What Happens When You Don't Vaccinate

a reply to: Astyanax

Not perfect, but much, much better than those countries. Really, even the suggestion that they could be compared is a bit disturbing to me, though I understand why you're asking. - See more at: www.abovetopsecret.com...

Yes, I'm asking because you have not specified in which country you live. Thanks for the info.

a reply to: luciddream

Right, because any vaccinated infants made an informed choice and decided it for themselves. Damn hypocrites lol.

It will be interesting to see what the future holds for the young girls who have had the new Gardasil shots that are supposed to prevent cervical cancer. I think they are just guinea pigs - it may reduce population by making them all sterile or causing early cancer - we will just have to wait and see. I am glad I was not given one.

a reply to: Itisnowagain

Are you saying that Africans will stop having sex if they think their babies won't die?

No, they'll just stop having babies.

I suppose you think Africans are a kind of monkey?

originally posted by: Astyanax
a reply to: Itisnowagain

Are you saying that Africans will stop having sex if they think their babies won't die?

No, they'll just stop having babies.

I suppose you think Africans are a kind of monkey?

How will they prevent babies?
African people are not monkeys - they are humans who may not have enough money to buy contraception.

Really???? Why do you suppose that I think Africans are monkeys? Are you trying to offend me or Africans?

The polio vaccine and may other vaccines are made from monkeys and some believe that is where AIDS came from.
All humans are part of the monkey family by the way.

a reply to: Itisnowagain

So the population problems of the world are entirely due to an insufficiency of contraceptives?

Grow up and learn the facts of life.

Oh, and: no human being is part of the monkey family. You appear to be as ignorant of biology as you are of demographics and the importance of immunization. Stick around this thread; you may learn something.

a reply to: Astyanax

why would this come from Pakistan?

a reply to: Astyanax
I am a little confused - you stated that if babies don't die people will have less babies.

Because when people have a reasonable expectation that their children will survive beyond infancy, they have fewer of them.

All I asked is how will people prevent having babies in Africa?

No, they'll just stop having babies.

How will they do that?

a reply to: Astyanax
The 'importance of immunization' may not be quite as straight forward as one with a mind firmly closed may think.
Do you really believe a doctors job is to make you healthy?
www.amazon.co.uk...

I'll tell you what happens if you don't get vaccinated - if you get mumps then there's a chance that you'll end up with permanent hearing damage. Which is what happened to me. Don't be stupid - take the jabs. They're there for a reason.

a reply to: BuzzyWigs

If someone says something, just show them the last section on this page. www.mayoclinic.org...

I wouldn't feel guilty, just because you have an immune system that can detect parts of the flu virus and attack it doesn't make you inferior to others. Think about it, it is good that your body can detect the flu and attack it, the people who can't have to get shots.

The people in India live in some pretty bad conditions sometimes. They have lots of people. Just think of the mounds of toilet paper there would be in their sewers if everyone used toilet paper. It seems only sensible that they would not use toilet paper too often. They also eat a lot of turmeric there which has a lot of antibiotic properties. They have been using natural medicines in their foods for thousands of years. They were big suppliers of herbs and spices to the world throughout history. Hermes actually capitalized on their knowledge, initiating trade with India long ago. Whether Hermes was a real person is debatable, since he had god status because of his trade. It may have been the god that governed trade also. Much of our modern medicine is based off of plant medicines, other medicine is based off of secretions and the flesh of specific animals. Some is based on what the sea provides while some is taken from the minerals of the earth.

a reply to: AngryCymraeg

I'll tell you what happens if you don't get vaccinated - if you get mumps then there's a chance that you'll end up with permanent hearing damage.

Now that you mention it, I got mumps too (the sickness, not the vaccination)!!
No hearing damage (I don't think...but I guess it's possible. Never been tested).

a reply to: BuzzyWigs
No YOU didnt many do.

Just because you catch a infection doesn't mean you will get all symptoms or all complications.

a reply to: rickymouse

I worked with kids for many years. Decades. It is said that the older one gets, the more immune they become to viri and bacterial infections.....

particularly mothering/caregiving for babies. Eventually you get exposed to just about everything, and get sick less often.
I haven't been sick in probably 15 years. From anything.
Interesting.

a reply to: crazyewok

Yes, I realize that. Thanks for pointing it out.

originally posted by: rickymouse
They also eat a lot of turmeric there which has a lot of antibiotic properties. They have been using natural medicines in their foods for thousands of years. They were big suppliers of herbs and spices to the world throughout history.

Yes that is true - I watched a program about how Indian food is prepared not just as food but it is medicine as well! The herbs and spices are good for the body.
Food in the west is just seen as food, fuel. Maybe if there were no vaccines we would have to eat more healthily and would realize how important it is to put the right things inside us.
Pharmaceutical companies make a lot of money and they wouldn't if we were taking care of ourselves by eating the right things.
The establishment encourages you to eat wrong because it makes pharmaceutical companies more profit. They are all in it together. If doctors didn't sell drugs they wouldn't be doctors. Didn't they burn the witches?

a reply to: BuzzyWigs

As we get older, we gain immunological memory, in our cells. We stockpile chemicals to fight diseases. These chemicals can also hurt us if released too fast. We need to fight things to use them up a little. We fight diseases when they start and we don't get so sick from them when we age, but getting one our bodies can't figure out can cause us to over respond sometimes. The vaccines stick the virus excretions or sometimes dead cells in our body to build antigens and train our bodies. That is not a good idea for some of us, those can trigger a cykotine storm. Our body senses a pathogen in the body. It throws everything it has at it sometimes to destroy it. This gives us major flu type symptoms....without having the flu.

That is just the way some of our bodies work. I do not feel inferior because I have immunity and I don't discourage those who need the shot not to have it either. If they get sick from one, they will know not to have it again. That is if they are smart enough to see what is happening.

a reply to: Itisnowagain

Hey, doctors need work too. So do a lot of people in the medical industry. I see that they are just trying to look out for their coworkers to make sure they stay working. They will continue interpreting things to fit their beliefs and continued employment. Would you question whether the job you are working at is really needed if you went to school for six years to learn how to do it? Healthcare workers are necessary, but not at the expense of our continuing illnesses.

originally posted by: rickymouse
a reply to: Itisnowagain

Hey, doctors need work too. So do a lot of people in the medical industry. I see that they are just trying to look out for their coworkers to make sure they stay working. They will continue interpreting things to fit their beliefs and continued employment. Would you question whether the job you are working at is really needed if you went to school for six years to learn how to do it? Healthcare workers are necessary, but not at the expense of our continuing illnesses.

Doctors have learned what they have been taught - I have been told by an ex GP what it is all about - now he is no longer in that system he can say what it is all about. There was a tv program about it the other week
It is possible to see how much your doctor gets from the pharmaceutical companies now so it may change soon.
Highly trained professionals are good repeaters - good at keeping the system going.
The pharmaceutical company is paying your doctor.

originally posted by: UNIT76
a reply to: Astyanax

those bloody taliban again, eh?

 

/offtopic?
can you sleuth out why the system asserts baby formula trumps breast milk, yet allows a UK store to peddle ice-cream made from breast milk?

"The system" as you call it doesn't assert that formula trumps breast milk. Government advice for many years has been that breast milk is best. Same as what common sense says.

As for anti-vaxxers, there is a special place in hell left for them. Herd immunity is a wonderful thing and these morons are jeopardising that.