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originally posted by: AlienView
First let me define an alien as a being not of the normal paradigm of reality - and apparently not of this world who appears to exist as a sentient being [ie. conscious, aware and apparently operating by his [or her] own volition]. And by contact we mean that you perceived this alien entity and in some way had interaction with it - and this could include something very superficial such as it looked at you and you looked at it and it was gone - or more dramatic such as an abduction. I will also include 'channeled' experiences where you believe an alien mind was contacting you for whatever purpose it said.
And of course the most important question that both believers [such as I] and the skeptics [who will inevitably add their opionions] we might ask is - What makes you think the whole experience was not just a figment of your imagination? Why do you think the event or experience was real
originally posted by: darkorange
originally posted by: AlienView
First let me define an alien as a being not of the normal paradigm of reality - and apparently not of this world who appears to exist as a sentient being [ie. conscious, aware and apparently operating by his [or her] own volition]. And by contact we mean that you perceived this alien entity and in some way had interaction with it - and this could include something very superficial such as it looked at you and you looked at it and it was gone - or more dramatic such as an abduction. I will also include 'channeled' experiences where you believe an alien mind was contacting you for whatever purpose it said.
And of course the most important question that both believers [such as I] and the skeptics [who will inevitably add their opionions] we might ask is - What makes you think the whole experience was not just a figment of your imagination? Why do you think the event or experience was real
Hi,
I wish you had a physical vs spiritual encounter. I do say that coz I, for instance, would love to learn something from that being. otherwise there is no point. Like little secret of tomorrow or define who I am and how I can be better.
originally posted by: AlienView
originally posted by: darkorange
originally posted by: AlienView
First let me define an alien as a being not of the normal paradigm of reality - and apparently not of this world who appears to exist as a sentient being [ie. conscious, aware and apparently operating by his [or her] own volition]. And by contact we mean that you perceived this alien entity and in some way had interaction with it - and this could include something very superficial such as it looked at you and you looked at it and it was gone - or more dramatic such as an abduction. I will also include 'channeled' experiences where you believe an alien mind was contacting you for whatever purpose it said.
And of course the most important question that both believers [such as I] and the skeptics [who will inevitably add their opionions] we might ask is - What makes you think the whole experience was not just a figment of your imagination? Why do you think the event or experience was real
Hi,
I wish you had a physical vs spiritual encounter. I do say that coz I, for instance, would love to learn something from that being. otherwise there is no point. Like little secret of tomorrow or define who I am and how I can be better.
It is conceivable that there are minds so powerful, so far advanced above normal human intelligence, that to communicate with Man directly would be counterproductive - they might literally 'blow your mind' if they tried to communicate directly with you on their own level. So such minds keep observing, recording data, communicate in strange dreamlike ways from mental and/or physical abductions to crop circles some of which are not explicable and not done by normal human machinations.
originally posted by: darkorange
Hi,
I wish you had a physical vs spiritual encounter. I do say that coz I, for instance, would love to learn something from that being. otherwise there is no point. Like little secret of tomorrow or define who I am and how I can be better.
originally posted by: tanka418
originally posted by: darkorange
Hi,
I wish you had a physical vs spiritual encounter. I do say that coz I, for instance, would love to learn something from that being. otherwise there is no point. Like little secret of tomorrow or define who I am and how I can be better.
Why would you ask questions, or want something you can get yourself, easily?
One of the first things ET will tell you is:
No One can define "who" or "what" you are other than yourself. You can be "better" by simply "paying attention" and observing simple rules...rules you already have and know.
Oh...you can get your "little secret of tomorrow" by; again, paying attention. In this case; paying attention to today, and it will tell you most of what will happen tomorrow.
And, oh look; you didn't need ET!
Extraterrestrials do not come here with "secrets" to "give". They come here for vastly different reasons, which can be as mundane as "they heard a radio broadcast (signal)". And, just maybe...ET came here to learn...
originally posted by: darkorange
ETs come here for a more particular reason. Individual pips are of no interest if you ask me.
Second, I put together crucial questions if I had a chance to speak to a rep of ET civilization. That's all.
If you know all about yourself, cheers to you, but I personally doubt you know who you are and how people take on you. You could be mildly delusional about yourself.
Seriously!!! There is no need of personal attack...
ET comes here for his own reasons, and it is not possible for us to know them, unless One is telepathic. And even then, we only get to know a little.
originally posted by: Captobvious94
I am terribly intetested in why they wont make themselves known to the general public is it fear of what the world government would do or what plz reply with there answer if they give one a reply to: tanka418
originally posted by: tanka418
originally posted by: Captobvious94
I am terribly intetested in why they wont make themselves known to the general public is it fear of what the world government would do or what plz reply with there answer if they give one a reply to: tanka418
The reasons for no open contact is the Terrestrial Governments; they quite simply won't hear of it.
Yes, I know that ET can make a mass landing any time, any where he wants; but, that would start trouble that may result in the destruction of Terrestrial civilization, society, and all of the technological progress you have made for the past several hundred years.
In particular, the United Stares government forbids ET to approach any closer than 75,000km. Most ETs respect this. And, yes, there are exceptions.
You see the problem is that IF the US decides to enforce this restriction, then ET may be forced to deal with the US and virtually destroy the military, and most of their resources and capability. This would seriously upset the balance of power on Earth. Also, if other countries joined in the war, then there would further destruction.
There is absolutely no need of any of that...ET is not responsible for how "stupid" your governments are...that's your look out.
originally posted by: waltwillis
Try to keep an open mind about the very strange reports and maybe someday our government will fess-up.
One does not begin a friendly discussion by suggesting that the "other" is delusional. It is not "diplomatic" nor is it productive, and tends to place others on the defensive.
I find it better to not use such language at first...better to wait for some actual "indicators" to appear first, rather than make the accusation "out of the gate. "
But hey, I'm still learning this diplomacy thing...perhaps it is better to first insult those you are talking with...
originally posted by: johnnyjoe1979
I don't see what any government has to do with this. People in the government are just people, civilians with a job which happens to be in the government. Surely they have power but it is only mundane power, they have little to say about what are more alike to religious matters. It is up to the individual to take up studying spiritual matters, selfexamine and attain some form of contact but most don't want to since living one's life is much simpler without besides there are not many teachers nor students.
originally posted by: tanka418
originally posted by: johnnyjoe1979
I don't see what any government has to do with this. People in the government are just people, civilians with a job which happens to be in the government. Surely they have power but it is only mundane power, they have little to say about what are more alike to religious matters. It is up to the individual to take up studying spiritual matters, selfexamine and attain some form of contact but most don't want to since living one's life is much simpler without besides there are not many teachers nor students.
Here is a fundamental misunderstanding!
Thinking that ET is in any way "spiritual" is wholly incorrect. Extraterrestrials, and nearly everything connected to them is purely physical, no "spirit" involved. However, please do not interpret that as "ET is not spiritual." ETs are NOT angels, demons, they do not come from alternate dimension. ET is not any different than any other "person" you know. The most significant difference between you and ET is your planet of origin.
originally posted by: johnnyjoe1979
originally posted by: waltwillis
Try to keep an open mind about the very strange reports and maybe someday our government will fess-up.
I don't see what any government has to do with this. People in the government are just people, civilians with a job which happens to be in the government. Surely they have power but it is only mundane power, they have little to say about what are more alike to religious matters. It is up to the individual to take up studying spiritual matters, selfexamine and attain some form of contact but most don't want to since living one's life is much simpler without besides there are not many teachers nor students.
As for why there would be contact, I think it is mostly for learning about the soul and mind and preparing for an eternal life. Everybody has a right to learn about the soul and mind any way they see fit as long as it doesn't hurt anybody. There are so many worlds besides ours, some much older with beings who enjoy teaching the younger souls, even if our planet comes with a lot of problems.
originally posted by: Erno86
Between my sighting of a foofighter, one night in November of 1976, approx. 40 miles west of Washington D.C., I seemed to sense --- telepathically ---- the presence of a highly intelligent E.T. alien entity.
The Calvert Cliffs ET alien entity tried too communicate to me with geoglyph carvings, laser holographic images and possible hydro wave experiments.
I responded back with a classic --- Welcome To Earth --- carving in the face of the cliff. My own waterproof messages on one of his hydro wave experiments ---- including my own carving in the side of a dead tree, that fell off the top of the cliff --- Require tachyons + black holes, stop 1999 AA asteroid.