To The Fatty Running On The Track This Afternoon: I Really Hope You Read This.

i'm the fatty on the track :p working towards being in the best shape possible for jan 2015 when the firefighter academy starts. decided I want a career where I can help people and my community so this is it for me. Looking forward to trying out for the swift water rescue team aswell to help drowning victims. Filled up my rucksack with 40lbs of weights and getting out every day for a 2mile jog, the burn feels great and you definitely feel yourself getting healthier and healthier each day.

props to everyone else whos out there doing the same and trying to get in better shape

a reply to: ker2010

A better comparison is long distance runners who run on concrete. To those who run on sand.

Massive difference in body composition and injury rate.

Sand has all kind of cool bio-mechanical properties and limits distance. And your gait has to be good.



Shoe companies pushed the idea of running on a hard surface. Knowing the risks. And a lot of zealots refuse to question the practice.

a reply to: ker2010

If there is one thing I learned about physical fitness during the ARMY, it is this: Eat RIGHT, throw your own body weight around in every way imaginable and run until you puke, then do it some more.

I've watched people lose literally, not figuratively, hundreds of pounds of body weight without a gym or any "GNC" product.

THIS FIELD MANUAL IS PUBLIC AND WRITTEN AT AN 8TH GRADE READING LEVEL

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AND NOW THIS:



SMOKEBOMB!!!

a reply to: BangoDukeINF


Respect. Ex Navy here.

WEM
Body Recovery
Con Course Inst.

But so many people in our community are beyond this idea.

@ violet:

You are right. I worked at a large pharmaceutical company for the last five years, until it closed. I used to inspect IV drugs, but when things got slow we would have to help clean certain areas of the building. We did aseptic cleaning and part of that included simply mopping the floors. I'll tell you something, I have NEVER felt better in my life then when I mopped about 6 hours every night. It was just nice, constant motion. Easy on the body but perfect for the body. My whole attitude changed, I kid you not. I really liked it and I was surprised I did because it made me feel so good.

After about 4 months of this someone told on us and we had to mop according to our standard operating procedure, (SOP) which included dipping the mop in solution ever 4 strokes and not making actual cleaning strokes farther than 4 feet. RIDICULOUS. It ruined everything. Took the rhythm totally out of it. After that I didn't like it anymore, but we had to do it because we could get fired if we didn't do it correctly. But that's big pharma for ya.

a reply to: saucepan


Prescription floor mopping. Who would have thunk it.

Do not mix with alcohol.

I don't know about taking medications and jogging. Anyone here can advise on this type of situation?
For myself, I walk 6 miles round trip for a morning cup of coffee at McDonalds. I haven't driven a car in over 13 years. Most of my getting around is by bicycle which can be a 6 hour bike ride on Sundays. For that weight gain, really, if you eat too much and still do what I do, you just ain't going to lose weight. The trick is don't bend the elbow after 7 pm and watch them snacky foods stay on the shelf at the grocery store. Oh, and always eat slow.

originally posted by: thedeadtruth
Funny you should say something like this on ATS.

The Jogging fad is marketing over science. The feel good factor over critical thinking.

This post is an advert for ignorance.

Or perhaps jogging is the easiest way to elevate the heart rate and burn calories, without spending a fortune of equipment or gym memberships. And yes, your post is an advert for ignorance, as you astutely pointed out. You actually think jogging, that thing people naturally do, is always about a fad? Sure, anything can be turned into a fad, but that does not mean there is no benefit in it. Science has critically proven that aerobic exercise, which eats up energy from the body, will cause a person to lose weight. It is about the energy one intakes through food, and the energy one expends through exercise, which jogging is. So even if some have turned it into a fad, do not act like there is no benefit in the act, and that it is all commercialized or whatever.

It's not jogging but I bought a bike the winter of 2013 and I've biked over 3,000 miles since then and have dropped 35lbs. I was 35 when I bought it and the last time I owned a bike I was 13. 3,000 miles plus might not seem like a lot to the hardcore cyclists but Ive got a job working up to 60 hrs a week and some Sundays so I ride alot at dusk or night. I agree with the anti joggers, it is hard on your everything no mater how damn skinny you are.

The OP was really cool to read. Im stealing it and sharing it.

What boils down to for me is this: anything that gets you up off the couch and moving, do it and don't sweat the naysayers!

Personally, I get bored with running REALLY quick. I'm talking, within 3 miles... so I've found that I do better with interval-type training (just breaking it up) run a mile, stop and do pushups, situps, pullups, burpees, lunges, whatever, run another mile, stop and do something else... for however long my time alottment is for that day. Throw in some stairs or sprints up the mtn every few days, seems to work great for me.

Thinking of doing the Spartan Race in a couple months, the WOD have been a huge help shaking things up.

originally posted by: thedeadtruth
a reply to: saucepan


Prescription floor mopping. Who would have thunk it.

Do not mix with alcohol.

It might sound stupid, but it made me feel great. It was the best I felt in over 15 years and I work out regularly. Simply stated, it was like light exercise all night long.

Normally at that job we just sat there and inspected IV drugs.'Burned no calories.' A good job for a fat person. I think doing something like that where you barely move for 8 hours a day kills ya, ages ya. IMHO

How very noble of you all. Compliment him/her with a backhanded compliment. How rich.

To everyone that I saw on the tracks. Congrats on taking control of your health. I am rooting for you.

a reply to: thedeadtruth

Every one one of your posts in this threat has a nasty air of superiority. And although you are correct, instead of holding it over others and insulting a poster as you did here (yes I know you were responding to an insult), how about enlightening people? Tell them they are wrong, but maybe tell them WHY. Just a thought

" jogging ..that thing people naturally do " Really.

As we say ATS ... video or it didn't happen.

Show me one video of children jogging without being told / forced to.


Because I have seen children climb without being told to for hours, sprint around in short bursts for hours. And even play in the water for hours. Kick a ball around for hours. Walk for hours out in the bush.

But I have NEVER seen a child just start running and not stop.

a reply to: InvisibleOwl

And the reason for my not to well disguised disgust at people who push myths. Is I see the actual harm it causes.

Everything from the lie that you "have to get your heart rate up to burn fat" which puts a lot of people off all exercise. To runners encouraging overweight people to run , knowing the damage it will do.


Yes people who pretend to care tick me off.

a reply to: thedeadtruth

It worked..... The Doctors involved with high risk amputation patients were happy with the results. ( black skin going back to pink. Ulcers staying away etc.... )

But then the local university got involved. I had a mate who thought they would be interested. But guess what. Their ONLY perimeters for testing was for cardio. They said for it to work, the person had to jump around on the platform.

Why didn't you open with this instead of writing a dozen hostile posts? If you'd have said that your issue was with promoting cardio over other exercise, people would have listened more.

Is/was your design similar to gym vibration machines or these tested by NASA? They have them in my gym although I haven't used them because it looks easier to operate an fMRI scannner. A lot of 'legs and cardio' members use them whereas I like to finish with stretches and basic yoga.

a reply to: saucepan

It makes sense to me that mopping can be a good exercise. I've mopped my share of floors as a teenage kitchen porter and swept up on building sites in the past. If it was one of those big industrial mops (heavy), you'd be working some core muscles, shoulders, upper arms and using hip rotation. Depending on the energy you put into it, it could be useful and obviously how much floor space was covered and how often...

a reply to: thedeadtruth

I have also seen children try to stick their fingers in electrical outlets, antagonize vicious animals, attempt to swallow large objects and almost choke to death, jump in deep water while being unable to swim etc. etc.

Look, I get the point youre making. Honestly though, the only credibility you've provided for your numerous condescending statements is that being a mortician somehow makes you the paragon of fitness knowledge. Really? Get off it already, to each their own.

For every study you link I can link one saying the opposite. For every person you could show that got fit your way or died at 40 from jogging i can show you one who got fit doing it another or lived to 80 jogging mile after mile after mile. Know why? The human body and the intricacies of how it works is still, despite decades of exhaustive research and experimentation, a convoluted paradox that isn't fully understood by you, me or any of the brilliant minds to have walked the planet and each one of us is different.

To presume or postulate to know different is nothing more than hubris of the highest degree.

Please though, let me know when the morticians guild releases its next line of workout DVDs and opens the next branch of their highly successful franchised fitness centers since a mortuary science degree seems to turn people into oracles of exercise.

Or perhaps its your PhD. in Broscience? Either way, put the high horse in the stable.

a reply to: Kandinsky

No NASA have never tested training devices. Only Physio level units.

Your Gym will have fake product. Probably made of plastic. And yes they make them look all computer like to distract you from the fact it is a toy / big foot massager. The real machines can not be used unsupervised.

a reply to: Kgdetroit

I know I am a primate. It is not complicated.

Tha'ts great! I feel like that fatty... because I am overweight. True story ... I lost a bunch of weight after being fat for 10 years..... Then I had a surgery that left me immobile for 4 weeks and I got depressed (nearly had a mental breakdown as well from work stress) and gained a whole bunch of it back but not it all back. Been working out again and working on getting back down!

a reply to: purplemer