Monsanto’s Roundup Found in 75% of Air and Rain Samples

originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: Baddogma

True, that traditional farming methods hasn't a hope of feeding the swarming masses... and Monsanto has been instrumental in increasing yield, but using highly toxic, long stable compounds that saturate everything is not a solution in the long term.

Says a group of people who want to turn the agriculture industry back to the 'stone age'.

That is motivated by a political agenda.

Monsanto isn't the only GMO producer, or pesticide producer in the world.

Stopping the use of GMO & RoundUp and using other methods for mass food production, doesn't mean taking a step backwards for the agriculture industry. Aquaponic food farms (even hydroponic food farms) are far from a step backwards & a zillion times better than gmo/roundup.

yes other companies produce gmo & roundup but Monsanto is the creator. Monsanto created roundup, crops died, Monsanto started to GM crops

a reply to: oneupShadow

Because the masses care more about the Kanye West marriage than they care about their air, water and food quality. Have another Big Mac and Diet Coke with me and watch the world burn.

Perhaps these same people would do this if they were told to...

I pride myself in growing veggies free of pesticides, but who am I kidding? It doesn't matter that I personally don't
spray poison on my food, it's done for me. From the neighbor who sprays poisonous weed killer that leaches into my
well so that my family drinks toxic water and my garden gets watered with the same water to the crap that is in the air,
and the rainwater. You can't get away from it. Why don't I have a choice whether or not I want poison in my food and water????

Here is a thought go talk to farmers.

Neo,
Been there, did that. Six large scale farmers in our area. Every one of them is concerned about what is going in the ground and our wells. Did you know that in some communities, farmers are only offered round up ready seeds? No choice given.

There is a current push right now by the local farmers, to the mills, to at least offer natural, or organic seeds. Why is that graineries aren't even given choices, when customers are asking for them?

Farmers today, at least around here, have evolved. They do know smarter, more economical ways of farming, than the folks from the 30's. And when a farmer tells me, they know there is a problem, I listen. And the older ones, who are now questioning some of their health issues, after using some of these chemicals for 30 years? It makes me wonder as well.

I don't say it is just Monsanto. But they sure spend the most money, telling everyone everything is safe, and buying officials.

Why is that?

Interesting findings. I lived in the Mississippi Delta for a couple of years and I can tell you for an area of such low population cancer rates are extremely high. This is a poor demographic area with a high minority concentration that is almost entirely an agricultural region.

Here is an article from 2011 dealing with cancer rates in the area. Cancer not Dying in the Delta

The study, published Dec. 7 in the medical journal Cancer, used data collected from 2001-2006 to analyze trends of cancer deaths and new cancer diagnoses. Data for the study was obtained from the National Cancer Institute. According to the Department of Health, Mississippi ranked fourth in cancer mortality in 2005.

This is a state with a population of 2.98 mil.

Then again Mississippi has the highest obesity rate and according to the article 3 of the 5 most obese counties in the nation are in the delta. Not to mention lack of healthcare education and nutritional support so there are many factors at work here. Then again it almost sounds like eugenics

originally posted by: InverseLookingGlass
a reply to: Corruption Exposed

Would Monsanto benefit from a Libertarian led US government? I'm reading they would like to eliminate the EPA and FDA. Rand Paul has talked a little about this.

I wonder when corporates really start getting behind Libertarian candidates? Ayn Rand would not have a problem drinking Roundup. The strong would survive.

don't throw the baby out with the bath water..

however.. those 2 agencies need DRAMATIC retooling and public oversight !!!

originally posted by: chiefsmom

Here is a thought go talk to farmers.

Neo,
Been there, did that. Six large scale farmers in our area. Every one of them is concerned about what is going in the ground and our wells. Did you know that in some communities, farmers are only offered round up ready seeds? No choice given.

There is a current push right now by the local farmers, to the mills, to at least offer natural, or organic seeds. Why is that graineries aren't even given choices, when customers are asking for them?

Farmers today, at least around here, have evolved. They do know smarter, more economical ways of farming, than the folks from the 30's. And when a farmer tells me, they know there is a problem, I listen. And the older ones, who are now questioning some of their health issues, after using some of these chemicals for 30 years? It makes me wonder as well.

I don't say it is just Monsanto. But they sure spend the most money, telling everyone everything is safe, and buying officials.

Why is that?

I live in a valley and there used to be tons of farming going on. Now most of them have stopped farming. Why? GMO/RoundUp. If they are able to receive seeds that are non GMO, their crops get contaminated by GMO products from other farmers in the area. In order to keep themselves for getting sued for their products getting contaminated, they have just shut down their farms.

The other interesting thing to note about a valley with a lot of farming is that there is a HUGE amount of children in this valley that are ill. Usually a form of cancer or an auto-immune disease. There is so much sick children that they are going to be building a children's hospital & they have a special children's hospice house. Now is it coincidence that there is lots of farming & lots of sick kids? I think not, I think they are tied together. Run off from the farms get into our drinking water, creeks & lakes (especially cause the creek runs out into the lakes).

When we first moved to the valley in 1995, my parents would allow my siblings & I to play in the creek in our backyard. My Parents are from the Kootenays, the glacier water running through the area was not contaminated so they didn't think anything about the creek in our backyard. For two summers us kids would play in the creek and two summers later my younger sister (aged 5 at the time) got very sick & was diagnosed with the auto-immune disease Sjogren's Syndrome. Two years later my Mom almost died because she had Crohn's super bad & the doctors weren't doing anything. In 2007 I started having health problems & they still don't fully know what is wrong with me. My older sister also has Shingles but is lucky to have never had a flare up.

We need to smarten up & stop using harmful chemicals. It is NOT needed!!! Aquanponic food farms & hydroponic food farms are the solution!!!!!!

originally posted by: InverseLookingGlass
a reply to: Corruption Exposed

Ayn Rand would not have a problem drinking Roundup. The strong would survive.

The strong will survive but with enough ailments that they will continue paying for the cures which are the other side of the money making empire. Get them sick, get them medicated, keep them sick, keep them medicated. $$

If that is true why do I have weeds in the cracks of my driveway?

originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: Baddogma

but making it less about profits and more about long term goals and health would point us towards enclosed hydroponic high yield complexes, for instance, where toxins wouldn't be necessary.

I am here to say 1930 yields can't and will never pay for current land prices, or machinery costs, or fuel costs or keep pace with future growth.

Profit is already small for agriculture.

The only things that is sustaining agriculture is gmo, and 'roundup'.

Take either or away and that is also she wrote.

The only difference is we will be eating gmo and food that has been dosed with pesticides from Sygenta, and the runner up IMPORTED from elsewhere.

Aquaponic food farms & hydroponic food farms would produce way more crops than the 1930 farming techniques. An Aquaponic farm of 2 acres with 12 greenhouses in the east us produces enough food to feed 2000 people a year.

User awakentired created this thread about it: Food for the masses: Aquaponics you can do in your own home

Thinking GMO & RoundUp is the only way to feed everyone, you are sadly wrong & ignorant. Please do lots of research on hydroponics & aquaponics.

a reply to: neo96

Especially the source:

'EcoWatch' eh !

LOL man ecowatch wasn't even the source of the study.

If you would have bothered to read three words into the OP you would have realized that the source of the study is... www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...

US National Library of Medicine National Institutes of Health

Is that a good enough source for you turbo?

a reply to: Corruption Exposed

US National Library of Medicine National Institutes of Health

Why the eff would anyone believe anything they have to say ?

Been pretty much established that the US government its 'agencies' are the most corrupt entities on the globe.

But hey who CARES!

right.

a reply to: neo96

Is Monsanto the only source that you will accept as credible?

originally posted by: Corruption Exposed
a reply to: neo96

Is Monsanto the only source that you will accept as credible?

Sorry don't accept any sources that cry about Monsanto or gmo or pesticides.

Because of a link that was already introduced and IGNORED because it doesn't fit the false narrative of the thread.

Here it is again.

Just for snips and giggles.

Syngenta AG is a global Swiss agribusiness that markets seeds and agrochemicals. Syngenta is involved in biotechnology and genomic research. It was formed in 2000 by the merger of Novartis Agribusiness and Zeneca Agrochemicals. The company was ranked third in total seeds and biotechnology sales in 2009 in the commercial market.[2] Sales in 2013 were approximately US$ 14.7 billion. Syngenta employs over 28,000 people in over 90 countries. Over half of the sales are in Emerging Markets.[1] Syngenta is listed on both the Swiss stock exchange and in New York.[1]

en.wikipedia.org...

What ?

28000 thousand employees eh ?

That is 8000 more than Monsanto.

Has a comparable gross revenue.

Has more of a 'profit'.

Sells the same thing to even where China doesn't like them very much:

The National Grain and Feed Association (NGFA) estimated in a report that rejections of shipments containing Syngenta AG's Agrisure Viptera corn resulted in losses of at least $1 billion, based on an economic analysis that included data supplied by top global grain exporters.

www.huffingtonpost.com...

I missed where it said anything about evil 'Monsanto'.

The evil evil 'Monstanto' that really doesn't 'create' jacksnip the buy what someone else thought up.

Another day, another thread screaming them evil corporations are killing people, and destroying the planet again!.

This would be hilarious if it wasn't so effing sad.

For a group of people who claim to fame is the belief in 'science' has done a 180, and have become 'science deniers'.

I hate to break it to everyone, but since the dawn of agriculture all over the globe mankind has ALWAYS 'genetically' modified their food source because mother nature doesn't cut it.

The only thing that has changed, and will continue to change is the level of sophistication.

a reply to: neo96

You wonder why people pick on Monsanto?

Oooooooh poooorrrrrr Monsantooooooo!

Here is proof of the US government and Monsanto collaborating together, from their own site.

This is from the 60s but as they evolved they became worse with the likes of Donny Rumsfeld.

More than 40 years ago, Agent Orange was one of 15 herbicides used by the U.S. military as a defoliant in the Vietnam War to protect and save the lives of U.S. and allied soldiers. It was a unique mixture of two common herbicides (2,4-D and 2,4,5-T ) that had been used separately in the United States since the late 1940s. The government named the mixture “Agent Orange” because of the orange band that was painted on containers of the material.

From 1965 to 1969, the former Monsanto Company was one of nine wartime government contractors who manufactured Agent Orange. The government set the specifications for making Agent Orange and determined when, where and how it was used. Agent Orange was only produced for, and used by, the government.

www.monsanto.com...

Monsanto, such a great group of people, now I see why you defend them no matter the case.

/sarcasm

a reply to: Corruption Exposed

You wonder why people pick on Monsanto?

Gee and to think all people have to do is grow their own food.

'Problem' sovled.

But that would involve too much work, it is much easier to drive to walmart and pull it from a shelf.

Funny how no one is made to buy monsanto products.

Because if they were 'organic' and Syngenta wouldn't exist.

We done here ?

OR just want to argue for the sake of it?

The 'majority' says everyone should hate Monsanto !

Alrightie then evil Monstanto!

Down with science!

a reply to: neo96

All you do is ignore facts being provided to you by multiple people. So damn ignorant. This is the last time I responded because if you still don't get it buy know, you are willfully staying ignorant

Yes we are being forced to eat GMO food because we don't have labels to tell us that the product contains GMO. If GMO was good, companies would have no problem with a label saying there is GMO on it.

I don't know about you but I live in an apartment so I can not grow my own food. Most people live in an area where they can't grow their own food. Even if I lived in a house, I can't grow wheat, corn, veggies, fruits & raise cattle, pigs & chickens. Its not about being lazy, its the fact that there is not enough room for each household to grow their own food.
Plus in the U.S, many people who grew their own food, had their crops destroyed.

cross-breeding and the GMO that Monsanto & other companies also, is COMPLETELY Different!

Everyone hates Monsanto cause they are the ass holes who created it on the first place because RoundUp (another wonderful product they invented) was killing crops.

Aquaponic/hydroponic is the way to safely feed everyone around the world with abundance! No poison required!

a reply to: Margana

All you do is ignore facts being provided to you by multiple people.

That's what she does, we might as well accept it and get used to it.

a reply to: neo96
*Shakes my head*

I hate to break it to everyone, but since the dawn of agriculture all over the globe mankind has ALWAYS 'genetically' modified their food source because mother nature doesn't cut it.

Please tell me you do see the HUGE difference between cross breeding two natural plants to get a better plant, and injecting a seed with whatever you think will make it better?

And honestly, hey, I'm happy if you want to keep eating that crap. I will stick to growing my own.