I will be ridiculed for this...but I have to get it off my chest

a reply to: EviLCHiMP


Do you assume that visions are literal? You may be missing something more subtle by your interpretation of the experience. I believe that people sometimes tap into an inner (or outer) space that contains the seeds of the past, present and future. Visions never turn out the way we perceive them. Just consider the revelations of the bible or the coded prophecies of Nostradamus as prime examples.

Your visionary experience may have been a metaphor for something you should or shouldn't be doing. More than a prophetic warning to the world, it may be a thought feed reflecting something you've ignored in your psyche.

originally posted by: Gianfar
a reply to: EviLCHiMP


Do you assume that visions are literal? You may be missing something more subtle by your interpretation of the experience. I believe that people sometimes tap into an inner (or outer) space that contains the seeds of the past, present and future. Visions never turn out the way we perceive them. Just consider the revelations of the bible or the coded prophecies of Nostradamus as prime examples.

Your visionary experience may have been a metaphor for something you should or shouldn't be doing. More than a prophetic warning to the world, it may be a thought feed reflecting something you've ignored in your psyche.

I try not assume anything about visions, I feel that they aren't meant to be interpreted but experienced so they may be understood if that makes any sense but that ofcourse doesn't apply if one feels compelled to interpret a vision in order to convey it to others. This vision was not like any vision I have ever experienced and I have been experiencing visions for many years now. That's why it came so strongly in the form of me posting it on ATS. I assure you I completely understand your perspective on this as I would have had the same perspective myself if it were not for my being standing witness to such an experience.

The best I can say is I truly don't know what it meant, yet.

Thank you very much for your response my friend!

originally posted by: awakendhybrid
This really does seem to be a very common dream/prophecy/memory. There are many on ATS. I don't know. Maybe asteroid dreams are the way the subconscious gets the needed message across and that is why there are so many. That kind of dream is certainly hard to ignore!

One thing I'll say though is words like, soon and near are subjective and on a totally different time-frame than a human I think.

I see some on this thread who said, like you did, that they felt compelled. I too posted a thread because I felt compelled without reason. Mine, too, had everybody looking up to the sky.

www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1002412/pg1

They really are hard to ignore, it's like we have no choice in the matter lol! What an awesome dream! I've had similar dreams before and they were very overwhelming at times, this is why I felt such a sensational need to post this entirely new level of experience I perceived in the vision I had, believe it or not but it was more realistic than the realist dream. I need to discern how I can elaborate on that better, I feel at times like I am robbing you all of proper understanding due to the limitations I am finding in written language. Does anyone know what I am talking about when I say that?

I appreciate you sharing your dream, I have been having such blissful experiences reading what you and everyone else has to share! Thank you friend!

a reply to: EviLCHiMP
Hello EviLCHiMP,
I didn't read through all the responses but I want to ask if you ever had a dream/vision that actually came true?
Btw, I don't really understand why people here do ridicule this, as today we can see strange things happening in almost every aspect of our lives and we know that everything is possible really. So you may be right, but also.. you may be wrong and it was only a dream, yet it is very interesting at least.
Take care

Sounds like a dream or daydream, mind wandering during meditation. Would like to know your technique for connecting with Source. I also refer to God as Source and have my own experiences with it, and if this were a vision of the future you have nothing to fear as we will all just transition into the afterlife which will be much better anyway.

originally posted by: onthelookout

originally posted by: seentoomuch
a reply to: EviLCHiMP
Please be responsible in your responses. Think. Its not all about you and getting it right or wrong, its about how some people may take it…. watch your words…

How could the OP possibly be responsible for everyone else's responses to his own personal story he has chosen to share with us. That only leads to rampant projection and repression. How about everyone be responsible for their own responses like a healthy responsible adult.

You IMO did not understand what was written in the lines you quoted.

The quote in no way told the OP to "be responsible" for other poster's replies. It was referring to how the OP was responding to everyone else...

...in a way that was, yes, gracious to Everyone that replied...but at the same time was kind of encouraging some posters to get their affairs together and get ready to die (to put it in simple terms.)

It could appear to some that the OP was embracing all the love, and (with it all) the impending doom scenarios that came from others, too.

There is no doubt that letting the people you love them is a great idea and should be done everyday if possible, but instilling an underlying sense of fear with that expression of love could be damaging.

Think of Nancy Lieder. To me that is what seentoomuch was thinking of -- the actions taken by some who heeded her advice sometimes to the point of death or killing pets to avoid the "coming catastrophe".

How about everyone be responsible for their own responses

Your advice is exactly what seentoomuch was saying to the OP.

Of course, JMHO.

a reply to: EviLCHiMP

If you wish to see me as just agreeing with everyone that is your judgement. I have the perception that everyone is entitled to their opinion and by holding that perception I choose to not judge others for what they choose to believe in, but that's just me. So as I said, if you feel the need to judge me and to take an experience that I'm merely sharing with open minded people as me condemning innocent people to die then that is your belief, not my own.

What you may perceive as one judging you (which is means "the evaluation of evidence to make a decision"), may be seen as the other as expressing their own opinions on the topic.

You said above "everyone is entitled to their opinion".

Yes, you are sharing your vision and subsequent responses, repeating a theme, that readers (some with minds maybe so open that they) become influenced by the repetition.

Nobody is saying that your OP shouldn't have been shared.

Just as you have your beliefs others in this thread may not share some of those beliefs of the likelihood of your visions fruition. Those people have a right to express that.

You have perceived some of that as mocking or ridicule, but to me it seems to be those posters (who BTW have not been rude) expressing what they think...just like you are doing.

a reply to: EviLCHiMP

I am receiving very hostile implications in your responses and I know you are aware of what you are saying so please, stop trying to play games.

Is it possible that you are, in fact Percieving hostility?

Perceptions are not the most reliable things sometimes.

I haven't seen any outright hostility towards you.

People speaking about their opinions and concerns? Yes.

Haven't seen the hostility except maybe some growing (IMO) from those who are wholeheartedly taking visions as true prescient warnings -- that perhaps may be taking some offense to replies that are more precautionary warnings to taking everything as fact.

a reply to: intrptr

People that challenge or criticize aren't intending to be disrespectful, they are critiquing point of view (POV) and evidence. Some do it better than others.

I agree.

I haven't seen anyone attacking, being outright disrespectful, or hostile.

(VERY unusual for a thread like this.)

originally posted by: Chamberf=6
a reply to: EviLCHiMP

If you wish to see me as just agreeing with everyone that is your judgement. I have the perception that everyone is entitled to their opinion and by holding that perception I choose to not judge others for what they choose to believe in, but that's just me. So as I said, if you feel the need to judge me and to take an experience that I'm merely sharing with open minded people as me condemning innocent people to die then that is your belief, not my own.

What you may perceive as one judging you (which is means "the evaluation of evidence to make a decision"), may be seen as the other as expressing their own opinions on the topic.

You said above "everyone is entitled to their opinion".

Yes, you are sharing your vision and subsequent responses, repeating a theme, that readers (some with minds maybe so open that they) become influenced by the repetition.

Nobody is saying that your OP shouldn't have been shared.

Just as you have your beliefs others in this thread may not share some of those beliefs of the likelihood of your visions fruition. Those people have a right to express that.

You have perceived some of that as mocking or ridicule, but to me it seems to be those posters (who BTW have not been rude) expressing what they think...just like you are doing.

I understand your position on this but I feel that I am completely capable as a human being of discerning whether someone is sharing criticism or just being rude. I don't need things clarified as I can read very well but I do appreciate the effort.

If your perception cannot see it that does not make him right and me wrong. Do you perceive that you may be over-analyzing? I never said any of my vision was fact, in fact I have stated many times in this thread as in the OP too that I do not wish for this to be true nor do I perceive it as being true, it could have been a dream, or it could have been something else. I do NOT know and I cannot emphasize that enough so there is no need to act as if I am taking it as fact, there is nothing I have said that can be analyzed that way unless someone is trying to be overtly cynical. I have stated that I was distraught when I made the OP, it scared the sh!t out of me.

Now can we please move on from that topic, my thread is not for he said she said nonsense and I'd like to keep it on topic because there are legitimate experiences that others are sharing here and I'd like to focus on them.

Thank you.

originally posted by: Necrose
a reply to: EviLCHiMP
Hello EviLCHiMP,
I didn't read through all the responses but I want to ask if you ever had a dream/vision that actually came true?
Btw, I don't really understand why people here do ridicule this, as today we can see strange things happening in almost every aspect of our lives and we know that everything is possible really. So you may be right, but also.. you may be wrong and it was only a dream, yet it is very interesting at least.
Take care

Excellent question. I have what can be called fore-sights every day, I actually made a game out of it with my friends, family and roommates. I'll get a strong intuitive feeling followed with flashes of images in my minds eye which then in that moment I communicate to the party involved. This happens every day for me but none of the fore-sights could be considered so extravagant as something like a meteor impacting. I'll give you a few examples.

9 years ago I was working at Subway with my co-worker at the time Rosa. She was passing by me and bumped into me and in that moment I got an urge to tell her (and I did) that she was going to be pregnant in 5 months and have a baby boy. She was absolutely weirded out by this but after 3 months I quit that job and started working at Food 4 Less. About a year later I was stocking an isle and suddenly heard someone call my name, I looked over and it was Rosa running up to me crying. She gave me a hug and introduced me to the baby boy in her arms then told me she did get pregnant but didn't realize till she was told by the doctors it was a boy that literally 5 months after I told her she was going to get pregnant she did. Take this as you will.

3 1/2 months ago my good friend Matt introduced me to his co-worker that he was taking out on a date. When he introduced her I shook her hand and got another intuition/vision of her purposely getting pregnant by my friend. I felt compelled to say something so I waited for him to get back from his date so I could talk to him. Later that evening I had a talk with him and told him to be careful with this girl that she might just be trying to get pregnant by him. He laughed and told me it's nothing to worry about, she assured him she was on birth control. After about a month passed by I was at work going on break when I noticed I had 17 missed calls from Matt which is very awkward for him to do because he is the type of guy who doesn't call people, just texts. So I called him and he answered immediately and started shouting "DUDE HOW THE F*** DID YOU KNOW, JESSICA IS PREGNANT AND SHE TOLD ME SHES KEEPING IT!" Now they have a lawsuit going because she doesn't want him in the childs life and he wants her to get an abortion. Take this as you will.

On a daily basis I get these types of visions but they are always about what could be considered petty matters and they are only pertaining to people I have come into physical contact with. If you'd like me to share more personal experiences feel free to U2U me. Thank you for your response!

I apologize if my explanations are a little dull, I literally just woke up

originally posted by: Eonnn
Sounds like a dream or daydream, mind wandering during meditation. Would like to know your technique for connecting with Source. I also refer to God as Source and have my own experiences with it, and if this were a vision of the future you have nothing to fear as we will all just transition into the afterlife which will be much better anyway.

Very true my friend! I choose to refer to God as Source of the Creator because the tendency of others to label one to a religious group when using the term God.

U2U me, I will explain as best as I can how I connect with Source. Thank you for your response!

a reply to: EviLCHiMP

I never said any of my vision was fact, in fact I have stated many times in this thread as in the OP too that I do not wish for this to be true nor do I perceive it as being true, it could have been a dream, or it could have been something else. I do NOT know and I cannot emphasize that enough so there is no need to act as if I am taking it as fact, there is nothing I have said that can be analyzed that way unless someone is trying to be overtly cynical.

Yes, and I never said you did declared it as fact.

If you thought that is what I said, then perhaps misreading things...well, nvm.

If I HAD thought you said your vision was stated by you as a Fact that is to going to come to pass, I would have been asking you quite a few questions as to why you thought that.

Although, as for what I quoted above, your OP included:

I can't explain how I know this but we do not have much time left...

...but my real self, my soul, it knows this is happening and that this cannot be avoided.

but I saw that as Your belief and opinion.

Even though I see it that way, I can't really relate the above "I don't know" declaration with the "I know" that you said a few times in your OP.

That I will point out. a contradiction.
You can see it as rude, "overtly cynical" (though I'm not sure how pointing that out could be "cynical"), or however you wish.

It's not meant to be rude, but an observation.

Now can we please move on from that topic

Well, to be honest, that topic was embedded into the thread from the beginning.

You expected to be "ridiculed for this", but then the few critiques in this thread are met with something approaching indignation.

Many prediction threads are completely torn to shreds. This hasn't been, even though from the first words it nearly invited it.

a reply to: EviLCHiMP

If nothing else, it was an interesting read whether it happens or it doesn't. I'd like to go a bit off-topic and ask how you meditate? I'm thinking of starting to do so (A complete beginner), and any pointers would be helpful.

a reply to: EloquentThinker

ask how you meditate? I'm thinking of starting to do so (A complete beginner), and any pointers would be helpful.

Hi EloquentThinker… I'm going to steer you in the direction of a foundation that taught me a meditation technique which helped me enormously. Heres some links, your choice to take it or leave it. You can't join, he does not claim Godhood and only teaches you how to discover what he did for yourself. Its not a cult or anything like that.

Roy Masters, Foundation of Human Understanding

Now if you get some questions behind looking a little at it and you want to U2U me about it, I can help fill in some blanks.

BTW, I don't practice it any more to my detriment. But people should learn a proper method of discovering ones self. Others might disagree with this particular organization and have their own methods. There are so many, how do we know which one to choose?

originally posted by: Chamberf=6
a reply to: EviLCHiMP

I never said any of my vision was fact, in fact I have stated many times in this thread as in the OP too that I do not wish for this to be true nor do I perceive it as being true, it could have been a dream, or it could have been something else. I do NOT know and I cannot emphasize that enough so there is no need to act as if I am taking it as fact, there is nothing I have said that can be analyzed that way unless someone is trying to be overtly cynical.

Yes, and I never said you did declared it as fact.

If you thought that is what I said, then perhaps misreading things...well, nvm.

If I HAD thought you said your vision was stated by you as a Fact that is to going to come to pass, I would have been asking you quite a few questions as to why you thought that.

Although, as for what I quoted above, your OP included:

I can't explain how I know this but we do not have much time left...

...but my real self, my soul, it knows this is happening and that this cannot be avoided.

but I saw that as Your belief and opinion.

Even though I see it that way, I can't really relate the above "I don't know" declaration with the "I know" that you said a few times in your OP.

That I will point out. a contradiction.
You can see it as rude, "overtly cynical" (though I'm not sure how pointing that out could be "cynical"), or however you wish.

It's not meant to be rude, but an observation.

Now can we please move on from that topic

Well, to be honest, that topic was embedded into the thread from the beginning.

You expected to be "ridiculed for this", but then the few critiques in this thread are met with something approaching indignation.

Many prediction threads are completely torn to shreds. This hasn't been, even though from the first words it nearly invited it.

I am not going to waste my energy anymore responding to fruitless attempts to point out contradictions. You can choose to see this any way you please but I refuse to sit here and give heed to things that are not beneficial to my well being.

What do you want? You want me to say that I'm a hypocrite? Because I am a hypocrite, I'm a human being and I make errors just like everyone else. Are you perfect? No. So move on.

originally posted by: EloquentThinker
a reply to: EviLCHiMP

If nothing else, it was an interesting read whether it happens or it doesn't. I'd like to go a bit off-topic and ask how you meditate? I'm thinking of starting to do so (A complete beginner), and any pointers would be helpful.

I have to run some errands right now but I assure you I will respond to your inquiry as soon as I can. Thank you my friend.

a reply to: EviLCHiMP

So in order to better understand this, are you referring to a form of clairvoyance? As far as you require a physical contact, it's clairsentience... Am I right?

That's interesting.
Have you seen The Conjuring?
There is a woman with such abilities, you can watch it and tell me whether my guess was correct or not.
+ it's probably the best horror movie I've ever seen...by far.

thanx for sharing ... I too, had a vision in a meditation space, in 1988, it was very intense, and real, and was a astral projection ... in it, I was flying over the Earth, looking down at a large area (perhaps somewhere in the middle east), there were two angelic beings at each side of me ... they told me to look down ... and I saw many armies, gathering to do battle ... but all of a sudden, they stopped dead in their tracks, and looked up in the sky, and then put down/abandoned their weapons, and turned around and began going back to their homes ... when I looked up to see what they saw, all I saw was a white flash ... and then found myself back in present time, in my physical body ... it left a lasting memory / impression

originally posted by: [post=17909948]Necrose[/pt]
a reply to: EviLCHiMP

So in order to better understand this, are you referring to a form of clairvoyance? As far as you require a physical contact, it's clairsentience... Am I right?

That's interesting.
Have you seen The Conjuring?
There is a woman with such abilities, you can watch it and tell me whether my guess was correct or not.
+ it's probably the best horror movie I've ever seen...by far.

It is really hard for me to say if its clairvoyance or not as I don't truly have control over it, the best explanation I can give is that it comes in the form of a sudden urge to speak so I just let it come out without even knowing what I am going to say. I've always just accepted it as something that is natural as it has always felt natural to me. I hope this makes sense.

I haven't seen the Conjuring but I have heard it is scary! Lol I'll have to check it out! Thank you for your reply my friend!