Sandy Hook 'Truther' Tells Victim's Mother Her Daughter Never Existed.

OK this really makes me sick! I know a lot of people believe that Sandy Hook never happened but what this guy did is to much.
Many of you know me from past Sandy Hook thread ,as live by Newton and some of my friends lost their kids.

A playground in Mystic, Connecticut, dedicated to a girl shot during the Newtown massacre, is allegedly being vandalized by "truthers" who claim the shooting never took place.

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Mod Edit-- Conversations regarding kids not dying or not having existed are put in the LOL forum. This is not a reflection of the OP or the membership engaging in this conversation, it's simply house keeping.

I have come to realize that humans are capable of believing in anything right after I found out what Scientology is.

I think we all have to realize that crazy people live amongst us.

The other day I read someone claim that the parents of the dead children were all 'stand in actors' .... like a whole town would be able to keep quiet about that? Cold hearted absurdity. It's one thing to question police reports about which weapon was used and if it was an accurate report ... it's another thing all together to claim insane conspiracies that just hurt people who are grieving.

Some people have absolutely no home training and shouldn't leave the house without proper adult supervision. Seriously.

I don't really mind the speculation and I suppose one could say that, fake or not... To do this kind of thing without knowing one way or the other is atrocious, cold hearted, ridiculous, etc. etc. I could go on with a whole list of adjectives that could fit very well, but I will let others find their own.

People. I will never understand this kind of behavior. Feel free to have your conspiracies, but this takes it to a whole other level IMO.

Somebody should have punched him in the eye then tell him their fist didn't exist.

a reply to: nighthawk1954

Once the human brain locks into a judgement it's nearly impenetrable after that. It must be in the wiring.
One way to avoid it is to never let your mind make that final absolute judgement.

Consciously allocate the future possibility of more input data that could reverse the judgement. Try it.

a reply to: ugmold

You want to personally examine a shredded child? You want to caliper the entry wound and claim it's not from the beloved AR15? What degree of proof do you look for to validate a case like this? Are you aware that no burden of proof is high enough for a paranoid mind?
morticians are busy

originally posted by: ugmold
Then I 'd find this behavior disgusting as well.

So you don't think it's disgusting that a stranger walks up to a grieving parent and tells them that their child who died didn't exist .... basically tells that parent that they are liars, etc etc? A person who agrees with that kind of action just as bad as the person who did it.

a reply to: nighthawk1954

Sometimes, these type of actions/thinking seem too ridiculous to me. I can't help but imagine a think tank somewhere, hatching plans like this to discredit the inquisitive minds surrounding events like these. I can totally picture these thoughts being propagandized in order to make everybody else who questions the official stories/institutions look like loons.

- 9/11 - Remember the slew of theories focusing on the ridiculous idea of the planes being a projection or a hologram?
- Sandy Hook - Actors... for real. ACTORS?!
- UFO Phenomenon - The slew of convincing CGI videos that inundate the masses so well that it dilutes anything worth looking at.
- Obama - That whole birth certificate thing. Totally destroyed the image of anybody questioning the president from the conservative right wing.

Etc, etc. It's brilliant and diabolical if true. For example, if I had something to hide and the media went poking around, I would start spreading around that the reason I did whatever it was can be credited to a visitation of mountain yetis I had as a child in Ethiopia. Then I would create a few blogs that fully believed this, complete with videos and picture. Some of them faked and some edited to support the ridiculous claims but, in all cases, easily disproved once you dug a bit. Be just convincing enough to get certain demographics to start spreading stupid chain emails about it so nobody else would want to touch the subject lest they look like idiots or crazy people.

We see this happen all the time. Now... the question is: Is my whole theory a conspiracy or am I spreading it just to make other people look stupid?

a reply to: Cuervo

I think you have nailed it.

it's a shame most people cannot separate the critical thinkers from people that are delusional, and instead choose to lump them in together.

People are insane. Insane morons. I have never even UNDERSTOOD the actor conspiracy as it makes absolutely no sense.

Why use actors and risk 10000 possible failures instead of just killing real children??

Some CTers are delusional. Sandy Hook was fishy but those kids WERE killed that day. By whom or what. IDK.

To any who think it never happened, are you schizo?? How have you progressed this far in life already??


As for the OP. What this guy did is absolutely discusting.

There is plenty of evidence, or lack thereof, to assume that some important part of the story is being withheld from the public; There is no evidence concluding it was a hoax.

While I agree with the man's open-mindedness, I don't think anyone can condone his conclusions or actions.

a reply to: InverseLookingGlass
Of course you must take the extreme root. How about surveillance video of Lanza shooting out the front windows of the school, It was stated that there was a camera there. Or possibly the over 600 kids who were escorted to the Fire House to picked up by their parents which were told by one of the victims families (youtube video deleted of course).

The Media also told us about Weapons of Mass destruction, Sadam was responsible for 911 and countless other lies.

a reply to: FlyersFan

What makes you think this person was a Sandy Hook Truther? Funny how 2 Playgrounds constructed for Sandy Hook victims were vandalized in 48 hours, almost seems planned, and that the vandals took the peace sign down with the proper tools as to not cause even a tiny bit of damage. Get your check book out and buy them a new sign.

a reply to: nighthawk1954

If Sandy hook went down according to the official story, then the act of denying the existence of a victim(child) directly to another victim (the child's parent) is unconscionable.

However, on the flip-side of that coin, if the official story is a fabrication and construct to further some government or other sociopolitical agenda using the media to produce a present or future meme, that is also unconscionable.

So it all comes down to, what is the reality of the event. If all the evidence were released, that would certainly provide for some logical and pointed conversation. Until that occurs, treat the people allegedly involved as victims, with the respect and compassion that you would expect from others if the event was real and treat the government with the contempt they deserve until they provide proof of their story or any of their stories for that matter.

Personally, I don't believe anything the government or mass media says, as it is all agenda driven. However, if someone says their child is dead, you really have to take them at face value, at least in a public/one-on-one situation.

Cheers - Dave

a reply to: ugmold

I understand how requesting that you to articulate the specifics of your construct might seem extreme. Breathe. Can you admit that hypothetically, if 20 children were shredded with a Bushmaster .223 that the rest of us have every right to be outraged and repulsed with your statements?

You replied that if the FBI released the video to you, for your personal examination, and Lanza entered the school with Bushmaster .223, that would be the proof you would need believe events transpired roughly as reported?

Is that correct? Or would you pivot to a CGI editing argument or how it was a Moussad hit team instead of a lone shooter. A gun grabber conspiracy etc.

I'm trying to establish the depth of your particular delusion. I suspect you are a gun fetishist and that is the extreme root. Can you confirm?

So now my question is:

When do we stop calling these conspiracy groups for Truthers? Why not use a more appropriate name.

"Sandy Hook Idiots" come to mind.
"Birther Idiots"
"9/11 Idiots"
Etc.

originally posted by: ugmold
a reply to: InverseLookingGlass
Of course you must take the extreme root. How about surveillance video of Lanza shooting out the front windows of the school, It was stated that there was a camera there. Or possibly the over 600 kids who were escorted to the Fire House to picked up by their parents which were told by one of the victims families (youtube video deleted of course).

The Media also told us about Weapons of Mass destruction, Sadam was responsible for 911 and countless other lies.

Don't want to derail the thread but Sadam had his military use chemical weapons. That is a weapon of mass destruction right there.
I watched a news program where Sadam confirmed that he had more. Just because they didn't find them doesn't mean they don't exist. Iraq has wast deserted lands and once something is burried you have to know where if you want to dig it up again.

originally posted by: lightedhype
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To any who think it never happened, are you schizo?? How have you progressed this far in life already??
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Well. We stopped strangling them at birth. And then gave them rights. Which they abuse. Which we allow them to do. Because it is their right.

originally posted by: ugmold
a reply to: InverseLookingGlass
Of course you must take the extreme root. How about surveillance video of Lanza shooting out the front windows of the school, It was stated that there was a camera there. Or possibly the over 600 kids who were escorted to the Fire House to picked up by their parents which were told by one of the victims families (youtube video deleted of course).

The Media also told us about Weapons of Mass destruction, Sadam was responsible for 911 and countless other lies.

I think when you say "the Media" you really mean to say "the Bush Administration." Even then, the administration was heavily relying on insinuation and omission to link Sadam and 9/11 which only really worked on reactionary morons.