Have You had Contact with an Alien?

Yes. Since about age 5 right on up to mid 50's. This question seems to come up every couple years. Their concern over the years is now with our surveillance. People weren't traced online as much in years ago as in now. I can say that the good ET's are concerned with the health and welfare of it's studies, (meaning us). Although they realize we want to share our stories with others to find comfort, they are concerned about what might happen once we "step out of the closet", so to speak. Advice to me has been to make others realize the dangerous situation we can be putting ourselves into by telling our stories so openly. In most cases, the people tracking these type of things will say we are crazy...but not all.

originally posted by: tanka418
I submit sir: that you are wholly ignorant of the nature of "Empirical Evidence". Go find a dictionary and look it up...

While personal experience/observation can be (under certain conditions) empirical evidence per se, that personal experience or observation should not be something that only the claimant (the person claiming to have had the experience/made the observation) could have experienced.

The general definition for empirical evidence is usually data that can be observed and agreed upon by anyone. An example would be an experimenter observing that, during an experiment, water boiled when it reached a temperature of 100 C at 1 atmosphere of pressure. Anyone repeating that experiment in the same manner should get the same observed empirical data as the next person.

I'm not sure how personal anecdotal data from a personal experience qualifies as being empirical evidence. maybe in the very broad general definition of "empirical" (which generally means "through observation or experience"), but not really by the definition usually used in science. For the most part, anecdotal experiences are not necessarily empirical observations.

Excuse the harshness, but telepathic contact with extraterrestrials is a load of BS. Utter BS.

First, let's assume these beings are humanoids. Are you telling me that their vastly different planet, gravity or galaxy permitted for the evolution of a species to allow for the synaptic connection and neural activity in their brain to be identical enough to send signals that are exactly suited for neural receptors in human brains?? And that these low (Extremely low) electrical signals are not only in the exact same frequency, but can traverse vast distances of space instantaneously, violating known physics? The closest galaxy to us is 25,000 Light Years away. These beings are in the Milky Way, you say? The closest multi-planet solar system to us is 15 light years away. To communicate telepathically - assuming messages can travel over synapses between two separate points in the universe and the brain's electric signals across space - this would take 15 years for every "Hi, how are you?"

Once you apply critical thinking and knowledge to bogus claims, it becomes clear just how ridiculous they are.

The universe is unimaginably immense and I have no doubt that there are other beings out there...I have yet to see any proof that we've made any contact with them.

Yes. And there will not be any 'Empirical Evidence' any time soon. In fact, that is the last thing we want. You see, we are the subject of a 'cold war'/'political struggle' among those far more advanced. If disclosure were to come about we would be thrown into a mess we would have no control over.

As I have been made to understand, the Grays have us by a million years or so. It took them awhile to gain the knowledge to search for other intelligent life. Eventually they found it. But not where you would think. They found it on their own planet, just in another dimension.

Now wait a minute, don't shake your head just yet. Even now quantum theory allows for a multi-verse. And doesn't it make more sense energy wise to slip into a different dimension rather than trying to fold or bend space? Wouldn't we see those energy signatures all over the place if that much energy was being used? From what I understand, moving dimensions is nothing more than altering your 'quantum resonance'. I personally compare it to radio stations on the same radio. (This also answers how they breath our air and work fine in our gravity and answers many other questions we can discuss later)

Okay, let's move back to the Grays and their new found life. Dinosaurs, or more to the point, what we have classified velociraptors. A little genetic manipulation and we now have the reptilian 'aliens'. Teach them your science and now you have another intelligent species. The down side is that they did not earn that knowledge on their own. They did not learn to respect that knowledge.

So now we have the Reptilians searching the dimensions. Eventually they find our world. Dinos are gone but there are these mammals hanging out. The Reptilians figure that if they were genetic manipulated, so can these mammals. We become their experiment. They become our gods and are also known as the Annunaki. The Annunaki did not have the same 'moral' conventions as the Gray's. They experimented on our species quite a bit. They considered us their property. We were their servants, their slaves, their playthings.

When the Gray's finally found out what the Reptilians were up to, they were not happy. It all came to a halt fairly quickly. It was decided that humans were to be left alone to become whomever they choose to be. The Reptilians still harbored the idea that we belonged to them. They made us after all and we owed them. But the Grays made them back off. So now we were without our physical gods. We were cast adrift. Still an experiment but one where we decided our own fate.

This brings us to today. The inter-dimensional 'cold war' has three main factions. The main Grays who still want us left alone as to mature further. A smaller faction of Gray's who say we are as a species to violent and without high enough morals. They believe we are a failed experiment and need to be disposed of. The Reptilians still feel we belong to them, that we owe them for everything we have. They want to be gods once again.

Disclosure would bring all this to the surface. We would have to deal with things we have no way of dealing with. The factions are not amicable towards one another. Our best options would be the main Grays but they don't really want to deal with us as we are right now. The other two factions would not make life pretty for us. Our way of life would be utterly destroyed if we had disclosure. Sometimes it is easier to live in ignorance.

a reply to: ObservingTheWorld

Please provide evidence of all your insane claims.

Thank you.

originally posted by: [post=17994456]Soylent Green Is People

I'm not sure how personal anecdotal data from a personal experience qualifies as being empirical evidence. maybe in the very broad general definition of "empirical" (which generally means "through observation or experience"), but not really by the definition usually used in science. For the most part, anecdotal experiences are not necessarily empirical observations.

There are those, especially the always present skeptics and debunkers, who will agree with you, but other men of science may see it differently. For example the Harvard psychiatrist John Mack who after inteviewing many so-called abductees came to the conclusion that the stories matched so consistently and that in his opinion the experiencers of the abductions were neither delusional or being deceptive, that there was sufficient evidence to believe them and that a phenomenon not yet clearly definable but none the less 'real' was occurring.

Being a life long student of the strange and interesting and 'possibly' an experiencer myself of alien phenomenon I start posts like this one A. Because they may be interesting to many of us. and B. Because maybe, just maybe, we may learn something, see a pattern. or in other ways enligten or paradigms of reality [assuming you believe there is an ultimate reality which I do not believe as it is always changing].

If you are interested in this post you may also be interested in another post I recently started here on ATS:

John Mack and Alien Disclosure
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Thanks all for reading and replying,
-AlienView

originally posted by: BestinShow
a reply to: andr01d
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Seeing something while having a cigarette seems extremely common among the UFO crowd. I'd say smoking cigarettes probably substantially increases ones chance of seeing a UFO

a reply to: LogicalRazor

Oh come now, we are not so naive as to believe there will ever be any evidence of any claim regarding aliens. You know as well as I that what you ask for is not possible from ANY poster on this thread. Theories, dreams and speculations are just that. As such, one is as insane as another. But insanity, applied the right way, can be quit entertaining.

a reply to: AlienView

John Mack had no evidence to support his claims. His beliefs and comments on the subject, were predictably subjective and based on hearsay and third party accounts. No direct evidence. No credible evidence. For this reason, he was highly ridiculed.

originally posted by: ObservingTheWorld
a reply to: LogicalRazor

Oh come now, we are not so naive as to believe there will ever be any evidence of any claim regarding aliens. You know as well as I that what you ask for is not possible from ANY poster on this thread. Theories, dreams and speculations are just that. As such, one is as insane as another. But insanity, applied the right way, can be quit entertaining.

What is real? - Is it always the same? Are you sure? - I say prove it - and as soon as you have proved it it has changed - there is no fixed absolute reality and there never will be. All we have is an ever changing paradigm which for limited moments in time is discernible to most people and therefor is so accepted. Possibly, quite possibly, there are advanced species of being who play with your reality in ways that you can only imagine - and imagine you will have to do to see what some will continue to call delusional - So let the block heads keep imagining a fixed controllable paradigm or reality - however understand they are the ones who are delusional.
-AlienView

PS: I loved your reply ObservingTheWorld where you created an interesting mythology for the different forms of ETs
and their relationships to humans - Is it based on any noted alien theorists ideas or just yours?

originally posted by: LogicalRazor
a reply to: ObservingTheWorld

Please provide evidence of all your insane claims.

Thank you.

Welcome LogicalRazor, welcome to the new probabilities of the Quantum Universe where your logical razor does not cut the mustard, in fact it is not even logical. In a universe where all possibilities are possible your old paradigm of a fixed universal reality is no longer acceptable - Quantum physics says you are the one who is delusional - Your reality is a figment of your imagination and has nothing to do with the paradigms of realities you can not accept even though they are both logical and even possible. Alien contact delusional? No, it is the acceptance of a single paradigm of a fixed reality that is delusional. So go back to your old world logic and reality, but understand it has nothing to do with the quantum world that exist all around you.

And yes John Mack did receive a lot of ridicule and even though still not accepted by all has been vindicated by many who accept the possibilities of his theories - And yes those theories where based upon scientific analysis missing only the myopic paradigms of the past.

First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.

-Mahatma Gandhi

a reply to: AlienView

For me, it makes the most sense now knowing what we do about quantum mechanics. With the parallel dimension theory you are not needing to expend almost impossible amounts of energy in order to contact other life. What I have written is just a very brief synopsis of the whole theory. This theory explains UFOs and their amazing abilities, ancient aliens, Niburu, ancient mythological sites and may I even dare say dark matter and dark energy. It all starts at the Big Bang. I will try and write more tomorrow.

originally posted by: Soylent Green Is People

While personal experience/observation can be (under certain conditions) empirical evidence per se, that personal experience or observation should not be something that only the claimant (the person claiming to have had the experience/made the observation) could have experienced.

The general definition for empirical evidence is usually data that can be observed and agreed upon by anyone. An example would be an experimenter observing that, during an experiment, water boiled when it reached a temperature of 100 C at 1 atmosphere of pressure. Anyone repeating that experiment in the same manner should get the same observed empirical data as the next person.

Seriously, y'all need to actually READ the posts. IF you had you would have noticed a link to NUFORC (National UFO Reporting Center) where; a report of a diamond shaped UFO and a commercial aircraft are reported. AND, in a city far, far away from where I live. Thus, the report is from a "third" party, who had an experience...that I seem to have predicted.

Their "Diamond shaped" UFO and aircraft appeared on April 16, 2014...two days before the end of my prediction period.

That, by the way...fits the definition of "empirical evidence" quite well.

Empirical evidence (also empirical data, sense experience, empirical knowledge, or the a posteriori) is a source of knowledge acquired by means of observation or experimentation.[1] The term comes from the Greek word for experience,

en.wikipedia.org...

a reply to: LogicalRazor

Once you apply critical thinking and knowledge to bogus claims, it becomes clear just how ridiculous they are.

Yes indeed; and you should have started decades ago!

Firstly, just how are those other worlds "vastly" different? Yes the other worlds are different; however, science is finding that there are actually quite a large number of Earth like planets. By "Earth like" they do mean; similar mass (gravity), in the habitable zone, typically of a class "G" star.

In short; there is no lack of other planets that are quite enough Earthlike to product a plethora of "Humans" to populate any galaxy.

You seem to have no understanding of the physics of Telepathy...think of Quantum Entanglement...on a biological level. The requirement you seem to think is required may not be, in that, it might not be a requirement that both sides have bio-electrically compatible brains. Telepathy seems to happen on a somewhat deeper level anyway, more on a consciousness level.

Telepathy is a real phenomena and has been demonstrated both in the laboratory, and in the "real" world.

a reply to: AlienView

Do you think on a website that is constantly monitored by the NSA and other intelligence agencies people would detail such experiences when they know such a public disclosure may bring them unwanted attention? If they decide to, I salute their courage, it is in stark contrast to all those sub-humans who strive to keep their fellow man in the dark.

originally posted by: tanka418

Telepathy is a real phenomena and has been demonstrated both in the laboratory, and in the "real" world.

I've read an exhaustive amount of research regarding telepathy and psychokinesis....never did I ever come across any experiments that were able to conclusively prove the existence of either phenomenon. I would be VERY interested if you could point me to a credible study/experiment. It would be beyond interesting.

I have in various ways, and more than 3 times.

I do not want to talk about it much on ATS anymore, I have mentioned it a few times on a few threads and I cannot be bothered arguing about it anymore, if anyone doesn't believe, their opinion is something I don't care about.

Anyway, for those that have experienced such 'encounters' sometimes it is good to get some perhaps validation or to know that others have.

I liken it to communication being beyond telepathy, even in physical encounters, as if feeling like being made of the same light and communicating in a 'light' way, as if being made of ethereal absolute light. I filmed this video recently, one of many on a day that felt magical, spiritual and as if communicating with some 'essence', for an art video I made, it reminds me of my 'encounters'. I liken my 'encounters' as being similar to this video, as in if one had become part of this light, especially where the rays turn into a bright pink beam. As if being absorbed by such an ethereal light and being pulled into it whilst retaining physicality and experiencing 'super consciousness' and communicating on a 'super conscious' level.

Encounters that are beyond the 'normal' reality sphere that influences one's life in every way, for good.

originally posted by: LogicalRazor
I've read an exhaustive amount of research regarding telepathy and psychokinesis....never did I ever come across any experiments that were able to conclusively prove the existence of either phenomenon. I would be VERY interested if you could point me to a credible study/experiment. It would be beyond interesting.

There is no "conclusive proof" by your standards...yet.

However, I am not s encumbered. When One can make it work, the need for any sort of scientific evidence is no longer required.

I'm sorry, but I can provide no verifiable data for you, only anecdotal evidence. But, you need to understand that scientific protocol is not restricted to the laboratory and may be individually applied with equal success.

When I experience a "telepathic" communication from a "being" purporting to be the Captain of a starship, and he tells me about a solar flare 2 hours before it becomes visible to existing technology, I have a tendency to believe that both Telepathy is real, as well as the captain and his ship.

Course, we won't have much acceptance from a single event, but when such events continue over a period of years, acceptance becomes virtually assured.

In the case of telepathy, after acceptance comes a lengthy "training" period...sigh.

originally posted by: tanka418
There is no "conclusive proof" by your standards...yet.

However, I am not s encumbered. When One can make it work, the need for any sort of scientific evidence is no longer required.

I'm sorry, but I can provide no verifiable data for you, only anecdotal evidence. But, you need to understand that scientific protocol is not restricted to the laboratory and may be individually applied with equal success.

What happened to "demonstrated both in the laboratory, and in the 'real' world"? Scientific protocol may not be restricted to the lab, but it does insist on more than anecdotal evidence.

originally posted by: conundrummer
What happened to "demonstrated both in the laboratory, and in the 'real' world"? Scientific protocol may not be restricted to the lab, but it does insist on more than anecdotal evidence.

A demonstration of concept, or operation (as it were) is NOT any sort of "proof".

In Technology we often construct a "proof of concept". This is virtually what we wish to develop, but it doesn't really work yet. Kind of like showing that the whole thing "CAN" work.

I seriously hope you don't apply 17yo logic to this, and actually think it through.

The data I have are only "anecdotal" for you. To me it is first hand data, gained through observation, and typically verified by a third party (like NUFORC.org). Just because you have not collected my data, it does not become invalid.