3 year old recalls past life ,Identifies killer and location of body

a reply to: maddy21

I didn't realize reincarnation was a primary belief of Tibetan Buddhists. After that I began reading and researching to look deeper into what they teach. It was real eye opener.

originally posted by: sheepslayer247
Interesting story. Since I'm a skeptic, I tend to take a logical look at things and I think we have to admit that it is possible this kid was reincarnated and remembers the details of the past-life's murder.

But it's also quite possible that this kid was coached by someone who had knowledge of the event and that this is just a fraud.

It's up to the individual to decide which seems more likely.

ETA: I think it's important to note that many stories such as this come from areas in which reincarnation is part of the base belief system.

In addition, the lack of specifics makes it sound like an urban legend story from the USA. "There was this guy who..."

originally posted by: gottaknow
Reincarnation is really the only belief that was difficult for me to let go of as the idea of being eternally experiencing and learning is to me, the ultimately best form of an afterlife.

However, I have yet to see anything truly proving this type of existence and this is no better.

1. It's hearsay. We make up stories all the time.
2. It's from a tribe whose primary belief is of reincarnation. Fascinating at that, but, all the more reason this child could have been prompted by a parent/elder if this happened at all.
3. It goes on the presumption that the spirit hung around to discover what happened to the body after it was killed. Much more likely there was a eyewitness that didn't come forth at the time of the murder.

I see nothing extraordinary here and certainly no proof. Too bad though, it's a neat story.

2. Primary belief? If its a PRIMARY belief, then why did the secret belief only slip out in the 70's.
3. An eyewitness that not only saw the murder, but also where the murderer buried the body, and also where the murderer buried the axe.

Im not saying this story is proof at all, as it is just that, a story. But when stacked up with all the other "stories" it starts to become very compelling. Especially when these stories span all races, religions and belief systems.
I truly believe there is something to it.

I am one of those who wishes to cast doubt here. A corresponding birthmark, knowledge of names, and places builds a strong circumstantial case, but it takes a leap of faith to conclude it's a past life or even a legitimate story. Young children can be easily lead via power of suggestion or interpret dreams as legitimate memories. Stories similar to this are often used to substantiate belief, even created for propaganda purposes. Many different forms of memetic propagation.

I need far more then text for me to buy this. A picture of the birthmark, a corresponding injury to skeletal remains, and more detailed evidence may work, but even then I would have my skepticism. It's a great story, no doubt, but until then it will remain just a story which could have been easily fabricated for many number of reasons.

I am being a buzzkill, but I can't get myself to believe in the existence of a soul, much less the transfer of some ethereal energy into a new vessel based on what could be a bogus claim to begin with.

originally posted by: OneManArmy

originally posted by: Mianeye
So, there is nothing to support the story but this.

The boy's full story has been documented in the book, "Children Who Have Lived Before: Reincarnation Today" by German therapist Trutz Hardo.

I don't trust stories like this, especialy when they are from India.

Fishy

LMAO, since when has the Golan Heights been in India?

I dont trust the opinions of people that dont know what they are talking about.

This is a very compelling story that adds to the many others I have read about.
Im pretty sure that reincarnation is a reality, this story just strengthens that belief.
These stories are so widespread and NOT specific to any religion, its very compelling with the weight of evidence supporting it.
But you will always have people that can have reincarnation sit on their face, they will still deny it.

Gotta love the materialists.

I was refering to the article was posted in Indiatoday, i am well aware of where the Golan heights are located, so concider it a typo in the rush to answear, so you can save your LMAO to something that is actually funny.

Peace.

And yes there are stories but nothing to back it up, not even this one.

People shoulden't believe everything posted on the internet, especialy not when a new book is mentioned as the source, there are no pictures or anything of the persons involved, there is no newspaper about the supossed killer being caught, there is only that piece you see in this thread.

You want to know more BUY THE BOOK, it's simple math to figure this one out IMO.

a reply to: DarknStormy

They say when you die you are in your astral body.. If you were murdered and took issue with that then you might hover around the murderer as well as your own physical body at least until you can let go and move on...i wonder if his being reincarnated is due to personal attachments and or Universal Karma sending him back to get natural justice...ive heard that karma speeds up as the earth as well as all creatures on it move through this universe into higher regions of energy...its all very interesting...Especially the fact that the man clearly had a weight on his conscience and even if the boy never apperared he would have still suffered for his actions...But due to the events he was able to confess and get it off his chest and begin to make repairs. Personally i would be grateful if i could unload such a burden and continue to move onwards and upwards..

originally posted by: Mianeye

originally posted by: OneManArmy

originally posted by: Mianeye
So, there is nothing to support the story but this.

The boy's full story has been documented in the book, "Children Who Have Lived Before: Reincarnation Today" by German therapist Trutz Hardo.

I don't trust stories like this, especialy when they are from India.

Fishy

LMAO, since when has the Golan Heights been in India?

I dont trust the opinions of people that dont know what they are talking about.

This is a very compelling story that adds to the many others I have read about.
Im pretty sure that reincarnation is a reality, this story just strengthens that belief.
These stories are so widespread and NOT specific to any religion, its very compelling with the weight of evidence supporting it.
But you will always have people that can have reincarnation sit on their face, they will still deny it.

Gotta love the materialists.

I was refering to the article was posted in Indiatoday, i am well aware of where the Golan heights are located, so concider it a typo in the rush to answear, so you can save your LMAO to something that is actually funny.

Peace.

And yes there are stories but nothing to back it up, not even this one.

People shoulden't believe everything posted on the internet, especialy not when a new book is mentioned as the source, there are no pictures or anything of the persons involved, there is no newspaper about the supossed killer being caught, there is only that piece you see in this thread.

You want to know more BUY THE BOOK, it's simple math to figure this one out IMO.

Firstly, I found it funny. I have a sense of humour like that.
Secondly, what has maths got to do with philosophy/metaphysics?

If these things were so simple to work out, why is reincarnation after thousands of years, still a mystery.
Maybe you can share some of your "simple maths" so us idiots can work it all out. Then you can go and publish a paper and get a nobel prize.

While it's a very intriguing story.. I'd thought I'd be seeing pictures or some kind of evidence for such a tale. While I do believe reincarnation is a thing, I think recall of a past life is very rare.

For those rare occurrences, I think there should be some proof.

a reply to: Mizzijr

Heres some more intriguing cases of reincarnation.

10-interesting-cases-of-supposed-reincarnation

Only one case is from India. The majority being non reincarnation belief systems.

They also have varying degrees of circumstantional evidence. Including photos(if a photo can be considered 'proof' of anything).

If we had definitive proof, it wouldnt be a mystery. Just like "aliens".
Or "What does it all mean?", "What is the purpose of life?", "Where did the universe come from?", "religion" etc etc

We have thousands of photos of UFO's, but what does that prove?

Look up the story of Jenny Cockell and Mary Sutton....that one has a happy ending!

www.independent.co.uk... hwoman-who-died-62-years-ago-her-determination-to-meet-her-children-who-are-old-enough-to-be-her-parents-has-reunited-a-shattered-family-seth-linder-r eports-1411415.html

Rainbows
Jane

a reply to: OneManArmy

Secondly, what has maths got to do with philosophy/metaphysics?

Sigh...Really, do i really need to explain what i meant.

One writer + one fake story + no source = One book and more sold copies, and a lot of people who became less inteligent from reading it.

^^^Simple math.

why is reincarnation after thousands of years, still a mystery.

Cause it's a myth.

What is the purpose of life

Propagation of the species. Passing on our genetic material to subsequent generations

Where did the universe come from?

Either vacuum fluctuations, or the collision of membranes which exist in the bulk. Could even be a cyclical model if you discount the cosmological constant. It's circular reasoning really. Perhaps this bulk/zero point field always existed, and even time is infinite. After all this is the same argument made for "god".

religion?

A control meme. An invention of society to regulate itself or provide answers to an unknown. Mythos is a great tool to impose social contracts and codes of conduct. Always subject to change, never innate.

At that young of age, children can "see" things the majority of adults can not. That's why pretending and using your imagination when you were a tot was so much more real.

If this is not a case of reincarnation, it could be the spirit of the murder victim showed this boy what happened in such a vivid way that the boy interpreted it as his own past experience. Through dreams, visions, etc...

If it is a case of reincarnation, then what is the boy to do now that his past life murder issue has been resolved? He will surely die again, but will he retain the memories of the memories? How far down the rabbit hole does it go, since he won't be able to forget due to locating his past life murderer?

I have read and heard too many cases of supposed reincarnation to not give it some critical thinking. However, I think it has to do more with the spirits of these "lost souls" (due to being killed in a violent or mishap fashion) communicating with a human that is able to comprehend and "see".

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originally posted by: Mianeye
a reply to: OneManArmy

Secondly, what has maths got to do with philosophy/metaphysics?

Sigh...Really, do i really need to explain what i meant.

One writer + one fake story + no source = One book and more sold copies, and a lot of people who became less inteligent from reading it.

^^^Simple math.

why is reincarnation after thousands of years, still a mystery.

Cause it's a myth.

LMAO @ reading causing a loss of intelligence.

Only if you believe everything you read.

To deny a vast swathe of circumstantial evidence is pretty dumb if you ask me.
But hey I frequent ATS, Ive read some pretty strange stuff, I must be a right idiot.
Oh no, thats right I have critical thinking skills, I can think for myself and decide for myself what I believe or not.

As for the masses that watch TV and never read, I dare not imagine their intelligence levels by your standards, they must be geniuses. But evidence suggests that reading increases intelligence. Sorry to shatter your myth, the evidence simply doesnt stack up, if it did we wouldnt have schools or libraries.

For those that only believe "pictures" heres a video of a very compelling case. The pictures move and everything. What more could a person want for evidence? Sorry Im being facetious.
The barra boy

a reply to: OneManArmy

Only if you believe everything you read.

Which was my whole point

Have a good one

originally posted by: Mianeye
a reply to: OneManArmy

Only if you believe everything you read.

Which was my whole point

Have a good one

Thank you.

You too....

originally posted by: WCmutant
a reply to: maddy21



Interesting. Given it's a 3-year old, I'd be more concerned it's not a past life but he has psychic abilities. Given he's only three, it would be very hard for him to distinguish from any psychic visions and thinking it's actual memories.



But in all honesty, only time will tell.

Yea i'm gonna go with psychic on this one because of the time frame. From everything i have come to understand about reincarnation it would take longer to get through all the gates that seperate the realms but truely anything is possible. I say it takes yrs to reincarnate and time on the other side is not the same.

a reply to: maddy21Freaking awesome.I want to read the book.Love when children can express where they have been,with conviction. True believer in there is so much more and we can remember if we are not 'coached' to believe we are crazy.It would be an honour to meet someone such as this child.

a reply to: Degradation33

Mr. Knowitall over here just answered every philosophical question in the book. Case closed.
j/k but am I seriously the only one that finds this post extremely humorous?!

I believe in this sort of thing, to a point. But to fully convert me from my doubts, I'd definitely need more hard evidence than this. Good read though!

originally posted by: Degradation33


Propagation of the species. Passing on our genetic material to subsequent generations

Raping the planet(our home) of its resources and killing off other species?
Really? Why?
Why does life exist at all?

Either vacuum fluctuations, or the collision of membranes which exist in the bulk. Could even be a cyclical model if you discount the cosmological constant. It's circular reasoning really. Perhaps this bulk/zero point field always existed, and even time is infinite. After all this is the same argument made for "god".

membranes in the bulk? what bulk, where did the bulk come from, does a vacuum exist in nothingness, even zero point energy exists in a vacuum has it always existed? What is zero point energy?
You provide some perhaps but no answers.
We can all postulate ideas, which was my point in the first place.

A control meme. An invention of society to regulate itself or provide answers to an unknown. Mythos is a great tool to impose social contracts and codes of conduct. Always subject to change, never innate.

I think we can agree on this at least.