Town's White Police Official Calls Obama N-word - Refuses to Apologize

originally posted by: rickymouse
Maybe it is because the police commissioner insinuated all blacks were as bad as the deceiving politician we have in charge.

He said one word about one politician in DC.
Nothing was said about 'all blacks' ... not insinuated at all.

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
So that means that whenever someone uses a racial slur they should automatically be labeled a racist

you could say that, thats not what I said though.

Dictionaries are fun.


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synonyms: be inclined, be apt, be disposed, be prone, be liable, have a tendency, have a propensity More
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go or move in a particular direction.
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a reply to: captaintyinknots
There is no deflection. The question was asked and answered.
Sorry .. I'm out of troll food. You'll have to go elsewhere ...

a reply to: FlyersFan
Not a free speech issue. He is not in jail.

a reply to: benrl

I know what you said and I asked a follow up question to help you elaborate on your point. That is how a conversation/debate works.

Your comments heavily suggest that someone who says racist slurs is secretly a racist. So that is why I asked the question. It is up to you to refute or confirm that question not question if you ever said that.

originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: captaintyinknots
Thats master level trollery right there.

And there he goes .... you pulled the same thing in the other thread .. typical.

How about a straight answer:

I always do.

do you admit that this guy said what he said in public, within earshot of other people?

He was in a restaurant which isn't private however the expectation is that you can have a private conversation. So that's a mixed answer.

No. You're 100% wrong. There is no expectation of privacy in a public restaurant.

The general rule is that people in public places must assume they might be photographed or recorded, particularly if they are officials carrying out their public duties. Therefore, you may photograph, film and record what you can easily see or hear in public places, even if the recorded people have not specifically consented to such, provided you do not harass, trespass or otherwise intrude. This includes shooting footage of a private property from a public sidewalk, as long as you do not engage in overzealous surveillance, such as the offensive use, for example, of a telephoto lens to record intimate activities inside the bedroom or bathroom of a private residence.

source

Well let's see. A private conversation is private unless it's out in public and loud enough to be heard by others. And If you say something offensive like that then I'll probably call you out on it right there in public. If you are an official or have anything to do with law enforcement and you're such a racist pig as to call our president the N-word then you get what you deserve. Don't need scum like that in office or having anything to do with law enforcement.

He should be fired.

Editing to add that there used to be a time when we had respect for the office of the president of the United States. I didn't particularly like Reagan but you never heard me calling him names or accusing him of destroying the nation like you hear everywhere now a days.

I think this disrespect for the office came during Clinton's term, carried over to Bush's terms and now to Obama's terms. With each term the disrespect get's louder and more out of hand. Pathetic. I teach my kids to have respect for the office of the President of the United States of America. Every time I see a story like this, it sicken's me. Every time I see a right wing nutjob call Obama "Obummer" or something worse, I shake my head and am ashamed that I live in the same country as these disrespectful morons.

a reply to: FlyersFan
Ok, so youre scared to answer. Ill do It for you.

The answer is YES, he did say it in a public place within earshot of others.

That means all your crying about privacy doesnt mean a thing.

So what else can we clear up here?
As it stands, this revelations means 1 of two things:

1)You're argument is weak, and thats why you wouldnt answer the question;
or
2)You are clinging to whatever you can to mask the fact that you continually defend anyone who gets public backlash for making racial comments

a reply to: FlyersFan

When I want to have a Private conversation with someone, I usually go someplace, you know, PRIVATE and not where I will be over heard calling people names. I know it's a difficult concept; but it works really well. And by his response, apparently he wanted people to hear him.
They did and now he needs to man up and take his medicine.

Although my citing of case law was ignored

Everyone understands a couple of things; don't they ?

1. A private conversation is no longer private once it is overheard
2. Keeping it private is the responsibility of the conversationalist
3. A private conversation is COMPLETELY different from Protected Speech

Please say you understand as the amount of inaccurate assumptions on this thread have me dizzy

originally posted by: captaintyinknots
So what else can we clear up here?

That apparently, it was a town resident and NOT a waitress, that overheard Copeland. Just someone at another table. So much for firing the waitress...

a reply to: semperfortis

I understand! I understand!

a reply to: Benevolent Heretic



That's One

originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: rickymouse
Maybe it is because the police commissioner insinuated all blacks were as bad as the deceiving politician we have in charge.

He said one word about one politician in DC.
Nothing was said about 'all blacks' ... not insinuated at all.

I see so if somebody were to refer to ONLY you with bigoted epitaphs, you'd say, "no problem, you're no bigot, you were specifically referring to me!"

THAT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. What on Earth are you trying to prove? That it's okay to use racial slurs as long as you're talking about a public figure? It's pretty obvious that in support of your political opinions, you're willing to excuse anything. I gave you waaaaay too much credit with your initial post, you've subsequently proven that what you're really doing is political race baiting. Good job.

I love me some conservative dichotomy,

Lets see now, lets play a game.

Count the conservative "religious" that defend hate speech.

1 little, 2 little, 3 little hypocrites...

I am sure your invisible deity in the sky is real proud of your adherence to whatever conservative moral code you claim to adhere.

I am sure this Official is a bible belt Christian as well...

a reply to: semperfortis

Hey, Im in too! Ive been trying to explain it for 3 pages now....

originally posted by: captaintyinknots
a reply to: FlyersFan
Ok, so youre scared to answer. Ill do It for you.

I answered it myself thank you very much.
You just don't like the answer. Too bad .. so sad.

originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: captaintyinknots
a reply to: FlyersFan
Ok, so youre scared to answer. Ill do It for you.

I answered it myself thank you very much.
You just don't like the answer. Too bad .. so sad.

Its plain for all to see. You deflected from the yes or no question 4 times. You know what the answer does to your argument, and thus, refused to answer.

For someone that "always" gives straight answers, you sure do deflect and dance around a lot.

a reply to: semperfortis

Legal is one thing. People have a right to expect that their conversations can be private and they should have a right to express their opinion to another person without fear of others grabbing the torchese and pitchforks. No one was speaking to the waitress. (I should note that the TV News said 'waitress'. The article didn't say that )

a reply to: burdman30ott6

it is equally ridiculous to suggest that anyone who uses a slur is automatically a racist.

Not according to me and not according to society. You don't have to like it, but that is where we have come as a society. Using racial slurs does mean you are a racist...period.

If you aren't racist...then don't use racial slurs...very simple.

And yes, by defending people who use slurs and saying they aren't racist, you are excusing racism and are part of the problem in this country.