I will be ridiculed for this...but I have to get it off my chest

originally posted by: MarsSentinel
THe electrical grid can (and most likely will) be turned off by the operators of the grid, which is most likely what would happen. The government (as an agent of whatever TPTB) can send we the people into the stone age simply by shutting down the electricity and watching as we consume each other and turn the world Mad Max. It really is that simple. Imagine the cities, emptying out into the suburbs in waves like zombies or army ants, consuming the people and things as the wave proceeds. the phrase "many will prefer death" comes to mind.

but the thing is - all of this is INSIDE the Game.

Our trick is to LEAVE the game, not to play the Final Round. You _can_ do that, and it will be interesting and scary and educational. But you don't have to.

You have to finish your own personal Game, but you do not have to stick around for the Final Scene unless that's why you are here. You do not need to undergo the fear and angst awaiting the ocean to come to a town near you.

So what I am saying is that failure to survive the apocalypse alive on earth is not failure or defeat. Rather, it is only a Path through the Game and, for those paying attention, out of it.

Just do what your impulse is - live your life in love and with compassion, and follow your heart. If that means you feel the urge to take up arms and go rob and steal and kill for some bread and water - that's your Ride, your Game, your stage of spiritual development, and that's FINE. It is where you are.

If you instead choose to care for each other, and to avoid guns and killing for mere survival, that is indicative of where you are as well. Different Rides for different Souls.

I love the way you explained this from such a non-duality perspective.

originally posted by: muzzleflash
a reply to: EviLCHiMP

So you claim you speak to a Source while "meditating"?

I want to test this, please provide proof of any sort.
I always am willing to provide proof of my claims.
Shouldn't all of you have to as well?

Everything I get from the Spirit turns out True when I investigate scientifically to put it to the test.
That's how you get "real confirmation", through skepticism and questioning and experimentation.
"Evidence, Proof".

Look I didn't make it up:
Moirai

In Greek mythology, the Moirai (Ancient Greek: Μοῖραι, "apportioners", Latinized as Moerae)—often known in English as the Fates—were the white-robed incarnations of destiny (Roman equivalent: Parcae, euphemistically the "sparing ones", or Fata; also analogous to the Germanic Norns).

It seems that Moira is related with Tekmor (proof, ordinance) and with Ananke (destiny, necessity), who were primeval goddesses in mythical cosmogonies. The ancient Greek writers might call this power Moira or Ananke, and even the gods could not alter what was ordained.[4] The concept of a universal principle of natural order has been compared to similar concepts in other cultures like the Vedic Rta, the Avestan Asha (Arta) and the Egyptian Maat.

It seems that originally the word moira did not indicate destiny but included ascertainment or proof.

Tekmor

Tekmor is a mythical primeval Ancient Greek goddess, related with the limit and end of life. In the cosmogony of Alcman (7th century BC), she appears together with Poros (path) immediately after the creation. Tekmor may be related with the Homeric Moira and with Ananke, (necessity) the primeval goddess of inevitability in Orphic cosmogony.

The word is related with the English word token meaning sign, evidence, which is derived from the PIE base *deik- to show. Old English tacen (sign, symbol, evidence), Old Norse teikn (zodiac sign, omen, token), Gothic taikn, (sign, token).[5] The relative Sanskrit word Iaksmlka meaning mark, sign or token, is the root of the name of the goddess Laksmi.[6][7]

Show us a Sign !
Throw us a Token!
Scry us some Evidence!

Ha, that is what we are all looking for. A sign, a token, evidence.

But it's easier said than done.

Even if there is a God, I don't think he is even capable, much less willing to send us proof of his existence. Can you send proof to an ant that you exist? Any proof you send it will confuse it in the best case and destroy it in the worst case.

originally posted by: whatnext21
a reply to: intrptr

Great book I have read it too. Who knows I have no doubt that this will one day come to pass. Humanity has been very lucky to this point. With new meteor shower (storm) set to happen on the 24th of this month from comet 209\P Linear who knows the size of the debris we will pass through?

Also the Comet itself they all say it is small but then I read the size is unknown. Some of this ruble could be large as it has not been weeded out yet over time. So since it is in a few days we will know soon enough.

Comet 209P/LINEAR

Indeed, given the current orbit of the comet, all the trails ejected between 1803 and 1924 do fall in the Earth’s path in May 2014! As a consequence, this shower might as well be a storm."

www.space.com...

Then there is my own waking dream concerned with May also

www.abovetopsecret.com...

a reply to: EviLCHiMP
Can you answer this question please,
Why do you believe it to be a vision of the future?
Could it not just be an episode of some sort? Not exactly a dream or the like, but just an overall image of an image if you know what i mean.
Who's to say its a vision of the future?

originally posted by: muzzleflash
a reply to: EviLCHiMP

So you claim you speak to a Source while "meditating"?

I want to test this, please provide proof of any sort.
I always am willing to provide proof of my claims.
Shouldn't all of you have to as well?

Everything I get from the Spirit turns out True when I investigate scientifically to put it to the test.
That's how you get "real confirmation", through skepticism and questioning and experimentation.
"Evidence, Proof".

Look I didn't make it up:
Moirai

In Greek mythology, the Moirai (Ancient Greek: Μοῖραι, "apportioners", Latinized as Moerae)—often known in English as the Fates—were the white-robed incarnations of destiny (Roman equivalent: Parcae, euphemistically the "sparing ones", or Fata; also analogous to the Germanic Norns).

It seems that Moira is related with Tekmor (proof, ordinance) and with Ananke (destiny, necessity), who were primeval goddesses in mythical cosmogonies. The ancient Greek writers might call this power Moira or Ananke, and even the gods could not alter what was ordained.[4] The concept of a universal principle of natural order has been compared to similar concepts in other cultures like the Vedic Rta, the Avestan Asha (Arta) and the Egyptian Maat.

It seems that originally the word moira did not indicate destiny but included ascertainment or proof.

Tekmor

Tekmor is a mythical primeval Ancient Greek goddess, related with the limit and end of life. In the cosmogony of Alcman (7th century BC), she appears together with Poros (path) immediately after the creation. Tekmor may be related with the Homeric Moira and with Ananke, (necessity) the primeval goddess of inevitability in Orphic cosmogony.

The word is related with the English word token meaning sign, evidence, which is derived from the PIE base *deik- to show. Old English tacen (sign, symbol, evidence), Old Norse teikn (zodiac sign, omen, token), Gothic taikn, (sign, token).[5] The relative Sanskrit word Iaksmlka meaning mark, sign or token, is the root of the name of the goddess Laksmi.[6][7]

Show us a Sign !
Throw us a Token!
Scry us some Evidence!

Ah I apologize, I have overlooked this post in this thread. Yes, when speaking with my Source it does show me truths. I have been guided by this Source since I have been aware of it, it manifests what I will it to but I do not impose on it's Truths because they are solemnly up to my interpretation as is everyone elses. I will not make such claims as to have advanced knowledge, my knowledge is purely acquired by means of experience and I wish not to place any judgement or label upon them.

If proof is what you seek I shall attempt to procure something of value.

Thank you for your insights my friend.

As far as the link in the above posting: May 17th is Julain Date 137 for the year 2014. In this thread, the poster said his tsunami dream was for May 13, 2014. So there's that. And as far as OP's mountaintop scene - retreating from a tsunami would get you on high ground. THe bigass wave in people's dreams is not unusual. I have had big wave dreams and ship capsizing dreams my whole life. Also dreams of an invisible something trying to get me and I am inside a building, hiding from the windows while the thing is outside. I never see it.

Why would the terrorists know to shut down the power grid in California (and elsewhere) at the same time a naturally-occurring comet/meteor impact was taking place? Wouldn't it be overkill and coincidence that these two disasters were occurring simultaneously? Not ridiculing you, OP...just asking.

originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: parad0x122

Yes, because clearly our subconscious and dreams must obey the laws of physics…..

No, because any claims of prophetic vision need to be accurate.

Being pulled up in the spirit and "shown" the future is a compelling experience. The "seer' is granted, indeed infused with awareness to insure the message gets across. Missing such main elements of an asteroid strike as the "light" produced by the fireball and the reports of sonic booms heard much later is not "obeying the laws of Physics" but rather remembering vividly what the spirit has revealed to us.

I think you, I and the OP would remember that. If not, then maybe it wasn't as prophetic as the OP implied. He was very specific about it.

In some instances it is not the same.

eyewitness accounts of the Tunguska Event.
www.vurdalak.com...

The sky was completely clear, there were no clouds. He had gone into the bath-house (in the yard), and had just taken off his outer shirt, when suddenly he heard sounds resembling cannon fire. He immediately ran out into the yard, which opens to the southwest and west. At that point, the sounds were still continuing, and he saw in the southwest, at a height approximately half the distance between the zenith and the horizon a flying red sphere, and to its sides and behind it there were visible rainbow streamers. The sphere flew for 3 or 4 seconds, and disappeared to the northeast. The sounds were audible during the sphere’s flight, but they ceased right away when the sphere disappeared beyond the forest. [1]

a reply to: EviLCHiMP
Youre welcome friend. And in agreement with something else you said here? If you feel strongly about something youve seen, heard or felt during your "travels"? Say it. I know enough about these things to know when to say it, when to get it out there...and when to be quiet about it.

Never stifle yourself or hold back. We both know thats how this works...if it needs getting out...and your intuitions speaks that....then by all means. Dont hold back.

U2U me sometime?! MS

>>>EviLCHiMP

Being of a similar age to you and i can empathise with your views on the world and where you fit in it could you point me in the right direction for meditation techniques. By reading your post i can see it took a long time to fine tune your methods and have probably tried alot of hyped up mechanisms to induce some state of mind. I am only starting out on my journey and have experimented with different brain waves and binaural tones to silence my inner voice that just wont let me relax. Recent events in my life have started me on a path to try to understand the brain and the reality which it manifests. My partner woke up one morning and out of the blue with no previous medical history etc and thought for a previous week she was kidnapped etc. Obviously this didnt happen and she was diagnosed with a mental illness with psychotic delusions. Apart from turning our world upside down it opened my eyes to how to brain can easily create a reality that is false to us but ever so real to the person. Do you think your vision was your brain feeding off your and others worry about the future or do you think other stimuli was channelled in from another dimension or outside source?
Is the brain receiving a reality and trying to make sense of it or is the brain manifesting this reality in order to make sense of within?

originally posted by: SecretKnowledge
a reply to: EviLCHiMP
Can you answer this question please,
Why do you believe it to be a vision of the future?
Could it not just be an episode of some sort? Not exactly a dream or the like, but just an overall image of an image if you know what i mean.
Who's to say its a vision of the future?

Your signature made momentarily think there was a swarm of flies in front of my screen. lol!

My reasons for believing it to be so is based on many experiences in meditation of which I practice many forms of. For years I have willed myself awake whilst in the R.E.M cycle of my sleep, playing around with what I could accomplish and getting a familiar feel of the experience and it's "presence". Other times I have willfully ventured out of body, I have witnessed the silver chord attached to my naval while in this experience, this being the main contributor to my familiarity of the conditions within that experience.

Now with this experience it was neither, I was merely enjoying an extended inward meditation, resting my consciousness within a distinct vicinity of my heart where I have found my Source or Soul. When in this state of meditation I only witness inner visions of pure energy as my will in this state is to gain experiences with the knowledge this Source has to convey. I've used this type of meditation to gain understandings of the World, Humanity, and Creation in general, which while in this state pure intellectual energy perforates my body as vast concepts of thought are made clear to my understanding. With that in mind I was in this state of meditation when I felt an urge to will a response from this Source pertaining to how these current times will unfold and as to how this paradigm will reach it's conclusion in order for the future generations to return to oneness with Creation. That's when this entire experience began, I do not believe I willed any of it but there is always that possibility.

All I can truly say is I do not know what it meant, all I know is what I saw and how it was capable of destabilizing my inner peace that I have held intact for so long.

I hope this answers your question my friend! Please let me know if any further explanation is needed.

a reply to: EviLCHiMP

Great essay. You have said somethings I am on common ground with. Perhaps we are at what amounts to the end. In any shape, you still have a job to do, as do I. For if this surely comes true, me and you will meet; Our God has that one last mission for us. You know what it is, as well do I. Within reason, we can resolute.

originally posted by: IAMTAT
Why would the terrorists know to shut down the power grid in California (and elsewhere) at the same time a naturally-occurring comet/meteor impact was taking place? Wouldn't it be overkill and coincidence that these two disasters were occurring simultaneously? Not ridiculing you, OP...just asking.

Ah I have created another misunderstanding! I apologize my friend and I will explain this. When this vision began I was already out of my city and relocated to what I believe was Palomar Mountain and somehow already knew the experiences that led me to the mountains to begin with. What I believe was a terrorist attack did not occur like an attack, on a random day the power just shut off, everything, and nobody at least in my direct knowing was aware of what caused it. People were discussing the possibility that terrorists caused it but that was only a theory within the vision, but to get to the point, everyone even myself were so preoccupied trying to figure out why no military or government interventions were occurring that we were all completely and utterly caught off guard by this asteroid/meteor impact.

It felt real, the situation felt as if there were no over-dramatizing events, and the sense of it all felt unlike anything that has been portrayed by any form of human creation (i.e movies, tv shows, books, etc).

I hope this makes sense in response to your question and I thank you for your discernment.

originally posted by: spartaocean
a reply to: EviLCHiMP

Great essay. You have said somethings I am on common ground with. Perhaps we are at what amounts to the end. In any shape, you still have a job to do, as do I. For if this surely comes true, me and you will meet; Our God has that one last mission for us. You know what it is, as well do I. Within reason, we can resolute.

Thank you very much my friend and I absolutely agree with you as well!

originally posted by: liteonit6969
>>>EviLCHiMP

Being of a similar age to you and i can empathise with your views on the world and where you fit in it could you point me in the right direction for meditation techniques. By reading your post i can see it took a long time to fine tune your methods and have probably tried alot of hyped up mechanisms to induce some state of mind. I am only starting out on my journey and have experimented with different brain waves and binaural tones to silence my inner voice that just wont let me relax. Recent events in my life have started me on a path to try to understand the brain and the reality which it manifests. My partner woke up one morning and out of the blue with no previous medical history etc and thought for a previous week she was kidnapped etc. Obviously this didnt happen and she was diagnosed with a mental illness with psychotic delusions. Apart from turning our world upside down it opened my eyes to how to brain can easily create a reality that is false to us but ever so real to the person. Do you think your vision was your brain feeding off your and others worry about the future or do you think other stimuli was channelled in from another dimension or outside source?
Is the brain receiving a reality and trying to make sense of it or is the brain manifesting this reality in order to make sense of within?

Amazing discernment my friend! For meditation techniques what helped me truly make conceivable progress was incorporating Taoist and Buddhist breathing techniques into my every moment of awareness, meaning if I found my attention had drifted away from focusing on breathing I would redirect it and keep trying. After awhile I was naturally doing it without having to force my attention to it, it became natural. After this step I redirected my pursuits to stilling the chatter in my mind. My meditation method for this was to place my awareness that I normally perceived as being in my head or behind my eyes in to my heart. To do this I imagined, meaning I pretended my source of awareness was centered in my chest, looking up at my mind in the same fashion you look through your eyes at perceived objects outside of you. After placing my attention in this fashion I would hold it there all day for as long as my attention would stay on it, then after catching myself wandering I'd just simply re-direct it back to my heart/chest. By holding my attention there I was able to perceive my minds chatter more clearly and in doing so I was able to let each thought pass through my mind like a bird swooping by your head. As well with this in time it became automatic and I did not have to focus so hard on achieving it, it was at this point my sitting/inward meditations took on entire new levels of depth and experiences.

As for how I know it was a future premonition, I can not say exactly. I just know it was beyond what I willed to perceive.

Thank you for your response, if you have any other questions or need more explanations please don't hesitate to ask!

Edit: I completely forgot to add that when I say I incorporate these mediation techniques into my every day I mean it as I consciously practice these techniques as I am working, driving, shopping, eating, conversing with friends, etc. I felt this was important to add.

Double post

Interesting, not a bad worded/explained thread.

Though, I'd have to side with a over active imagination, or perhaps you were in a sleep like state seeing a vivid dream.

On top of that, you were requesting that you wanted to know what was wrong with the world, and then you were shown some sort of catastrophe. So to me, perhaps your ego or subconscious mind created a scenario that you would imagine would happen in such a real event that could happen.

But I will say it looks like it was a positive experience for you, for the most part in the end. Due to the fact you had an epiphany-like realization. Maybe this dream was not predicting anything. Perhaps it was your minds way of saying to live a good life and try to help people do the same. If you were talking to some sort of higher power, I doubt that they would want to scare the crap out of you. Unless it was trying to prove a point. But not a literal death to all point, if you get what I'm saying.

originally posted by: Honcho
Interesting, not a bad worded/explained thread.

Though, I'd have to side with a over active imagination, or perhaps you were in a sleep like state seeing a vivid dream.

On top of that, you were requesting that you wanted to know what was wrong with the world, and then you were shown some sort of catastrophe. So to me, perhaps your ego or subconscious mind created a scenario that you would imagine would happen in such a real event that could happen.

But I will say it looks like it was a positive experience for you, for the most part in the end. Due to the fact you had an epiphany-like realization. Maybe this dream was not predicting anything. Perhaps it was your minds way of saying to live a good life and try to help people do the same. If you were talking to some sort of higher power, I doubt that they would want to scare the crap out of you. Unless it was trying to prove a point. But not a literal death to all point, if you get what I'm saying.

Thank you, and yes I completely understand your point. I believe the biggest positive of it all was in allowing me to hear yours and everyones perspectives and that's something I cherish more than anything because it allows me for a brief moment to see things beyond my self.

Again I thank you for your response.

a reply to: EviLCHiMP

Thank your for your well explained reply. I will try this with many other combinations in order to find the right mix. Also i admire your attitude to those who you see to mock and lack acceptance of your thoughts. I am struggling with this at the minute as it is the most worrying thing i have become aware off. It isnt the frightening truths about wars and total deception of the mass, but it is the unwilling and almost laziness to just lift their head and look around at whats happening with a clear mind. My friends and family members seem more interested in having a drink at the weekend and some celebrity news than the people lying on the streets rejected by the rotten system. Hopefully through these meditation techniques i can find more patience with those who are more willing to fight for their ignorance rather than free their mind. Also the mainstream media of the label conspiracy theory is like a dirty stamp that is ready to ridicule anything that questions the norm. Now the authorities are using it and i feel it wont be long before conspiracy theorists will be seen as conspiracy terrorists.

Heartfelt and seemingly honest... no harm, no foul.

The only conundrum I would face with such knowledge of impending doom would be ... do you tell others if there is no way to avoid it?

I would always go for honesty and say "I'd like to know, thanks for the heads up," yet I would pass if a psychic with a perfect prognostication record offered to tell me the time and manner of my own death. So... ?

But then again, it's very, very likely to be just an impressive message to you, personally. Not to say it couldn't happen any second and will, most definitely, happen sometime in the future. We are going to get hit with an asteroid unless we create methods/tech to avoid it.

I have lived every minute as if it was the last ever since I was informed of death itself, never mind the cold war with nuclear doom hanging over our collective heads... but it gets exhausting and financially unstable at times. Sometimes fooling ourselves is better for our mental health, I think.

But thanks for the heads up, anyway, and here's hoping you were simply misinformed. Those disembodied guys and/or psychic impressions are historically (mostly) full of it.