Two pics from Oilantaytambo that 100% defy evolution

a reply to: TzarChasm

I know. This isn't the first time that I've participated in this thread.

This thread is the same as someone saying that 1+1=6 then that same person turning around and telling the person that says 1+1=2 that both answers are a matter of opinion.

originally posted by: randyvs
a reply to: Krazysh0t


We aren't takl'n about rock formations Einstien.

Yes you are trying to date human civilization 12,000 years ago. Again I am familiar with your argument and it may have even been a GOOD one if you were trying to call the mainstream account of when human civilization began into question, but humans evolved some 200,000 years ago so extending the length of human civilization back 6000 years is a moot point when humans have been on the planet for 190,000 years longer than that. Evolution has NOTHING to do with this topic.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

, but humans evolved some 200,000 years ago

What does that even mean? Then what? They just stopped because they were satisfied?
How long did it take, one day? Or was there an age of evolution? Man evolved 200,000 yrs ago?
Evolved from what, a caveman? And what did caveman evolve from?

a reply to: randyvs

For someone that posts so frequently in this forum I'm aghast at how little you grasp of evolution by this point. Do you have any intention to at least try and wrap your head around it or do you intent to keep attacking this silly strawman of evolution you have built?

originally posted by: randyvs
a reply to: Krazysh0t

, but humans evolved some 200,000 years ago

What does that even mean? Then what? They just stopped because they were satisfied?
How long did it take, one day? Or was there an age of evolution? Man evolved 200,000 yrs ago?
Evolved from what, a caveman? And what did caveman evolve from?

I posted this in my first response in the thread.
Timeline of human evolution

a reply to: randyvs

You do know that evolution is not a conscious decision, right? An animal does not, one day, *decide* to evolve.

Evolution (or the theory of) is about mutations that lead to the survival of that particular animal who's mutation helps them survive. For example, in a jungle environment, you could have a single generation of a species of animal who all have various mutations, like being born with a missing eye, heart problems, blindness, etc - which all die out because those defects hinder the animal; it does not protect or save them from predators, starvation for lack of sourcing food, etc.

Or. you could have an animal in that generation with a mutation that makes its skin go mottle-coloured; green, brown, etc. That has a benefit - it is now LESS VISIBLE to its predators and survives and passes on that *mutation*.

This has happened for millions and millions of years in all animals on Earth. It isn't static and it doesn't only happen once in a millions years.

Why haven't humans evolved beyond what we are now..? I don't know is the answer. Maybe the current wave of genetic mutations we're experiencing are not beneficial to our survival (diseases, genetic defects, etc).

But your cut stones have NO IMPACT on evolution. Your statements just do not make sense...

a reply to: Krazysh0t

humans have been on the planet for 190,000 years longer than that.

So how did they get here? They evolved and humans just burst
on the scene 200,000 years ago! How much time was involved in
this accomplishment? That no one accomplished?

Don't answer my question with a link?

a reply to: randyvs

I think you need to read up on the basics of human evolution. People didnt just appear. It was a long and gradual process. Scientists, anthropologists, archeologists are still finding clues and evidence (fossil record) as to how we became "homo-sapiens".

We evolved from great apes a long time ago, small mutations and diversions from that species line, which lead to that generation surviving and the others dying out.

I know you don't care for things like facts and science, but THIS wiki link is actually an interesting read.

a reply to: noonebutme

This has happened for millions and millions of years in all animals on Earth. It isn't static and it doesn't only happen once in a millions years.

So did all the animals evolve 200,000 years ago also? Guess we all just
discontinued evolution at the same time?

a reply to: noonebutme

We evolved from great apes a long time ago, small mutations and diversions from that species line, which lead to that generation surviving and the others dying out.

i thought you needed proof to make a statement like that?
So you're tell'n me this is a fact? It seems to me that we should be able to replicate such
an occurrence in the lab rather easily with today's science? If it occurred so easily in
nature? We still have apes don't we? Good thing we found out about them like
200 years ago?

originally posted by: randyvs
a reply to: Krazysh0t

humans have been on the planet for 190,000 years longer than that.

So how did they get here? They evolved and humans just burst
on the scene 200,000 years ago! How much time was involved in
this accomplishment? That no one accomplished?

Don't answer my question with a link?

What kind of question is that? Do you want me to give you an in depth history of human evolution without using links? Why can't you just read the link I provided in the last post? In any case, none of this matters since we are talking about a timeframe of 12000 years here and that 12000 is WELL within the 200,000 or so years that humans have been on the planet. Like I said there is nothing in your OP that contradicts evolution. This thread is an exercise in fail.

originally posted by: randyvs
a reply to: noonebutme

We evolved from great apes a long time ago, small mutations and diversions from that species line, which lead to that generation surviving and the others dying out.

i thought you needed proof to make a statement like that?
So you're tell'n me this is a fact? It seems to me that we should be able to replicate such
an occurrence in the lab rather easily with today's science? If it occurred so easily in
nature? We still have apes don't we? Good thing we found out about them like
200 years ago?

what i dont get is how you post a thread challenging the theory of evolution and spend the whole thread refusing to do the follow up research. this is a waste of time because youre not interested in being educated and we're not interested in buying your malarkey. you dont understand evolution because youve chosen not to. leaves us at something i call an impasse.

originally posted by: randyvs
a reply to: wmd_2008

Thanks for quoting my point.

It's NOT your point!

originally posted by: randyvs
What does that even mean? Then what? They just stopped because they were satisfied?
How long did it take, one day? Or was there an age of evolution? Man evolved 200,000 yrs ago?
Evolved from what, a caveman? And what did caveman evolve from?

Humankind has evolved and is constantly evolving from 2.5 million years ago to today. He was referring to the emergence of the homo sapien species as a species in relation to modern humans today. Homo sapiens didn't suddenly emerge. They slowly changed over time.

Seriously, dude. You should know better than this by now.

i thought you needed proof to make a statement like that?
So you're tell'n me this is a fact? It seems to me that we should be able to replicate such
an occurrence in the lab rather easily with today's science? If it occurred so easily in
nature? We still have apes don't we? Good thing we found out about them like
200 years ago?

You are claiming that we should be able to replicate a process that has taken near 7 million years in a lab rather easily during a single human lifetime? We've seen it happen with lesser organisms with short life spans, but replicating something like that would be far from easy. So we study the fossils and genetic lineage instead.

a reply to: randyvs

Some of these are epic Randy. Seriously, do you mind if I use one as a sig? You could take the place now reserved for Hippocrates!

And the machinery that carved those squares in granite was obviously lost to the flood. Bye Bye evolution. Hello every truth that is the Bible.

So did all the animals evolve 200,000 years ago also? Guess we all just discontinued evolution at the same time?

What does that even mean? Then what? They just stopped because they were satisfied? How long did it take, one day? Or was there an age of evolution? Man evolved 200,000 yrs ago?

Enjoyed this one as well TzarChasm, for an entirely different reason to above though lol.

jesus needs some new PR staff, fo real.

I might go through this thread and just pick out the best quotes, to keep them in one place, some of them are memorable!

Well good luck with your beliefs everyone!
I'm sure you'll be vindicated in the end.

originally posted by: randyvs


Well good luck with your beliefs everyone!
I'm sure you'll be vindicated in the end.

evolution has nothing to do with belief.

a reply to: TzarChasm

Your powers of observation continue to serve you well.

originally posted by: randyvs

i thought you needed proof to make a statement like that?
So you're tell'n me this is a fact? It seems to me that we should be able to replicate such
an occurrence in the lab rather easily with today's science? If it occurred so easily in
nature? We still have apes don't we? Good thing we found out about them like
200 years ago?

Yes, Randyvs, it's called the fossil record and DNA sequencing. Scientists - you know, those fellas who use empirical processes to establish scientific facts, have been able to piece together a basic evolutionary history based on the presented evidence, ie: fossils, DNA, etc.

Have you actually been to school? Have you had an education? A lot of this stuff is taught in school, even the silly Christian schools.

Randyvs, I really am disappointed in your inability to grasp even the basic concepts. This isn't "myth" like your religion, which is founded on misunderstanding, fear and the unknown. This is science.

And one of the wonderful things about science is it can admit it's wrong and adjust its views according to the presented evidence. Religion cannot, and when anything comes into conflict with a religious belief, its followers run for cover as there have nothing to defend themselves apart from yelling louder or, in your case, sticking your fingers in your ears and yelling 'la-la-laaaa' until you turn blue.

MODS: Randyvs has already admitted his threads are used to push his religious views and try to convert people to his religion. Do we really need nonsense threads like these? I know Americans are all for their 1st amendment and all, but this demeans ATS.

a reply to: noonebutme

have been able to piece together a basic evolutionary history based on the presented evidence, ie: fossils, DNA, etc.

And you go on to say you are disappointed in my
ability to grasp these basic concepts.
When I've already pointed out repeatedly, in this
very thread. The fallacies I see in them.

Fallicies that have been redundantly side stepped
and remain unaddressed. And as observed
here in, are also being noted as well as recorded. So
if you wish to continue? Quit the pathetic mind games,
intellectual dishonesty and any and all concerns for
my abilities. And try to realise the pusillanimous transparecy
of your own. Hopefully you'll concede that now you must speak to
the aforementioned flaws, in concept. Just don't ask me to run them
down for you!

And that little tattletail thing at the end there? Just makes me embarrassed
for you? Do not the Mods know their job?