The Bowe Bergdahl Conspiracy.

a reply to: KingIcarus

He wasn't a POW, as "America" is not wagging a war against any country in the middle east he deserted his post.

a reply to: Wrabbit2000


I agree with u wrabbit , but here is what baffling me .

Why haven't they prosecuted them?

I mean ones who were captured have to be guiltily of "terriorism" or terrorist acts out side their country.

Otherwise their detention is illegal.

But if their status is POW then that's a different story.

Imagine for a minute that let's say Russia came and started taking american mercenaries out of the US and held them captive on suspsion of terriorsim.

Just saying .. If they (the terrorist ) committed crimes in their own countrys well than their country needs to deal with them.


What's even worse is that the innocent detainee's are being subject to torture ..its sad really..

a reply to: LightningStrikesHere

Do you think that the 5 terrorist suspects released for the US deserter are innocent? they have not committed any crimes against humanity, their own people and the US?

originally posted by: marg6043
a reply to: LightningStrikesHere

Do you think that the 5 terrorist suspects released for the US deserter are innocent? they have not committed any crimes against humanity, their own people and the US?

No idea , I don't even know who they are let alone their crime ?

And I refuse to except any information from the MSM hype .

So I'll remain neutral on that .

a reply to: LightningStrikesHere

I think it will be a good ideal to actually research on the 5 and see how dangerous they were before their capture.

originally posted by: marg6043
a reply to: LightningStrikesHere

I think it will be a good ideal to actually research on the 5 and see how dangerous they were before their capture.

Why? I dont care ...

I am not defending them nor was I denying their terrioris conviction.

I was simply speaking out about the innocent Muslims that have been detained.

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originally posted by: LightningStrikesHere

originally posted by: marg6043
a reply to: LightningStrikesHere

Do you think that the 5 terrorist suspects released for the US deserter are innocent? they have not committed any crimes against humanity, their own people and the US?

No idea , I don't even know who they are let alone their crime ?

And I refuse to except any information from the MSM hype .

So I'll remain neutral on that .

Lol, and on page one you told another poster to educate themselves by watching YouTube.

originally posted by: LightningStrikesHere
Your ignorance on this subject is vast ..

I just proved you wrong about Vatican City.
Seems you are the one who has vast ignorance.

However NOT everyone in GITMO is a terrorist.

We are talking about these five terrorists ... and they ARE terrorists.
Read the information. Get educated.

a reply to: marg6043

The first irony of your post is that you could happily practice Christianity in the very vast majority of Muslim countries. There's 2.5m Christians in Pakistan, for instance... who go about their business almost entirely unmolested.

The second - and perhaps biggest - irony is that you think America is the only place where people are free. People are 'free' by American standards in the very vast majority of the world. There's barely any 'freedoms' that Americans enjoy that aren't shared by virtually everyone in the First World, and also much of the Developing. Some of the Third World too, if we're honest.

Most first world countries don't spy on their citizens quite as widely as America though.

originally posted by: LightningStrikesHere

originally posted by: marg6043
a reply to: LightningStrikesHere

I think it will be a good ideal to actually research on the 5 and see how dangerous they were before their capture.

Why? I dont care ...

I am not defending them nor was I denying their terrioris conviction.

I was simply speaking out about the innocent Muslims that have been detained.

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How do you know they are innocent? Did you get that info from the msm or YouTube?

originally posted by: thesaneone

originally posted by: LightningStrikesHere

originally posted by: marg6043
a reply to: LightningStrikesHere

Do you think that the 5 terrorist suspects released for the US deserter are innocent? they have not committed any crimes against humanity, their own people and the US?

No idea , I don't even know who they are let alone their crime ?

And I refuse to except any information from the MSM hype .

So I'll remain neutral on that .

Lol, and on page one you told another poster to educate themselves by watching YouTube.

Its obvious your reading comprehension skills need to be tuned up a little.

Once again I was referring to INNOCENT MUSLIMS BEING DETAINED AT GITMO.

This has happened many times .

I'll say it again for you just in case it was not clear . NOT EVERYONE AT GITMO ARE TERRORIST this is FACT ..savvy?

a reply to: thesaneone

I would probably argue that this deal isn't a good idea - albeit without knowing the ins and outs.

However - much like the POWs in Cuba suddenly being Enemy Combatants, I don't think America is shy of changing the terminology when it suits.

This deal was probably orchestrated with 'an important Afghan political faction' rather than with 'terrorists'.

originally posted by: thesaneone

originally posted by: LightningStrikesHere

originally posted by: marg6043
a reply to: LightningStrikesHere

I think it will be a good ideal to actually research on the 5 and see how dangerous they were before their capture.

Why? I dont care ...

I am not defending them nor was I denying their terrioris conviction.

I was simply speaking out about the innocent Muslims that have been detained.

?

How do you know they are innocent? Did you get that info from the msm or YouTube?

Yusef Abbas, 33, Saidullah Khalik, 37, and Hajiakbar Abdul Ghuper, 39,

Google it .. Educate your self ..

a reply to: LightningStrikesHere

So Google has the true answers, ok.

Oh and did you mean educate yourself?

You dont trade a Muslin convert deserter for 5 of the Taliban top guys without there being a hidden agenda. why is he so important????
Maybe the 5 guys were part of a bigger deal, but they used Bergdahl as a cover.

originally posted by: marg6043
a reply to: KingIcarus

He wasn't a POW, as "America" is not wagging a war against any country in the middle east he deserted his post.

Afghanistan isn't really in the Middle East and 'POW' refers to any enemy combatant who is held in custody during an armed conflict.

Bergdhal will have been 'arrested' by the correct authorities as some part of his capture - possibly by a corrupt official - but his formal arrest is part of the official process where America was informed that the Taliban was holding him. To assert authority, it was important that the Taliban are as 'legal' as possible.

Everyone who has ever been held at Guantanamo has been formally arrested.

a reply to: KingIcarus


Not sure who they made a deal with.


www.reuters.com...

originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: LightningStrikesHere
Your ignorance on this subject is vast ..

I just proved you wrong about Vatican City.
Seems you are the one who has vast ignorance.

However NOT everyone in GITMO is a terrorist.

We are talking about these five terrorists ... and they ARE terrorists.
Read the information. Get educated.

What exactly did you prove me wrong about ?
You said

In Vatican City it isn't illegal to practice religions other than Catholicism.
And people have equal rights.

And my general stance replying to another POSTER , was that in a county who Practices Sharia law , that in fact Christians and Jews are allowed to pratice their respective religions.

Then you jumped in with the above quote???

Let me enlighten you . Iran has a strong Jews community and the have been honored by the orthodox Jews of Israel for their support.

Iran lives by whacked out understand of sharia law .

Also did you know that the majority of "Sharia law" does not apply to non Muslims?
Exsept of course when it comes to rape / murder/ drugs....violence.



Yes you were taking about the "five terrorist " I however was not ?

originally posted by: thesaneone
a reply to: LightningStrikesHere

So Google has the true answers, ok.

Oh and did you mean educate yourself?

Yeah ... Its obvious you cant add a proper rebuttle so your going to resort to personal troll like attacks.


NEXT!

a reply to: LightningStrikesHere


quote "in fact Christians and Jews are allowed to pratice their respective religions. "

Yes u are correct,, they Islamist, even have a name for such citizens under allah.

Dhimmi


quote

"A dhimmī (Arabic: ذمي‎ ḏimmī IPA: [ˈðɪmmiː], collectively أهل الذمة ahl al-ḏimmah/dhimmah
“the people of the dhimma”)
is a historical[1] term referring to non-Muslim citizens
of an Islamic state.
Dhimma allows rights of residence in return for jizyah - tax collected from non-Muslims.
According to scholars, dhimmis had their rights fully protected in their communities,
but as citizens in the Islamic state,
had certain restrictions.

They were excused or excluded from specific duties assigned to Muslims,
did not enjoy certain political rights
reserved for Muslims,
and were subject to payment of a special tax
(jizyah), but were otherwise equal under the laws of property, contract and obligation."

unquote,,

so technically u are correct.
oh and dhimmi must submit to allah as well.
ya