British Big Cat

We also have our fair share of sightings in the north east (UK), I've always had an interest in the reports since im certain I've witnessed one chasing a hare across the moors. Ive told the story here before but cant link to it as im on my phone at work.

There is also the story from a fella who used to deliver medicines/drugs to the vets in the area, he was driving over the moor an came across a police car that was parked slightly off the road and a tractor that was alongside it with its bucket partially raised, when he got out to see if they needed assistance he noticed a big sandy coloured cat in the bucket. The story goes that the police car had hit it and then asked a local farmer to help remove it. His offer of assistance was refused and he was told/asked not to mention it to save panic.

A large cat also frightened a policeman in Selby whilst walking down a dark alleyway on patrol, in another case there was several reports of a big black cat crossing Newport bridge which spans the river Tees.

These reports can all be found online but again I can't link to them just yet.

The fact they actually caught a 18 month lynx in Barnet is certainly intersting!

No Zoo reported it missing and a Lynx is not something you keep illegally, at least without a lot of difficulty!

a reply to: LadyGreenEyes

It must be embarrassing to be an official trying to explain the black cats when there is no explanation that doesn't sound incredible. In the UK there were never enough in captivity to account for more than a fraction of the sightings. To me that has to mean Roman plus native and a current population explosion.

One dedicated researcher thinks hybrids are being bred and released. He also says every expert has their preferred theory. I suspect none of these theories would sound very convincing as a school project, never mind a public announcement.

The cougars in Australia are said to be partly American mascots turned loose when the troops went home plus whatever other escapes and releases occurred.

I read that the use of trigger cameras has shown jaguars further north than their previous official range.

Here the black cats are known to walk behind trigger cameras. Investigating these cats could turn you into an eccentric. You buy trigger cameras to answer questions and it just leads to more questions. How do they know to walk behind the camera?

I'm going to go out on a expedition and hunt for the Wishaw Panther, just need to overcome my fear of the dark...Panthers.... and Panthers in the dark first.

a reply to: crazyewok

The puma captured in Scotland in the 80's could have been put in the trap. There are plenty of puma and lynx in that area but the friendly old pet found in the trap isn't typical of the clever wild puma living and breeding in the area.

a reply to: MarsIsRed

That sounds fascinating. How fortunate to have a sighting that isn't fleeting, time to actually study what you're seeing.

originally posted by: MarsIsRed


If it were up to me, I'd try to reintroduce wolfs and bears to the UK.

Steady on, i like my walks in the woods to be as uninterrupted as possible by shouts of...Hey Bear, Hey Bear..... every 5 seconds

a reply to: Catch_a_Fire

Did it catch the hare?

a reply to: Soloprotocol

A man who's partner had a terrifying experience with a panther screaming at her from a branch overhead cured himself of fear by deciding that getting eaten by a panther was probably a pretty cool way to go, reputation wise at least.

a reply to: Kester

I don't know how all of them, here or there, can look themselves in the mirror, after all the lies and concealment. I agree; WAY too many to all be releases. Even offspring wouldn't alone account for the numbers. Big cats are stealthy, and being sighted that often means there are quite a few.

Hybrids bred and released....does he say to what end? Interesting idea. None of the theories I have heard make any sense. The simplest solution is native large black cats. Why they try and complicate that, I can't imagine.

I could see that for the cougars. The can live and thrive in virtually any sort of terrain.

They have shown them further, but still won't admit they could be all over. When I was in high school, in San Antonio, the local museum had an exhibit of local fauna that included jaguars, but these days, they claim they haven't been there since way before then. I suspect the official statements can change according to whim.

Cats are smart. I have a cat right now that "tested" the AC vent. He walked over it, heard the sound chance, and stood at one end, sticking a single paw out to several places, to see what the sound did each one. I could see him dodging a camera if he wanted. They are animals, but they are predators,a nd that means a lot more intelligence.

a reply to: Kester

I didnt get chance to see the end, they both disappeared over a brow, to be fair we were doing about 70mph on uneven moor roads at the time.
Im convinced it was a cat, it was brown with a darker muzzle, it moved like a cat, was very fast like a cat and it had a long tail that was rounded and darker at the tip. It was completely focused on that hare as it didnt seem to get distracted by our car passing.

a reply to: Catch_a_Fire

The clearest sighting I've had was from a car doing 70 or just under. I was hitch hiking. I looked at the guy who'd given me a lift and thought, 'No, I don't tell this stranger I've just seen a black leopard. No telling how he'd react.'

The cat was walking in a field beside the M5 in clear sunlight about forty yards from the road. It took three or four steps then turned and looked towards me as if it was aware of being watched.

a reply to: LadyGreenEyes

Try this joker.
drdavidclarke.co.uk... "I am a senior lecturer in journalism at Sheffield Hallam University where I specialise in teaching media law and investigation skills." Excuse me, I need to make a quick trip to the bathroom before I embarrass myself laughing. It's this fool who taught me spooks teach journalism and that's why we see so little in the way of intelligent reporting. Notice his Serengeti comment relating to the most widespread and adaptable of all the big cat types. Not shoddy journalism, deliberate misdirection.

Hybrids. He doesn't say to what end but I do, very controversially. www.abovetopsecret.com...
If there's any chance hybrids are being released so the media can hype a threat as an excuse for curfews and armed patrols I wanted to expose that first. If I'm wrong, well, it's just entertainment. He knows the practicality of covertly breeding and releasing hybrids is absurd but it's the best he had come up with after years of intensive study. Absurd doesn't mean untrue.




Also on David 'The Spook' Clarke's page we have..."How many times have we been presented with dodgy UFO photos and ‘evidence’ (such as the notorious wind-farm propeller struck by an ET craft), that dissolves when placed under critical scrutiny." It's well known Dale Vince just said UFO as a joke. It was taken up by the media as a story to sell.

A few websites from the South-East,
bigcatsinsussex.webs.com...
kentbigcats.blogspot.co.uk...

I know three people who say they have seen them,one from about 40 years ago,the others about 5 to 10 years back.
Two of these people were quiet believable,the other chap I would believe 100%, he had multiple sightings including adult puma with cubs. Interestingly his sightings were near the Kent/Sussex border where there are now lots of Wild Boar. And when you've seen a big Alpha male Wild Boar from only 30 mts away,that's "interesting".

a reply to: Kester

The guy sounds like a complete twit. Typical of some skeptics; no real facts, lots of insults for the other side, and nothing intelligent to bring to the discussion. It would be nice if all managed to debate intelligently like a few do on this site!

Well, that's an interesting theory. The only problem I see there is that, if they wanted to use the cats as an excuse for armed patrols of curfews, they'd have to admit they were around first. Still, some rich guy doing something like that is certainly possible.

Any time a reporter starts comparing various mysteries that aren't related, it's clear their only goal is to make the story seem like a joke, so people ignore it.

a reply to: SussexMike

The Sussex link is very thoughtful, "...big cats have increased since the late "80,s only in step with the rise in deer and rabbit numbers and not to do with the escapes from captivity..." I agree with that.

I've never encountered a wild boar, though there are plenty in this area. 'Interesting' encounters can dramatically improve your ability to leap up and grab an overhanging branch... www.abovetopsecret.com...

a reply to: LadyGreenEyes

I don't think he's a twit or a skeptic. I think he's paid to attempt to manipulate general public perception. Others have identified him as a paid source of disinformation for different reasons.

I suspect they'd introduce a killer cat then answer the call to 'do something'. With all the other sightings it would only take one killer cat for all to be seen as a potential serious threat.

originally posted by: Kester
a reply to: LadyGreenEyes

I don't think he's a twit or a skeptic. I think he's paid to attempt to manipulate general public perception. Others have identified him as a paid source of disinformation for different reasons.

I suspect they'd introduce a killer cat then answer the call to 'do something'. With all the other sightings it would only take one killer cat for all to be seen as a potential serious threat.

Well, that's entirely possible. I don't really know him save from what you linked, so I will have to trust your perceptions there. A paid source means someone is telling him what to say, so we can apply the "twit" label to them, whoever they are. The reasons they would do such things are what interests me. Same for over here.

With all of the reported sightings, you'd think they could already respond to a call to "do something". No human deaths as of yet, but haven't enough animals been killed to cause people to demand something be done? A human death wouldn't seem easy to arrange, either, since there are so many of them over there, and no one has been attacked. Then there is the question of what exactly they would do, when asked to "do something". What purpose would be served? If they simply wanted to have more armed guys running around, I'd think terrorist threats would be an easier way to accomplish that.

a reply to: LadyGreenEyes

Here's David Clarke featured as The Scarecrow, one of the Wizards of M.O.D. This is not my subject but you can see I've commented under this video as underterraingrunter.

There have been attacks here. Possibly most of them have actually been defensive in the cats eyes. For example a guy in London who described himself as big and not a pushover was knocked down and pinned to the ground by a black leopard when he came out to see what was frightening his house cat. First responders saw it when they came to his aid.

There are several such stories, most with relatively minor injuries. The lady in Scotland who was bitten on the thigh drove herself to hospital. She won't discuss it now due to the shameful way she's been treated by people I won't name. They know who they are. I suspect she may have opened her car door straight into the cats face in the dark. I've heard of one attack resulting in serious injuries but that seems to be being suppressed, possibly for sound reasons.

You're right a fake terror threat would serve the purpose. We know far more about that than we would like to in our family. The manufacturing of fake terror is a profit driven industry like any other. Many plans have been put forward and even started over the decades.

originally posted by: Kester
a reply to: LadyGreenEyes
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There have been attacks here. Possibly most of them have actually been defensive in the cats eyes. For example a guy in London who described himself as big and not a pushover was knocked down and pinned to the ground by a black leopard when he came out to see what was frightening his house cat. First responders saw it when they came to his aid.

There are several such stories, most with relatively minor injuries. The lady in Scotland who was bitten on the thigh drove herself to hospital. She won't discuss it now due to the shameful way she's been treated by people I won't name. They know who they are. I suspect she may have opened her car door straight into the cats face in the dark. I've heard of one attack resulting in serious injuries but that seems to be being suppressed, possibly for sound reasons.

You're right a fake terror threat would serve the purpose. We know far more about that than we would like to in our family. The manufacturing of fake terror is a profit driven industry like any other. Many plans have been put forward and even started over the decades.

Well, I hadn't heard about those cases! Makes me wonder if there aren't such cases over here, that aren't reported. Very possible the cat felt threatened, I agree. Even so, big cats do attack people sometimes. Cougar attacks happen. Leopards attack people in Africa with some frequency. It seems odd that we don't have more attacks, all considered. Makes me wonder how many of these cats are some species not named, or a hybrid, as you discussed. Some unknown species could easily have different behavior.