Teacher Assaults Kindergartner

originally posted by: calstorm
The parents need to sue. If faced with a lawsuit, the school won't risk bringing her back. Somehow, I have a feeling she be teaching anymore anyways.

I don't know, calstorm. I would like to think brutalizing a student would be grounds enough to dismiss her, but I'm not sure that will happen. I suspect she'll be transferred.

I feel like that video should have been ample evidence to bring criminal charges against her.

J

originally posted by: theantediluvian
Good grief. She's lucky that kid's mom isn't anything like my wife or she'd be doing 10 days in ICU.

You sound like my husband talking about me. I certainly wouldn't have shed a tear one, if the dad would have went up there and did the same thing.

Anybody who harms those that can not protect themselves don't deserve to draw breath IMO.

Good night, friends. I'll see you tomorrow.

Be blessed

Jas

a reply to: LadyJae

Not that I agree with it but seeing that picture is strange. The exact thing happened to me in kindergarten.

I was lifted so high that my head touched the hallway clock.

But I'm still here.

Peace

Another one of those hogs with mad cow disease.
The people who only gave her suspension should be investigated, then shown the door, right along with this nasty trash teacher. I would love to see drug test results on her. I think all teachers should be drug tested. They talked about it in my state and the teachers went wild, marched on the capitol and stopped it from happening. Gee, wonder why? No kid should have to be around anyone with mad cow disease.

originally posted by: jude11
a reply to: LadyJae

Not that I agree with it but seeing that picture is strange. The exact thing happened to me in kindergarten.

I was lifted so high that my head touched the hallway clock.

But I'm still here.

Peace

And stronger for it, I'm sure. But that doggone sure doesn't make what happened to you right!

Be blessed, Jude
J

originally posted by: Fylgje
Another one of those hogs with mad cow disease.
The people who only gave her suspension should be investigated, then shown the door, right along with this nasty trash teacher. I would love to see drug test results on her. I think all teachers should be drug tested. They talked about it in my state and the teachers went wild, marched on the capitol and stopped it from happening. Gee, wonder why? No kid should have to be around anyone with mad cow disease.

I agree, Fylgje! I feel like the whole darned thing has been mishandled.

Drug testing should be mandatory along with a full psychological profile and deep background check...for starters.

J

I imagine that were there no cameras present, the teacher in the video would not even be suspended, as it would likely have turned into a case of hearsay. I would guess that there are a lot of teachers that display oppressive/abusive behavior and never get caught or disciplined at all. Some ways that I would suggest avoiding situations like this (for reasonable people only!):

1. Parents must teach their children that they have certain inalienable rights, and give them your full permission to stand up for and express those rights, no matter the consequence. All too often these days, parents are teaching their children to obey "authority figures" at all times, without thought or question. Many just wish to avoid confrontation themselves. Raise good citizens, not robots. You don't have to be unreasonable to stand up for rights!

2. Be aware of who your children's teachers are, and meet with them as often as you can in the early school year. If within reason you are not happy, DEMAND a change of class. If that option is unavailable to you, make sure you discuss your concerns directly with the teacher, and in front of the school administrator. Do NOT fear retaliatory action toward your children when handled this way. Keep notes in front of them, and make them aware how diligent you are. It is hard to believe that the whole school year went by without this teacher having some kind of negative reputation. Catch it early, and smash it hard. Get together with others who share your concerns and do it together.

3. Be active in local community/school board meetings, or at the very least, read the schools regulations and disciplinary policies and review them with your children (cliff notes version of course!). This way, when something does happen, you can act swiftly and know your options.

Finally for your enjoyment,

Flashback! 1980's NYC, Arktos1, a Hellene in a catholic school, 6th grade. Oppressive nun with a record, 6 foot tall and shaped like a tree log. Arktos1 being a class clown again, Ent-nun becomes displeased and grabs him by his tie and drags him across the floor. Arktos1 choking, seeing stars. Shocked classmates screaming and pleading for her to let Arktos1 go.

Arktos scrambles to his feet, gets a slap in the head, pivots, kicks Ent-nun in the leg and thrust punches her, center trunk. He runs out of class, straight to principals office. Mother comes to school. 2 weeks later, Ent-nun transferred to California, Arktos1 expelled. Mother cuts deal not to press charges if Arktos1 let back in school. Arktos1 becomes disappointed Mother for the rest of his days.

a reply to: theantediluvian

No doubt.

Unbelievable.

I'd like to try and not judge because I realize schools are totally broken and ineffective but dang! It's a kindergartener! A mere babe.

Maybe she just needs to retire somewhere and change her name...

a reply to: Arktos1

solid, well-written points, Arktos!

And I agree, had there been no camera this thread wouldn't have been written. I still feel this wasn't the first time she manhandled a child. She didn't even bother to check if she was being seen.

Aw, Arktos, don't feel so bad toward your Mom. You may not yet know everything that went on behind the scenes between your Mom and the school board(?). Perhaps its time to ask her why she handled it that way. You may be surprised at her answer.

J

a reply to: kosmicjack

Yes, a babe. Just a little fellow.

I try to keep an open mind and not be judgmental. However, I can't think of any reason that display of blatant bullying should or could be justified.

I am a peaceful soul, but that set my blood to boiling.

J

that was a horrible video the poor kid....so if he was coming out of the bathroom isnt that the room the teacher and him enter at the end of the video? if it is why was she walking a little boy in to the boys bathroom...did she know there was a camera?

www.msnewsnow.com... ntent=buffera3ab2&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer&autoStart=true&topVideoCatNo=default&clipId=10158129 this link had the longer video where she walks the kid back into the bathroom


from above link you can actualy see the camera move and pan so it seems some one was in direct control of the camera during the incident

originally posted by: jude11
a reply to: LadyJae

Not that I agree with it but seeing that picture is strange. The exact thing happened to me in kindergarten.

I was lifted so high that my head touched the hallway clock.

But I'm still here.

Peace

I am too Jude, and I profess we are less than if we weren't attacked
by our supposed protectors. Got it myself all the way through grade
school off and on, in a place that was supposed to be "better' than that.
The Prussian Model has been implemented about 200 years too long IMO:
and invented by the real child molesters.

Yeah, but we all got some scars. "EV-erybody comes from a dysfunctional
family." John Bradshaw PhD.
Chalk it up to my turn-the-cheek brainwashing that the town is still there...
Payton Place on psychotropics, and directed by Sam Peckinpah by now.

I won't go back to that town I grew up in anymore; because it must by now
contain a large percentage of inhuman beings with their souls gouged out.

He gets to wear that scar the rest of his life, and she gets ten days.
I can see it in his eyes. 'They' took something very important from him;
maybe in the long run the greatest injustice is they won't be around for
what they replaced it with-- and the matured boil to pop.
N: "D_, you're so full of poison."
D: "You've known me forever, and you have no idea..."

Never let a good trauma go to waste. I'm glad to be nowhere near there
right now, because there may not be enough money to get him back.
I'm done for, but you can stop it from happening to yours. Get them OUT.

a reply to: LadyJae
Thank you for this post J. It's the most important thread on
the board without question. If I could give you a flag each
from my self, and inner child, I would. I expounded a little
too much in response to Jude later, but have no regrets.

The abuse and hate chain has to stop somewhere. Look in
his eyes for the glaze.. a young soul has been damaged. The
remedy for this is far off the T&C... and I won't bring it up.

I would DEARLY love to reproduce EACH action on her..with a little ebelishment by actually picking her up.That kid will have VERY nasty repercussions now.

originally posted by: LadyJae
a reply to: benrl

Not everyone is fortunate enough, benrl, to home-school their children. And while that is a solid solution for our own children, what about the ones trapped in this sorry system?

That is what frustrates me so badly about this. Essentially, there is NO solution but to home-school. There is no "perfect" school, there are no completely "trust-worthy" educators. In this sick and twisted world of today, most everyone and everything has a price. In this case, the price is our children's future.

J

Fortunate enough?

I was unaware that the Unfortunate could not show an interest in the raising of their child?

Harder? yes, impossible ? No.

You would be amazed how much an interested Adult can effect a childs life and education.

Stop looking for government to solve your problems.

We have become a nation of "what do I do?!?!"

What happened to taking matters into your own hands?

IF its important, you do it.

Your child, Your responsibility to raise it.

The lack of personal responsibility the nanny state creates is absurd.

What we face now is the end result of years of Lack of accountability in our society on every level.

DON'T get me wrong, I truly believe science and education, to be the only thing that can save our society at this point.

The only problem, is everyone's too busy with "what do I do"

DO something, ANYTHING.

GO tutor a child in your community, Government clearly is not the answer.

We are on a sinking ship, stop waiting for the Answer and just start bailing.

Lend your time to help out at a school.

It takes a village and all that.

originally posted by: derfreebie
a reply to: LadyJae
Thank you for this post J. It's the most important thread on
the board without question. If I could give you a flag each
from my self, and inner child, I would. I expounded a little
too much in response to Jude later, but have no regrets.

The abuse and hate chain has to stop somewhere. Look in
his eyes for the glaze.. a young soul has been damaged. The
remedy for this is far off the T&C... and I won't bring it up.

derfreebie, it is never too late. While there is breath, there is hope and another chance.

Ian's parents hold the same concerns. He is afraid of Ms. Williams and, while he's in another classroom now, he's afraid he'll meet up with her. So, yes, this will affect him for many years to come.

I think most of us have encountered "that" teacher, at least once, while we attended school. I was lucky to have parents that were actively involved and had no problem with calling out mistreatment.

Thank you for taking the time to comment

J

originally posted by: cavtrooper7
I would DEARLY love to reproduce EACH action on her..with a little ebelishment by actually picking her up.That kid will have VERY nasty repercussions now.

In the longer version of the video, she does pick Ian up...by the shirt & face!

As I said before, if this was my child, she and I would "accidentally" meet up in the parking lot of her grocery store.

J

a reply to: benrl

I believe "fortunate" to be the correct adjective. There are many different and valid reasons why one is unable to home-school their child(ren)...from the necessity of providing income to a lack of personal education. In my state, at least, one cannot home-school their child beyond the level of education personally accomplished.

Personally, I am active in the education of the little ones entrusted to my care. I've raised my own children, two nephews, three foster children, two adopted children, four grand-children, and currently caring for two more of my grandchildren. My voice is recognized if I call the schools, and the personnel there know me by sight. I participate in every way I know how...from local PTO meetings to School Board meetings. However, I can only do so much myself. It does take a village...a nationwide village.

I don't think any of us here actually expect our government to solve our problems. I would go so far as to say most of us here think our government is the problem.

The purpose of this thread was to not only make Ian's plight known, but to remind us that his situation is not unique. It happens every single day in every state. Until such time as the schools and their personnel are no longer unchallenged in their authority, it will continue.

One doesn't need their own children to be vested in this issue. It should be a concern to every thinking adult.

J

originally posted by: RalagaNarHallas
that was a horrible video the poor kid....so if he was coming out of the bathroom isnt that the room the teacher and him enter at the end of the video? if it is why was she walking a little boy in to the boys bathroom...did she know there was a camera?

www.msnewsnow.com... ntent=buffera3ab2&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer&autoStart=true&topVideoCatNo=default&clipId=10158129 this link had the longer video where she walks the kid back into the bathroom


from above link you can actualy see the camera move and pan so it seems some one was in direct control of the camera during the incident

Yes, that was the bathroom that she took him into. I hate to think what went on out of view. I know Ian's parents stated that he had a bruise on the back of his head, but that probably happened when he was slammed against the wall.

If it hadn't been for another staff member, I suspect this video would have disappeared.

J