latest killing, they're not totally wrong.

a reply to: samsamm9

The first battle is for the conscience. It is a battle won with information, not with violence.
-Me

When they're going after pederasts-licentious-swine, I don't see a problem.

a reply to: samsamm9

First you need to define "conspiracy theorist".

You see, the government lies more than it tells then truth. In all honesty, anyone with half a wit of sense is a "conspiracy theorist".

For me personally, I have just started taking every announcement from the government and reversed the information. If there is an announcement that they are building a computer lab that will increase grades within the next year, I assume that grades will go down in the next three years. So far I have been correct more often than I have been wrong.

Are conspiracy theorists violent?

Not anymore than anyone else I reckon.

Everyone who questions is a conspiracy theorist. Anyone who has been lied to and has enough sense to be paranoid with subsequent statements is a conspiracy theorist.

That doesn't lead to increased violence within oneself. If anything, it makes you become more aware of the immoral nature of violence.

TPTB should take a good long while to contemplate this wake up call.

Of course, the swine a bit further down south will not even think about it.

a reply to: samsamm9


Its just a label a human places on themselves or others.

Are humans violent?

And there's your answer.


I find it an ignorant question, almost like are Muslims terrorists, its just a generalization in a negative fashion to cause division in those that cant see the divide and conquer technique being used whenever a person does something to attract attention and groups from both sides of the fence will use the attracted attention to their own causes via propaganda.

Ask the question and replace conspiracy theorist with any other label and the answer is always yes.

Its the label placed on ourselves that is used to manipulate public perception by the groups looking to gain in one way or another.

a reply to: samsamm9

No more than anyone else. Some people are trained to be effective in violent situations, obviously anyone that was operational within the military is going to have some abilities that are considered not as commonplace in the average person on the street. I think the mainstream media is pushing this agenda because there is probably data available that more people are realizing that everything they are being fed by politicians is BS.

Right now to me, it looks like pre-French Revolution, just in 2014, and (name of your political leader here) is Marie Antoinette and/or her ridiculous and corrupt friends. The banksters think they will get away with it again, just like before, make hard copy pictures, maybe someone could make a deck of playing cards ;-) The government is just trying to stay ahead of the tipping point for their handlers/masters, that's all. So they will try to circumvent people rising up against them by making those people that are inquisitive into their lies look like the bad guys and then use peer pressure to drive the agenda.

Cheers - Dave

People prone to violence represent a certain percentage of our population regardless of belief or ideology. Naturally, since there is no correlation between violence and thought patterns, this same percentage would be spread across all ideologies and thought patterns. In other words, there is a certain segment of every group of people (usually the same percentage across groups) who is prone to violence. The key is not to let those violent prone individuals steer your groups philosophy and direction or let outside groups label your group for the actions of the few (the violent).

Probably the largest proponent of conspiracy theories is the U.S. government. The U.S. government is also very violent.

So in that case it would be true.

a reply to: samsamm9

I recall reading somewhere that a couple of mass shooters were members of ATS

Also a scary amount of cop haters here too, I assume it's mostly just chest beating, much like every other person here demanding an armed revolution against the government.

So to answer your question, maybe, but probably not.

That would be half of America is violent:

Yeah, I would've guessed at most 20 percent. And that's why this new research by Eric Oliver and Thomas Wood at the University of Chicago took me aback. They find that 50 percent of the country subscribes to at least one of these conspiracy theories. So 19 percent of Americans believe the U.S. government was behind the 9/11 attacks. 25 percent believe the recent financial crisis was caused by the small cabal of Wall Street bankers. 11 percent of people believe the government is mandating a switch to compact florescent light bulbs because the light bulbs make people obedient and easy to control.

NPR

Entertaining a conspiracy theory is hardly a viable indicator of any activity.

a reply to: samsamm9

Are all gamers violent ? , so many times games are linked to shootings and murders but the fact is most people who play games , or are conspiracy theorists don't commit acts of violence or murder.

The media like to put people in boxes so if the perpetrator listens to heavy metal , plays violent video games or sees the world differently to "regular" people it is that that's behind their behaviour rather than something more complex.

No doubt threads will start to appear claiming conspiracy as seems to happen these days when any act of violence of this sort occurs ....It's a conspiracy.
Conspiracy theorists are just people and sometimes people do bad things.

a reply to: samsamm9

I think that question is somewhat ambiguous.

A more probative query would be, are conspiracy theorists more prone toward violence than people who are not conspiracy theorists? I would posit, that people in general either are, or are not naturally predisposed toward violence, no matter whether they have, or have not been exposed to conspiracy theories, and alternative perspectives on things like the global economy, the wars on terror and drugs, and the state of Liberty in the "free" world.

If you go into any city in the developed world, and keep your eyes peeled, you will see violent people who barely think at all, let alone about the issues, people whose lives have become a daily cycle of rage, brutality, and depravity. You will, if you have the brass nuts and a death wish large enough, be able to seek out people who would kill their neighbours for pocket change, and sell their family members for a fix of something nasty.

If I had to guess, I would say that owing to the sheer number of totally morally defunct human beings out there, who have not HAD a thought for as long as a decade, it is unlikely that proportionally speaking, conspiracy theorists are more likely to be violent than anyone else.

In fact, one could argue, that knowing the sheer scale of what the species faces, in terms of the forces which range against its freedom from the tyrannies enacted against it all over the world, a conspiracy theorist might be more likely to refrain from violence, if only because they know what their actions will turn into, and be used to excuse.

Thanks for the replies.

It's a nonsensical question for sure. Some are some are not and that is in any type of group of people. The question is more to create a dialogue about the subject.

It's just that I'm stunned people here on ATS can openly call for the killing of which ever group and they even get support from other members. Just in the last week, at least 3 disturbing posts I've seen, one calling for the destruction of Muslims, one poster wished for the U.S to perish and another poster kinda said it was ok to kill bad cops.

Are they just oblivious, stupid or violent ?? All three ?

a reply to: samsamm9

I think you answered your own question.. you asked if they are violent, you stated you are a conspiracy theorist who doesn't believe in violence.. therefore, not all conspiracy theorists are violent..

=)

I don't view myself as a conspiracy theorist .. I like the topics and the search for rationality / fact .. I'm also not one for violence.

a reply to: samsamm9

No!

I'm too busy writing about my frustrations.

If I had nothing to utilize to vent my frustrations, then I may find another route to get the point across.

Violence will be my last resort- probably against an imbecile thinking I'm on the other "team?"

I prefer the term 'Reality Analyst'. That's what we are. We analyse what is really going on behind the lies and deceit.

Are Reality Analysts violent? Hell no. Are the liars we are exposing violent. Definitely YES!

originally posted by: qwerty12345
When they're going after pederasts-licentious-swine, I don't see a problem.

Your use of the word licentious is misplaced here. Licentious is a relativist standard. Who are you to be the judge of morals? Who is this society to be the judge of morals? Your statement would be made much stronger if you replaced it with "hypocritical." Many rich and elite are pederasts and pedophiles, yet, they are hypocrites about it. I see nothing "licentious" about pederasts, especially considering all the cultures, tribes, and some communities in America that actively embrace it today. Although hypocrites are licentious, not all pederasts are licentious.

EDIT: (Instead of posting another post): I do not think conspiracy theorists are violent. When the government instills fear and uses deception to control and dominate its People, it is only inevitable that a person will become violent. The problem is not with the conspiracy theorist, but rather, is with a government and aristocracy that We the People cannot trust.

Most conspiracy theorists I know on Facebook are misfits and lunatic, they generally have an aggressive nature especially when you refuse to believe or discredited there fantasy...

I would have to agree and say, yes 90% of those I personally know are violent and/or aggressive when debated on there beliefs similar to extremist islamics

a reply to: samsamm9
Everybody is violent if pushed too far, even a kind and gentle Mother can snap with the wrong input.
Luckily we have a method of exposing corruption on a huge scale that was not available even 20 years ago.
With crooks being exposed for what they are, some people just cannot be satisfied living with their cognitive dissonance.
Expect more people to come to sanity....err "snap".