Is the NBA Rigging Games?

TBH I care nothing for sports....don't watch don't bet, don't care....
The league rigs whatever they think can be gotten away with...that much seems obvious to me......

All pro sports are rigged. Don't like it, jump on the bandwagon of the team they want winning, or stop watching sports. I stick with my Philly teams, and we will never win a title for anything, besides maybe football now with Chip Kelly as coach, and a young star QB Nick Foles!

Anyone who watches the NBA will tell you that the NBA influences the outcomes of their games. I wont go so far as to say 'rigging', but it is undeniable that certain players and certain teams get the benefit of calls at crucial times.

A prime example is games 6 of the blazers-rockets series this year. Twice in the last minute the refs gave the ball to the rockets in the last 90 seconds of the game on calls that CLEARLY should have gone the other way. Luckily, in Portland, we keep calm and let Lillard handle it.

Why would the NBA have wanted the rockets to win that game? Bigger stars, and, even more so, they wanted as many game 7's as possible to take the attention off of the recent PR fiasco with sterling.

a reply to: rickynews

The NBA has the worst track record of the games being fixed IMO.
Been hearing that since I was a wee lad.
NBA games come down to free throws, and refs control the free throws, simple equation.
And the players can be bought in all sports.

As for the our Olympic teams, the us has been dominating that scene for a while. The women more then the men but the men hold their own.
And they take pro players, they take an all star squad...

a reply to: crankyoldman

But I"ll add one thought you most likely do not know about - strobe lights. Watch a game on TV tonight and look for the flashes.

Those are flashes for pictures. They give certain media members pocket wizard flash triggers for their photographs, not sure who all gets one, but I know Sports Illustrated does. That is pretty common knowledge really, my dad told me that well over 20 years ago, that those flashes are for photos.

You could probably throw the NCAA in there as well 12 billion is pent in March gambling on that tournament thats a lot of reasons to throw a game if those with the money want you to.

a reply to: rickynews

I'm a sports junky and I've seen many questionable things over the years and I've seen actual scandals and riggings that have happened. Look at a ref named Tim Donaghy.... I also think it goes further than just the games itself. I feel that the NBA has rigged the draft for sometime now too. It's odd how hometown stars find their way back to the city they know so well after being drafted, just look at the draft of Derrick Rose. The Chicago Bulls are a major market team, but their numbers were hurting from not having any sort of star power. So the Bulls entered into the D Rose sweepstakes with a .08% chance of winning that first pick and somehow they secured that pick. Coincidence? I think not... The same could be said about Lebron james. The Cavaliers were a hurting franchise and they just so happened to secure the 1st pick in 2003 to draft their hometown kid from Akron, OH, Lebron James...

I dont know OP, but I have my suspicions. Just last night I was griping about the NBA refs to my friend. I was watching a playoff game (LAC/OKC) and there were two quick fouls on LA star CP3. Then the fouls start being called on OKC and the commentator begins to explain that "...refs are human beings and aren't perfect... they realize they may have made a bad call or two on a star and then begin to call fouls the other way to even out the calls..."

WTF IS THAT?!

Here's the kicker - so the NBA established a new rule regarding "flopping" before this season. They were fining players for fooling the refs by flopping. This rule is basically already forgotten as no player has been fined in months. My point is this, dont penalize the players for flopping (or acting, all major sports are considered entertainment), penalize the refs who cant seem to do their job very well... They are the ones ruining it for me at least. If any of us were as bad at our jobs as refs are at officiating an NBA game (my opinion), we would not a have a job any longer.

If anyone follows the NFL, you'd know they officially consider the sport "entertainment", not a sport necessarily but a reality show. And this is public knowledge and accepted. That should tell everyone a little something about how sports are 'managed' today.

So i just checked my phone to recover text messages about the bad NBA calls i was sending my friend, they're gone. I never delete my texts and texts I made to him days before the NBA texts are still there. Again, WTF is that?!?!

Btw OP, no major sports organizations allow official/referee/umpire criticism ... without penalty/being fined. There is no accountability for officials, thats another shady aspect of sports that I dont appreciate or understand.

originally posted by: khnum
You could probably throw the NCAA in there as well 12 billion is pent in March gambling on that tournament thats a lot of reasons to throw a game if those with the money want you to.

Well, yes, thats what it boils down to.... Money. If there is money to be made (& theres millions to be made every night in the sports arena), there is corruption at some level. Whatever comes in contact with money, becomes corrupt at some level - and sports gambling ... come on ... is corrupt on several levels.

a reply to: six67seven

penalize the refs who cant seem to do their job very well

I personally hate it when players flop, and I think they should be fined. I don't think the refs should be fined, but they certainly should be watching tons of game films to see where they made mistakes. Can't really blame the ref when there are 3 ref's watching 10 people and one of them suddenly goes flying, the assumption is he was pushed. I've seen players not even get touched and flop back and get the foul called. I think if you start fining the refs for calling that, then they will just stop making those calls at all and that would be just as bad.

What really annoys me is the constant travelling. They hardly ever call travelling and they do it constantly. Blatant travelling gets ignored, multiple times every single game. There are plenty of 3-step travels, and even more of moving the pivot foot. If you pay attention to their pivot feet, you'll see at least 5 travels EVERY single game where they moved their pivot foot. It really annoys me, it's such a basic rule. If they're not going to bother calling it they should just change it.

originally posted by: Pimpish
a reply to: six67seven

penalize the refs who cant seem to do their job very well

I personally hate it when players flop, and I think they should be fined. I don't think the refs should be fined, but they certainly should be watching tons of game films to see where they made mistakes. Can't really blame the ref when there are 3 ref's watching 10 people and one of them suddenly goes flying, the assumption is he was pushed. I've seen players not even get touched and flop back and get the foul called. I think if you start fining the refs for calling that, then they will just stop making those calls at all and that would be just as bad.

What really annoys me is the constant travelling. They hardly ever call travelling and they do it constantly. Blatant travelling gets ignored, multiple times every single game. There are plenty of 3-step travels, and even more of moving the pivot foot. If you pay attention to their pivot feet, you'll see at least 5 travels EVERY single game where they moved their pivot foot. It really annoys me, it's such a basic rule. If they're not going to bother calling it they should just change it.

Traveling is one of the major problems that NBA players have when transitioning to International & Olympic competition. Traveling is a basic rule of the game of basketball, except apparently not in the NBA, where it appears to be a much more subjective rule for the referee to call here, maybe there, but not nearly every time it occurs. Not even close.

Some of you may recall fairly recently, within the past season or so, that then NBA Commissioner would not allow All-Star Guard Chris Paul to be traded to the L.A. Lakers. Then NBA Commissioner David Stern stepped in and actually nixed the trade deal - claiming it was not in the leagues best interests...What? ... Why? ... That raised some red flags with me and many others. Chris Paul ultimately wound up with the L.A. Clippers (in the same city as the Lakers ironically).

The point is that teams should be able to make trades without the leagues interference, yet it happened, and to my knowledge, there was never even a reason given, nor a remotely reasonable answer as to why the NBA Commissioner killed the trade deal.

Has there ever been a case of college football games being fixed?

Has there ever been a case of a baseball game being fixed?

Has there ever been a case of a boxing match being fixed?

Has there ever been a case of a soccer match being fixed?

You are living under a rock if you answer no. This means that any event can be fixed. This also means as a fan you have no way of knowing which ones are and which ones are not. Ergo, they are all fixed to one degree or another depending on all manner of things, even some that have nothing to do with the sport itself.

If you think that there are not subtle things going on in the background consider this. The Patriots first Superbowl win. Tom Brady, who has since become some sort of legend, was asked to sit next to the First Lady during the annual state of the union address. Why? He was absolutely nobody at that point, he had replaced another some what legend quarterback. In fact, wasn't Curt Warner a devout Christian and wouldn't that connection to the Bush's love of jesus made him the likely seat mate? Why have any footballer at all? And yet he sat right next to the First Lady just prior to the Patriot Act rampage, an act that just dovetailed nicely with the Patriot Team winning.

Consider the Lion's will never, ever, win a superbowl due to their failure to roll over and throw a championship game - or so some say...

If one game is fixed, they are all suspect, as you cannot know which one's are fixed. It is too important to the leagues, the mob, the casinos and some deeper elements to let the games end fairly.

BTW, why does it matter to anyone other then those who see the film Big Fan as a personal diary?

with the call in last night's OKC clippers game maybe they are rigging games. Bu tno I dont think they are rigging games out right. To get an outcome. it is to difficult to pull off

Coach Doc Rivers says "We got robbed". Expect Doc Rivers to be fined and disciplined by the NBA for his opinion that would bring any suspicion onto the officials.

Video here:

a reply to: rickynews

He did get robbed though. everybody knew it and said it after the game.

IF I was OKC I would not have even celebrated

when you have replay and you use replay and replay shows it clearly going off of the OKC player. Its somehow OKC ball. even though you can;t review a foul.

originally posted by: American-philosopher
a reply to: rickynews

He did get robbed though. everybody knew it and said it after the game.

IF I was OKC I would not have even celebrated

when you have replay and you use replay and replay shows it clearly going off of the OKC player. Its somehow OKC ball. even though you can;t review a foul.

IMO, this is yet another example of the suspicion surrounding the NBA and the conspiracy of fixing games. Why not use replay and get the call right? Why not ensure the integrity of the officials calls, and the game? It makes no sense..., unless there is something hidden - in plain sight.

As predicted, the NBA has fined coach Doc Rivers $25,000 for claiming his team "got robbed" by the Officials. The best way to deal with dissent? Punish and Silence it.

a reply to: rickynews

I don't believe that the games are rigged. My reasons are the players and their competitiveness. Meaning for the games to be rigged the players would have to play a part in literally letting a team coke back from a big lead. On top of that these are professional athletes that have been playing this game since they were kids; so of course they can collectively close a big gap. When you say that the games are rigged that takes credit away from the fine skills of these professionals. Furthermore, there is always this belief that if you can't see the actions of someone in power then there has to be something foul going on. Which is, of course, as I would hope is ridiculous.

a reply to: rickynews

And it will probably go away at the end of the year, it is a slap on the wrist. 25k is nothing to doc
There has always been a zero tolerance policy against bad mouthing officials, which does add to the idea of it being fixed.

I do agree in this case with the Sterling issues going on that the NBA wanted the clippers out, he was just making more and more money for every playoff game they were in.

I do think NBA games are fixed, just because how vital free throws are to who wins the games.
And it would only be the star players in on it, not all of them.