Alien technology question?

Some people say that our technology is progressing so fast that were getting closer and closer to alien technology, now if aliens and thier technology is superior to our technology wouldn't they be able to push the limits to thier technology faster than we can?and is it possible that all of those flying saucers that were seen over the past 50 years can't be seen anymore because they progressed thier technology to the point where we can't see them anymore?

Just curious what you guys think

Let's think about what you are saying for a minute.

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Ok. This is the problem. First of all, what do you classify as "alien technology". Secondly, if you can imagine it, then it has already existed at one point in time, or will exist at one point in the future.

Therefore, the moral of this lesson is the all things are infinite, and ideas and theoretical speculations will continue as long as intelligent species continue to dominate this planet, i.e. - humans.

Alien technology cannot be "standardized" or compartmentalized into any specific league of it's own, because why? If you still have to ask yourself that question, then my efforts to enlighten you have all been in vain.

It's been a pleasure.


Mr. M

My personal belief is that the aliens have progressed to a point where their development is a long time coming. Biologically they may progress, but I think that they have developed their technology to the point that "suits" them. In addition we are researching science in all aspects, and we may be playing quick game of catchup. However our technology may only be one of a three sided coin, the others being mental and spiritual development which we are still rather primative.

Thats my opinion on the situation.

Originally posted by StarChild
Let's think about what you are saying for a minute.

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Ok. This is the problem. First of all, what do you classify as "alien technology". Secondly, if you can imagine it, then it has already existed at one point in time, or will exist at one point in the future.

Therefore, the moral of this lesson is the all things are infinite, and ideas and theoretical speculations will continue as long as intelligent species continue to dominate this planet, i.e. - humans.

Alien technology cannot be "standardized" or compartmentalized into any specific league of it's own, because why? If you still have to ask yourself that question, then my efforts to enlighten you have all been in vain.

It's been a pleasure.


Mr. M

Hey ,I'm just asking a few questions for the sake of coversation, if you want to talk Sh1t to me for that, then please enlighten one of the other poor souls in another forum.Speculative talk exists from time to time andwill exist at one point in the future.

The Pleasure was mine!

I agree with Sigma. I think physical technology, like the physical world, has it's limits. However, spiritual evolution, is unlimited and infinite. A very advanced alien race would be able to do anything with a single thought.

I do not believe our technology is as advanced as an interstellar alien race. While, we may have reverse engineered some alien technology, like anti gravity, nanotechnology and DNA biotechnology, they are still most likely very crude and primitive in comparison.

A civilization's economy and productivity are very important for technological advancement. As we can see, US is trillions in debt because of it's black projects. That is because, it is essentially involved in an interstellar arms race, with a civilization thousands/millions of years advanced. Who have built up the economy and productive capacity to allow cheap mass-production of their technology, not on just a terrestrial scale, but on a galactic scale.

You can expect such vast inequality as generating anti-matter laser beams from the size of an alien pistol for an equivalant cent, compared to us, where we need miles wide particle accelerators and trapping chambers to manufacture anti-matter at $63 trillion per gram.

So, it would be foolish to believe we are anywhere close to advanced aliens.

Originally posted by Sigma
My personal belief is that the aliens have progressed to a point where their development is a long time coming. Biologically they may progress, but I think that they have developed their technology to the point that "suits" them. In addition we are researching science in all aspects, and we may be playing quick game of catchup. However our technology may only be one of a three sided coin, the others being mental and spiritual development which we are still rather primative.

Thats my opinion on the situation.

Very interesting,I never thought of the spirtual part of it, for all we know they "the aliens" could already have the answers to the questions that we ask ourselves everyday like how come were here?,what happens to us when we die?,is there a God? questions that we've been asking ourselves for thousands of years without finding answers to and it actually seems the more we gain technologically the more we lose spiritualually.

you sound like an inteligent person unlike some on here. anyway, i think whatever race/species were in those craft they began to realize the paranoia they caused here and they geered there technology more twords becoming more difficult to see.
because unfortunatley our society is to close minded to accept the possibility that we are from another life form. due to religious beliefs. as far as our technology i think we are so far behind it's pathetic; because we are to busy trying to kill each other for stupid reasons such as religion, money, oil. if we were a collective society and we all seeked to better ourselves in this life and not worry about the afterlife we would be a society thats many times more advanced than we are now. i have a vision of a borg like race but also has individuality and compassion.

The way i see it is, the better your technology, the faster you create new technology, therefore we could never hope to catch up with a race already far in advance of ourselves without a little help from them. They"supposedly" crash land in roswell, we suddenly start making quite major tech breakthroughs.

Now i'm neither a believer or a non believer in Alien life, but it fascinates me on how some technology is suddenly "created" with no real reason given on how

Double Post; see below.

[edit on 18-2-2005 by Off_The_Street]

Now i'm neither a believer or a non believer in Alien life, but it fascinates me on how some technology is suddenly "created" with no real reason given on how

Which technology would that be?

"Some people say that our technology is progressing so fast that were getting closer and closer to alien technology."

Well, I don't know what "alien technology" is, and neither does anyone else on this forum. As far as I'm concerned, trying to compare "our" technology with some other technology which may not even exist is an exercise in futility.

If, now, you want to assume that there are Spaceship Guys out there, and they have a certain level of technology (which makes sense, or else they wouldn't be Spaceship Guys), your question is still moot. This is because our asymptotic-curve advance in technology makes sense, and would happen whether or not there were Spaceship Guys hiding in the woods and Area 51.

It's not that our geniuses are not getting smarter; it's that we can communicate our discoveries better nowadays, thanks to the alphabet, the printing press, the spread of education, and now the computer-based technology epitomized by -- you guessed it -- the Internet.

Back when the first really big inventions were being made -- agriculture, the wheel, and an alphabet -- there was no way that such a discovery could be passed on. It could've been five to ten thousand years between the time that one of those three inventions were made and the time when they were universally adopted. For example, the Western Hemisphere natives didn't ever discover the wheel except as a toy; imagine how different the world might be if the ancestos of the Maya, Toltec, and Inca had an additional 5000 years worth of technology in the form of the wheel under their belt when Ericksson or Columbus came a-callin'!!

The invention of the alphabet helped some, of course; because knowledge and thus technology could be handed down instead of having to be re-invented and re-re-invented. And the printing press made that technology transfer available to a lot more people, as did the rise of the modern University system and the development of the computer and Internet.

Nowadays, a scientist can do a search of all the relevant (and some of the not-so-relevant) data sources on a particular thingamajig and move the research forward without having to do the experiments over and over again. He no longer needs to hear gossip at a faculty party or spend hours and hours poring through the increasing number of tech journals.

The bottom line is that we're not necessarily getting smarter, we're getting more efficient.

So even if Spaceship Guys handing their technology down to Earth guys actually exist (and I don't think they do), they're not needed.

We're doing just fine by ourselves, thank you very much.

Which alien technology are we talking about here?

Secondly, if you can imagine it, then it has already existed at one point in time, or will exist at one point in the future.

i can imagine an invisible dysonsphere. do you think it will ever be build?


btw i think ai will bring heaven on earth. machines that invent new technologies at an ever growing rate will bring humankind immortality and find answers to all the questions there are. think about it, it is nearly inevitable. extinction is the only logical alternative. but if we get to the point to create ai we will also be able to handle its dangers.


[edit on 18-2-2005 by feyd rautha]

What looks or seems Alien is all relative to were you are from and when you were born. I would imagine that if you went back in time 100 yrs and
brought the first person you could grab off the street back to Mainstreet, Anytown, USA , present day, they would probably think that everything around them was alien. My problem with the whole reverse engineering of captured Alien technology theory is this, if they are suppose to be so much further advanced than we are, then it would be imposible for us to duplicate what we do not understand. Their technology would be eons
above anything that we are capable off. It just doesn't make sense to me that we could somehow figure out how they make their ships fly, how they communicate, how they do this or that. Give modern man some credit for
the technology we have today. Suppose you could give a computer to a person who lived a thousand years ago, even if they managed to get it apart, they would not have any idea what it is much less be able to make it work. The products and knowledge needed to make that computer did not even exist at that time. This then is the problem with reverse engineering and the idea of alien technology. We might have it but we surely wouldn't know how to use it!

The alien tech you see around in ufos has reached a platue.
once you learn every thing you level off in tech, so they could not increase as we do in tech cause we are still reaching that platue.

with that said tech does increase but at a much slower rate than ours at this point in time.
and who said we dont see ufos now?
there is actually an increase not decrease in sightings since 50 years ago. FYI

[edit on 18-2-2005 by lizzardsamok]

Originally posted by lizzardsamok
The alien tech you see around in ufos has reached a platue.
once you learn every thing you level off in tech, so they could not increase as we do in tech cause we are still reaching that platue.

with that said tech does increase but at a much slower rate than ours at this point in time.
and who said we dont see ufos now?
there is actually an increase not decrease in sightings since 50 years ago. FYI

[edit on 18-2-2005 by lizzardsamok]

Yorga, you have a good point, but, would the alien technology really be as far advanced that we couldnt understand it? Whose to say we do not already have all the tools on this planet, all the minerals, machines but just havent used it a certain way? Most ideas are found via a variation on a theme , a sort of "oops, i accidently mixed 2 compounds and i've created something new"

It could be that simple

But then we could be stoneage in comparison

Some people say that our technology is progressing so fast that were getting closer and closer to alien technology, now if aliens and thier technology is superior to our technology wouldn't they be able to push the limits to thier technology faster than we can?'

To elaborate on what sigma and others have said and of course to just put my two cents in.

Yes technology comes in fits and spurts, leveling off and plateuing from time to time. Think of the automobile. What's it been around now for? A little over a hundred years or so right? Well has it really changed that much? Still four wheels, still right (or left) hand drive depending on where you at. combustible engine break pedal, ignition blah blah blah. While our technology has grown and the automobile has greatly increased in speed, comfort, fuel economy and even entertaiment value its still a car with an internal combustion engine.

Now we're starting to move into alternative fuels, building materials and other technology which withing the next five years or so will take the automobile to a completely new level but yet again, most willl look like they have. But say two hundred years from now the mode of transport could look completely different, be completely different.

My basic point here being that what looks like a plateu actually may not be, the technology will make a leap, slowly progressing until another leap is made.

Look at the telephone. Again a bit over a hundreed years old. They've gon from a device with a hand crank completely dependent upon operators, to a device with a base, hand set and round dial, to push button, cordless, beepers to recieve calls you miss, miscellanious and varied services such as call waiting and eventually all the others, cell phones and satellite phones, more economic cell phones, mobile messaging devices, pdas and now cell phones that incorporate everything from gps to fax and websurfing, some of the phones not even looking like phones anymore. What will they look like ten years from now?

As for the ability to back engineer possibly recovered alien technologies I think it all depends on how advance the "alien race" is to the race it visits.

If we sent a model t back in time to cave man days they'd just beat it with clubs, maybe a smart one wold take the pre-vulcanized rubber tires and attempt to make shoes or soup out of it, but for the most part just a lot of club banging.

But if we sent a model t to say renaissance days it may be beyond them and they may not have the means to make it run but some smart person or group would probably figure out how it works in theory.

Now send a 2005 Mustang (mmm sweet@!) back to 1921. How long before they figure it out? computers and all.

So basically I've had way too much coffee and am rambling and speculating.

But this is actually a pretty good and interesting thread.

Spiderj

So even if Spaceship Guys handing their technology down to Earth guys actually exist (and I don't think they do), they're not needed.

We're doing just fine by ourselves, thank you very much.

Somehow I doubt we'd mind getting our hands on antigravity, warp drives, and the like if they somehow came into our possession...

Originally posted by Gazrok

So even if Spaceship Guys handing their technology down to Earth guys actually exist (and I don't think they do), they're not needed.

We're doing just fine by ourselves, thank you very much.

Somehow I doubt we'd mind getting our hands on antigravity, warp drives, and the like if they somehow came into our possession...

But supposedly anti-gravity has been in our hands for sometime. Declassified documents are showing that Nazi Germany actually was
building anti-gravity craft during WWII. Historians are saying that they may even have succeeded in getting them off the ground, (ref: Foo-fighters)
Of course that is not saying that the technology did not originate from Aliens. But if an Alien Race has the technology to warp time and space for
galactic space travel then they have the technology to not be seen or heard if they wish not to be So does this mean that they prefer to be seen