Most of us are programmed. And don't realize it.

We have a TV, It's nothing more than a Living room prop.

The interwebs are so much more interactive.

Commercials annoy the crap out if me, When they do get in my line of sight they die a quick death of volume going off or quickly being changed to something else entirely.

a reply to: username1

There is wisdom in your words. Your post will be difficult to read for many. Paragraph breaks would make it easier to read in a post so long.
I had the same recognition, at an early age, that many have limited cognition due to the tendency to think with language. It can be a trap. The map is not the territory.
Language definitely has its uses, and I appreciate the skilled use of it. If one is incapable of thinking without it, however, they are at a disadvantage to those who also have an ability to act from instinct.
I practice music and painting as tools to strengthen my contact with the subconscious. I do, however, think it is important to give attention to cultivating vocabulary. Language is a form of magic.

a reply to: SLAYER69

No doubt. Hey, have you seen that great Haverty's add that scrolls down, or the Best buy one at the top? (on ATS)

I think we are in this for the long haul. Advertising will be shoved at you no matter what you decide to do for fun.

I just felt a bit used when I had the urge to click the link. I am not supposed to be that guy.

a reply to: network dude

YES!

That is exactly how it is supposed to work. Everything from colors used to patterns, scene shifts, etc. have all been studied and optimized to make you want to buy, buy, buy!

It goes further than that though, its not solely about consumerism, but has been found exceedingly effective in steering public opinion on any given subject. If you present it in a way that both the positive and negative response further your own cause, then that is how it will be done.

Getting rid of your TV wont do anything, thats a bit of naivete..

Figuring out how to "think for yourself" is the way out. Of course, that is something that everyone thinks they do already, but that just makes them easier to control. It is good to see you have the honesty with yourself to see it in action. Every single one of us is susceptible, straight up. There is a reason so much money has been spent on marketing research and its affiliated fields. It was considered to have the best ROI until derivatives become popular.

Yes, Yes.....

The most sure fire way to actually be able to see the extent one is programmed is to become completely deprogrammed and actually live to tell the story.

I had a nearly fatal stroke when I was just shy of 40 years old and had to relearn almost everything I knew, a lot of the things I knew before the stroke like memories and school came back eventually but things were just never the same.

I still have that "reflexive thinking" thing going on sometimes, jumping to conclusions occasionally, but now I can see when that is happening and put a stop to it when it starts.

Nothing has ever been quite the same color it was before since then.

In my mind's eye sometimes things are burnt and charred and singed around the edges like something that was in a fire but not directly touched by the flames, melted and deformed but still functional like my mind and my life have become.

Drain Bamage....

a reply to: MyHappyDogShiner

That's pretty amazing. You took a big negative and turned it into a big positive.

I guess I thought I was above the influence, but find myself doing exactly as I am supposed to at times.
You need to be a pretty strong person to break free from the influence.

That's great that you were able to recover and come out stronger.

One of the things that drives me absolutely crazy now is advertisements on TV.

I literally start to feel the need to escape from anything that is saturated with advertisements including people hawking at flea markets and carnivals and billboards even bug me sometimes.

I spend a lot of time pedaling my bike around out in the woods down here in Florida to escape the ads, and then people I don't know start conversations with me and I can hear the conditioning in their speech mannerisms.

I occasionally bring these mannerisms up and we discuss the origins of them and they are nearly always from TV or some Military or job jargon...

What does it mean?, What does it mean, WHAT DOES IT MEAN!!!!!!!.....

Aaaaaaaaaggghhhhhhhhhhhhhh.....

a reply to: network dude

a reply to: MyHappyDogShiner

Have you started looking "down" at the people you perceive to be programmed yet? Or even felt little "tugs" in that direction?

Thats the next step in that line of "code."

a reply to: skunkape23

i see you didn't take up my advice not to enforce the laws of language. as i said, all standards, laws, and taboos, are designed to make words more powerful.
language is the basis of magic. today's languages are what i'd call "magical languages", where there are many symbols for things that do not exist in the five senses, thus detached from reality. all of philosophy is word-based reasoning. it's preposterous. it's not that it can be a trap, it's that it is dividing your mind with its symbols. it is having you think in ways you wouldn't otherwise. "magic" requires a "magic circuit". an operating system. to attach words to things is a concept in itself. i speculate a truly natural language would be simple yet rich sounds/facial+body language used to convey all that's needed for relating to like beings. anything more sophisticated is only needed by the service of knowledge. and at the end of the day, men just want the natural life. further, to represent a tree with a symbol, you've separated it from the forest. to represent the "self" with a symbol, you've separated yourself. all man is schizophrenic in this way. he talks to himself and there is a schism that forms the conscious thoughts. if you ever want to escape the magician's chessboard, you need be able to exist in the unconscious at all times. to make the mind whole by riding it of illusionary divisions.

a reply to: VoidHawk

Yeah, I did and I tend to be really very practical to boot. It was very unusual for me to do that but the amount of pressure and the little magnifying mirror stunt left me feeling like I needed to do something more when I really didn't. Who walks around looking at people's faces with a magnifying glass? Nobody (except maybe serious weirdos lol).

That's exactly what I was thinking, Voidhawk. I have young daughter who is growing up quickly and my concern was exactly that--that advertising would affect her perception of herself and how she looked. I ended up talking to her about marketing and photoshopping, showing her examples and getting her to look at them critically. Then we purged it all. Just last night, she was talking to me about girls at her school that were stick thin and how sickly they looked. She's a healthy weight herself, very pretty girl, but she's not "model thin". She knew her weight was just as it should be and that her weight was more attractive than being "stick thin". She still gets influenced by peer pressure but her view of herself is very positive. I'm pretty sure I made the right call. The only exposure that she has encountered so far with advertising has been to view it critically. I've done this with both of my kids.

Neither of them feel the need to have iphones or ipads either....

a reply to: username1

That sounds a little extreme. Are you proposing that we become as a child that has been raised by a pack of wolves? There has to be a balance. How am I supposed to tell a bartender what kind of beer I want? Point and grunt?

a reply to: network dude

Interestingly enough, it also has intruded the last entertainment fortress against television advertising--video gaming. There are some games out there that have individual or group hosted servers where they can now broadcast advertisements to you when you join their server. The servers get some amount of revenue to help pay for the hosting costs for doing it. It's actually had a really interesting reception with a number of gamers really disliking it and avoiding those servers utilizing it. That's good, I think.

originally posted by: Arken

originally posted by: VoidHawk
a reply to: network dude

Take your tv out into the yard and set fire to it. Problem solved.

No other words..... no other words...

Stars for you!

Hi Arken.
When I first started posting on ats I'd occasionally say something like "Throw your tv out", but it never ever went down very well, but I think more people are waking up to how much it influences their lives.

It makes me laugh sometimes when people come onto ats and ridicule us for the threads we create, and yet they'll happily sit in front of that box that spews out an endless stream of lies and distorted half truths.

Keep those Mars pics coming, many of on ats enjoy them

originally posted by: WhiteAlice
Neither of them feel the need to have iphones or ipads either....

I know there'll be a lot of people on here that wont want to hear this.
About a year ago I suffered from bouts of blurred vision and dizziness. Many visits to the doctors found nothing wrong with me. Eventually I realised these problems always happened the day after a long conversation on my mobile phone, so I started using the speaker phone mode.
Several months later no blurred vision or dizziness. So I tried holding it to my ear again wondering if the problems would come back, and they did!
I went back to my doctor and told him what I'd discovered and I asked him if he'd ever heard of this before, he looked very uncomfortable with my question, then asked me if I used a phone at work, I told him yes, he then handed me a certificate stating that I'm sensitive to RF and I should show it to my employer. He then told me to tell my employer to get me a hands free set (I'm an HGV driver) as using the phone could cause dizziness while I'm driving!

About a week ago a friend at work showed me an article in his news paper.

With 70 million mobile phones in the UK, it's news that will make us all think twice about how much we use them.

This week, research concluded that just half an hour spent on your mobile every day could raise your risk of developing brain cancer by as much as 40 per cent.

the £15 million, decade-long study was carried out on more than 5,000 men and women with brain tumours from 13 different countries, as well as a similar number of healthy people, all of whom were interviewed about their phone habits.

Source
British scientists have said that the study was flawed, but that doesn't necessarily mean the results are wrong.

originally posted by: WhiteAlice
Neither of them feel the need to have iphones or ipads either....

Keep them away from them for as long as you can.

edit on 30-5-2014 by VoidHawk because: (no reason given)

a reply to: VoidHawk

They actually have no interest them at all after watching their peers and well, the rest of the planet using them. My daughter was actually really distressed because her dad wanted to get her an iPhone for her upcoming birthday and she really did not want one. Go figure. The level of misuse and abuse that they witness their peers and total strangers doing with cell phones stuns them a lot....like people almost getting hit by cars and whatnot. Zero interest for my kids, lol. They're those freaky kids watching you all because their noses AREN'T buried in cellphones! lol



Do you ever get crap for being RF sensitive? I have issues wifi personally and my utility company tested me. If I complain about the noise that some places give off to anybody but my mother, fiance or kids, I get looked at like I'm nuts.

originally posted by: WhiteAlice
a reply to: VoidHawk

Do you ever get crap for being RF sensitive? I have issues wifi personally and my utility company tested me. If I complain about the noise that some places give off to anybody but my mother, fiance or kids, I get looked at like I'm nuts.

Yep.
Luckily I'm not the type to be bothered by what others think, in fact its often a source of amusement for me

It did cause a serious problem for me when I had a spell of unemployment though. The staff at the unemployment office demanded I give them my mobile number, so rather than trying to explain the problem I simply said I don't own one.
They offered to buy one for me!!!
They said if I refuse to have a mobile phone then I'm making myself unavailable for work because I might miss a call from a potential employer!

So, I had to explain the whole RF sensitive thing to them, and they said; and I quote-
"There must be something wrong with your head, have you sought treatment?"
Thats the gods honest truth, they actually said that to me!
When I picked my jaw up from the floor I asked them if they seriously expected me to get my brain altered so that I could use a mobile phone, and the lady said "could you get some pills or something?"
I demanded to see her manager and she immediately ended the conversation.

I had originally intended to create a thread about that, but when I thought about it I doubted many would believe it, but its the truth.

When I first realised my problems were caused by the phone I done a lot of googling and discovered there's millions of people who suffer from RF related problems. They've done a very good job of keeping it out of the main stream!

Void.

a reply to: VoidHawk

lol that is a hilariously horrible story, Voidhawk. I'm so sorry (as I laugh about it--sorry!). My little issue with wifi became a subject of discourse for my neighbors as a good chunk of them either don't work or work from home. They, of course, spotted the several utility guys coming over and doing something odd with me, which prompted questions about what was going on. They're very nosy. So there I was explaining to them that I apparently could hear wifi. If it weren't for the fact that they saw the company replacing the meter on my house and doing all that they did, I'm pretty sure that my neighbors would have thought I was crazy. As it were, it was 20 question time about what it sounded like, when did it go off and did I know what they were transmitting nightly? To the last one, I had to explain that it was just a high pulsing sound that I heard and I couldn't comprehend encrypted data being transmitted. To tie this back into the original discussion, I'm pretty sure that they watch too much tv if they thought I could somehow understand such a communication like that kid from Heroes who talks to electronics.

Flash forward to the 4th of July and I was the resident freak neighbor that could "hear wifi". Yep, that's right. My secret identity was out--Wifi Woman was revealed. The funny part is now I'm also known to be the computer expert on the block. Do you think the two are related? lol

So yes, it is hilarious, isn't it?

a reply to: network dude

Yes we are programmed, psychologically and technically. It is a fact that population control was administered by a name I forget, only limiting our vocabulary to 400 words on average.

Now the big fact. Americans have been human experimented on and might not be able to read, write, and talk without the assistance of a Direct Energy Weapon on their heads.

Everyone is detailed. Everyone is under some sort of control. This control is by ground, air, and space weapons. Abuse occurs by rogue agencies (maybe even the Department of Homeland Security itself). This is the time we turn into gangstalking victims. Research Project Paperclip. That is where is all starts. "Unusual Microwave Weapons" were described decades ago. all created by Nazi infiltrators by the help of a Joint Intelligence Program in the United States (when the USA did not need a soviet ally anymore).

I was looking for a psychiatrist since that is the best local police or federal authorities can tell us to do. And on yelp an Army psychological officer spilled his beans and stated that his job was to teach people to get people into thinking what a side wants (hopefully ours).

Pharmaceutical Warfare and Human Willpower is all we have for the moment. If Project MKULTRA and ARTICHOKE breaks and a leak is found including the topics quantum physics, no touch torture, satellite harassment, electromagnetic and electric harassment (a Michigan Law), we may be able to survive this fascist movement for the Long-Term.

The United States pretends to be a democracy. You know why? Because I can't even have a period to myself to think without mind technology disrupting my thought; and we are supposed to be built upon freedom of liberty, consciousness, and thought.

There is an Evil out there. People beware. They are not so secretive enough to avoid peer to peer communication regarding similar situations, creating the thousands of web pages complaining about the same phenomenon. Such as MindJustice.org. I plan on making one after I FOIA the sh*t out of this government with the correct keywords.

One person can save us all! Be brave and stay safe at the same time.

originally posted by: network dude
I see adds for ammunition, and I think, I don't have enough. I need more.

We see news that they want to take our guns, so we think, I need to buy some more before I can't.

I say we, but I mean I. I hadn't realized it, but it just kind of hit me. I was thinking of that movie "conspiracy Theory" . I don't feel the need to go buy "catcher in the rye", but it's not far off.

The big question, is that what's supposed to happen? Am I falling for the tricks?

This is an interesting theory. However, even though I do believe the goal is totalitarianism gun confiscation and psychological abuse by the state, I do not own a single gun, I do not own any ammunition and I have no plans to buy any.

This is not to say people cannot be conditioned to behave a certain way but I believe for the most part, people give themselves over to conditioning voluntarily. Even though they may not acknowledge it, they know what they're doing.

Also, if you don't believe the gun grabbers are real, you need to encounter some of them. I have talked to people who believe with all their hearts that every gun in civilian hands should be confiscated. And they will tell you that flat out without hesitation.

These are not people who sit around and talk idly about what they believe. These people are politically active. They vote. They write and sign petitions. They demonstrate. They write letters to their elected representatives. Banning guns is a religion to these people. It's not a fantasy dreamed up by the NRA or someone.

If you don't believe it, read some liberal forums. Those places are infested with people who hate freedom. Period.