British/English national anthem 'God Save the Queen' and citizens who do not believe in gods...

originally posted by: minusinfinity
It doesn't matter because the U.S.A National Anthem kicks ass.....


lmao.

I am glad you like the US National Anthem.

The melody for it is an old English drinking song

amhistory.si.edu...

a reply to: boymonkey74
How about last person standing at a drinking session at the pub, no less ridiculous than accident of birth, and at least everyone gets a chance.
...but then, would 'God save our binge drinker' really work...hmm.

a reply to: grainofsand

Thing is I tend to agree with the bloodline...just here me out.
None of us in our right minds would do what the Queen does she has been trained from birth to do that job (she does it with grace and decorum you can't diss that) and while yes she wants for nothing she is not free she is a slave to the people.
Also lets face it how many international incidents would we cause by being King lol.
They are the best people for the Job and I think Diana has made sure our future king will not be a bad one because it is also about loving their people and I think they sure do and want the best for us lot.
my tuppence anyhow ;D.

originally posted by: alldaylong
I am glad you like the US National Anthem.

The melody for it is an old English drinking song

That actually made me chuckle, got any links to the lyrics of the drinking song?

a reply to: grainofsand

Its next to it..here they are.

To Anacreon in Heaven, where he sat in full glee,
A few sons of harmony sent a petition,
That he their inspirer and patron would be;
When this answer arrived from the jolly old Grecian:
Voice, fiddle, and flute, no longer be mute,
I'll lend you my name and inspire you to boot
And besides I'll instruct you like me to intwine
The myrtle of Venus with Bacchus's vine.

a reply to: boymonkey74
Totally get where you're coming from but I do not share the same sentiments.
I agree, being monarch must be a very controlled job but they don't have to do it. Abdication is a choice, so while any monarch chooses to continue with the role they can not really bleat about it or expect sympathy.

But on-topic, can I ask do you genuinely wish for an invisible force/power/entity/god to protect the UK head of state when you sing the anthem?

originally posted by: alldaylong

originally posted by: minusinfinity
It doesn't matter because the U.S.A National Anthem kicks ass.....


lmao.

I am glad you like the US National Anthem.

The melody for it is an old English drinking song

amhistory.si.edu...

The irony is now England is our bitch.

originally posted by: boymonkey74
a reply to: grainofsand

Its next to it..here they are.

To Anacreon in Heaven, where he sat in full glee,
A few sons of harmony sent a petition,
That he their inspirer and patron would be;
When this answer arrived from the jolly old Grecian:
Voice, fiddle, and flute, no longer be mute,
I'll lend you my name and inspire you to boot
And besides I'll instruct you like me to intwine
The myrtle of Venus with Bacchus's vine.

Wow, deep lyrics for a drinking song...bit different to what I was singing at a rugby tour in Manchester a few weeks ago lol

originally posted by: minusinfinity

originally posted by: alldaylong

originally posted by: minusinfinity
It doesn't matter because the U.S.A National Anthem kicks ass.....


lmao.

I am glad you like the US National Anthem.

The melody for it is an old English drinking song

amhistory.si.edu...

The irony is now England is our bitch.

Ah...the Welsh, Scottish, and Northern Irish all breathe a sigh of relief!
...or did you mean Britain?

These are all very important prayers.
Especially the one about Marshall Wade.

a reply to: grainofsand

I don't think God works like that at all.
I watched a good documentary about when we lobbed off Charles I head and people were gob smacked that parliament would go against a king whom was anointed by God.
People thought God would smite them all afterwards but it didn't happen and I think people know that God has not given the Queen anything but the anthem was written a long time ago when Britain was a Christian country.
It's all just history pomp and pageant.
When I sing it I think God is the people of the UK..better way of thinking about it I suppose.

originally posted by: grainofsand

originally posted by: minusinfinity

originally posted by: alldaylong

originally posted by: minusinfinity
It doesn't matter because the U.S.A National Anthem kicks ass.....


lmao.

I am glad you like the US National Anthem.

The melody for it is an old English drinking song

amhistory.si.edu...

The irony is now England is our bitch.

Ah...the Welsh, Scottish, and Northern Irish all breathe a sigh of relief!
...or did you mean Britain?

LMAO.

None.

It was a joke.

a reply to: DISRAELI
But what about the UK citizens who don't believe that prayers actually do anything?

originally posted by: minusinfinity

originally posted by: alldaylong

originally posted by: minusinfinity
It doesn't matter because the U.S.A National Anthem kicks ass.....


lmao.

I am glad you like the US National Anthem.

The melody for it is an old English drinking song

amhistory.si.edu...

The irony is now England is our bitch.

Have you extradited Garry McKinnon yet?


And here is how a British MP makes the US Senate look like complete idiots. Enjoy:-

a reply to: boymonkey74
I still wouldn't sing it even thinking of god as the people.
I've signed government documents pledging to serve the monarchy in my life before now, civil and naval reserve, but it was a lie because I had to do it to follow my path. I pretended that serving the crown was serving the people so that justified signing it in my head.

a reply to: minusinfinity
Taken in good faith

Got to be honest I don't like any of the national anthems I have heard at football matches and usually end up gazing around with my mouth closed, wishing the ears were as well.

See the point made in this thread and have to admit to totally disagreeing with Boymonkey on this one. I have never thought that the anthem is anything else than to either end something or start it.

a reply to: grainofsand

If we didn't have the crown we would have a president...we would have to change so much so many laws government agencies etc.
Remember the Queen represents the people so you took an oath to protect the people.

Gotta catch the shop so nipping out and prob popping into a mates with a few cans so my thread management will be over for a bit, but please do continue sharing your thoughts here, it is an entertaining read so far.
Cheers folks

God save Barack Obama.