The Mysterious Skeleton Lake of the Himalayas

a reply to: ScientiaFortisDefendit

You'd huddle together in fear, probably. You pack yourselves together tightly like fans at a sold-out rock concert, that's what you do. This would certainly explain the injuries being confined to the head and shoulders. As people were killed, they were kept upright by the crowd,

Loved ones would use their bodies to cover the heads of others...they would have lived and no one seems to have returned to tell the story.

originally posted by: pepsibadd3
a reply to: Domo1

maybe he was just a big man

Or maybe 1200 year old flesh frozen and thawed in the water for so long swells.

Actually saw this on a show called Strangest Weather on Earth that airs on the Weather Channel. It's a pretty awesome show, actually.

whether it was only blows to the back of the head, or both blows to the head and the shoulders, it cannot be hail and still fits the execution scenario.

heres another key to unlock the mystery that cannot be overlooked. the location is remote. it is not on established through-trails, of which the region had MANY. the region has REAL trail systems, not this off route place. there are plentiful water sources all year long all around there. the lake was ugly, small, only open to camping 2 months a year from snowmelt, and had NO ROOM FOR 100 PEOPLE TO CAMP, or even 20. ...and NO REASON for anyone to camp there. THERE ARE RICH, BEAUTIFUL, OCCUPIED VALLEYS that people travel trough and camped at in that region. this place was LITERALLY NOWHERE. no way 300 people came walking through and were killed accidentely, especially in separate groups. NO WAY. they were marched up there. for a cultural reason.

a reply to: urmenimu
It could have been a sacrifice a water deity, but why there so far in the mountains, but what if it was to something that lived there in the mountains taking sacrifice persons in small groups over time sacrifices to make it stay away.

Reminds me of this find.

www.nbcnews.com...

Middle of nowhere

Until the Lake went dry no one knew.

To date, more than 150 skulls have been discovered there.

Carbon dating suggested that the skulls were at least 1,100 years old, and the few dozen analyzed so far are mostly from men, Morehart told LiveScience. The researchers did not release photos of the skulls because the sacrifice victims may have living descendants in indigenous cultures.

a reply to: urmenimu

1. The did not study 300 corpses.

2. Ritual would have you hit them however ritual was always done.

3. A. yeti are known to be crack shots with rocks and the valley is a bowl, probably a tighter bowl 1200 years ago before years of sliding and erosion

B. The people may have come in small groups over a 30 year period.

a reply to: Char-Lee

they extrapolated what happened to the entire group based upon a study of 30 corpses, obviously. the 3-4 groups theory fits within 30-50 years. yetis would not hit everyone in one shot in the head/upper body at once, others would be running and hiding and that would be impossible to target shots like that even with a gun. there is no reason people would be going past that lake in the first place. ritual would follow the specific ritual of the place/time/culture. yeti evidence is scarce. the scientists recovered no round cricketball sized sling stones.

a reply to: Char-Lee

yes, but these would be Hindu/Buddhist gods but perhaps with a local anamist twist. my hypothesis is that the killings are NOT an "offering" to the gods, but rather asking this specific place/god/cosmology to do them a favor by making these victims "disappear" from their cultural lexicon. problem of haunting spirits: solved.

a reply to: urmenimu

the scientists recovered no round cricketball sized sling stones.

Do you have the location for that, i had no idea they looked?

originally posted by: urmenimu
a reply to: Char-Lee

they extrapolated what happened to the entire group based upon a study of 30 corpses, obviously. the 3-4 groups theory fits within 30-50 years. yetis would not hit everyone in one shot in the head/upper body at once, others would be running and hiding and that would be impossible to target shots like that even with a gun. there is no reason people would be going past that lake in the first place. ritual would follow the specific ritual of the place/time/culture. yeti evidence is scarce. the scientists recovered no round cricketball sized sling stones.

Yes well you can see how that could be a problem for accurate information.

nestled 15,750 feet in the Himalayan mountains of India bordering Nepal and only accessible via a five-day ascending trek, scientists estimate there could still be 400 undiscovered bodies.

www.thedailybeast.com...

The ancent legands suggest that people went up there to worship

o honor the goddess Nanda Devi.

When something unexpected befell them, so this is possibly the best assumption.

The lake bowl shaped valley does look spooky like this.

a reply to: Char-Lee
the location would be the lake...even if they weren't looking for 'yetis'...lol there is scant evidence in the speculation-genre for yetis being systematic and efficient mass murderers.

a reply to: Char-Lee
it is typical to science to extrapolate information based on sample studies and then applied across a broad spectrum. in this type of analysis specifically, that is EXACTLY how science works - so plsss...

as far as a pilgrimage site for a specific goddess, that is interesting information... so 300 people were up there on sunday, and stood straight up with their arms down while hail hit? sorry son son.

it does add an additional premise however, IF people were there to worship, which makes sense. in fact it backs up my analysis that the site served cultural purpose. they may have possibly offered themselves to the goddess [through a stone mallet wielded by a monk attached to that goddess]. although my hypothesis of prisoners trans-worlded for self-protection at the site still seems most likely.

a reply to: Char-Lee

wait...if the ancient legends suggest the people went up there to worship, then we have PROOF that 300 people weren't suddenly killed by hail. if 300 people were up there on a sunday to worship the goddess, and stood upright til death during a hail storm, their 3000 relatives who also worship there would remove the bodies. if its a place of worship, any and all bodies would be removed. UNLESS...it was a place of worship for moving people to the underworld with clubs... then you might leave the bodies behind for he goddess.

originally posted by: Pimpintology
I can tell you that I have seen softball sized hail. If you were out and exposed to that with no cover you might very well be beaten to death. A large chuck of ice smashing into your skull at over 120 mph is going to cause problems.

en.wikipedia.org...

Rarely, massive hailstones have been known to cause concussions or fatal head trauma. Hailstorms have been the cause of costly and deadly events throughout history. One of the earliest recorded incidents occurred around the 9th century in Roopkund, Uttarakhand, India.

on a storm chaser TV show I saw golf ball sized hail break out every window in a car a dent the sheet metal.

Poison the waterhole. Whack them on the noggin with rocks or wooden staffs. This is an interesting case.

a reply to: Domo1

I believe what we are seeing is the remains of a certain burrying ritual I have seen either in Tibet or Nepal. It involves washing and preparing the body and pray for it through an´bout a week to help the dead on his journey through the Unseen to reincarnation. After the prayer is finished a strong man takes afirm grip around the body and breakes it's back and it is further rolled into what looks a bit like a burrito and two journeymen brings the body to it's next stage, it is placed into the wilderness where birds of prey, wild animals and time helps with bringing back to Mother Nature what atoms were present in that body. After I heared about that ritual I thought that's actually a really nice way to go. And I still think it is. However, if my suspicion is correct, it does have a rather gory side, but that's one of the funny things with living in the Himalayas, nothing rots.

a reply to: urmenimu

so plsss...

As per my post, they do not know how many more bodies...in order to scientifically get such a number from their 30 test subjects they need to know the overall number. so plsss...

originally posted by: LA1IMPALA

originally posted by: Pimpintology
I can tell you that I have seen softball sized hail. If you were out and exposed to that with no cover you might very well be beaten to death. A large chuck of ice smashing into your skull at over 120 mph is going to cause problems.

en.wikipedia.org...

Rarely, massive hailstones have been known to cause concussions or fatal head trauma. Hailstorms have been the cause of costly and deadly events throughout history. One of the earliest recorded incidents occurred around the 9th century in Roopkund, Uttarakhand, India.

on a storm chaser TV show I saw golf ball sized hail break out every window in a car a dent the sheet metal.

So it broke side windows while dinting the entire car....

a reply to: Utnapisjtim

it is placed into the wilderness where birds of prey

The places where this is practiced, they do not carry the corpse miles into the high mountains.

originally posted by: Char-Lee
a reply to: Utnapisjtim

it is placed into the wilderness where birds of prey

The places where this is practiced, they do not carry the corpse miles into the high mountains.

Yes, that's exactly what they do.