Illegal Aliens Commit 13 Child Molestations A Day

originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: imwilliam

I'm with you. I'm not worried about the Mexican immigrants (legal or otherwise). I don't think they're all a bunch of rapists. I think most of them are just looking for a better life. I just think we have a lot bigger problems in this country to be dealing with first before we spend lots of time and billions of dollars trying to keep some poor Mexican immigrants from coming here to dig our ditches, or lay our hot asphalt, or clean our toilets, or mow our lawns.

Stop your nonsense. I never said they were all rapists. What is wrong with you people? You are being childish, hateful and absurd.

Many legal citizens have performed the same jobs by the way.

originally posted by: Night Star

originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: Night Star

None of us alive today had anything to do with that

So then we shouldn't have to follow them then...
Why do we need to enforce something we had nothing to do with?

I don't think there is such a thing as "preventable" crimes, that is a pipe dream.
It is that idea that will lead to the mass giving up its personal freedom, in order to "prevent" crime

Those laws are meant to protect us. It may be ok for you that people come here without a health or background check, but it's not ok with me. What Country doesn't have laws against illegally immigrating?

I think what the OP is saying, is that the level of such crimes (and undoubtedly others) would be significantly reduced if the immigration policy relating to deportation were strictly enforced. And yes, the demographic illustrates that the majority of crimes within the undocumented group is overwhelmingly Mexican, due to the obvious geography of a Latin American border.

They're mainly from Mexico.
According to 2010 Pew Hispanic Center data, 63 percent of unauthorized adults had been in the country 10 years or more."Any place that sends us immigrants, we have some unauthorized immigrants from," Passel says. But around 55 to 60 percent are from Mexico, "which translates to over 6 million people."

Unenforced deportation and other conditions which allow undocumented (virtually unknown people) to commit crimes against persons and simply vanish across a border, represents a costly sacrifice for citizens who must pay on all levels.

Then there is the cost of providing billions in medical, educational and other services to a population that is not accountable financially.

I was pretty involved with the Hispanic community in a large Midwestern city for many years. Among other things, I knew of three several prominent families in the Hispanic community who were able to start small businesses by selling coc aine to their countrymen.

The socioeconomic burden of Hispanic crime in California was so bad that a governor proposed a bill that would have forced all state services to require a citizenship ID, issued by the state of California with a birth certificate or green card. The media was explicit in announcing how Hispanics who had earned their citizenship had voted for this bill because they felt victimized by the crimes committed by undocumented gang members, drug dealers and addicts who committed also were involved in armed robbery. The tax burden was said to be in the billions, for unpaid medical bills, crimes and educational support for the families of illegal aliens.

originally posted by: buster2010
a reply to: LoneCloudHopper2

It takes thousands of dollars for illegals to come to the States, purchase false ID's and get set up. They are NOT poor, innocent refugees by any stretch of the imagination.

Yeah right. Many of them work the debt off once they get here they are practically slaves or at the very least indentured servants. Articles like this are used to purposely distort what Obama's immigration reform really is about. Bill O'Reilly does it all the time.

your wrong about the first law, and here is the second that repealed the 1790 law.

The United States Congress passed the Naturalization Law of 1802 on April 14, 1802 (2 Stat. 153) that directed the clerk of the court to record the entry of all aliens into the United States.The clerk collected information including the applicant's name, birthplace, age, nation of allegiance, country of emigration, and place of intended settlement, and granted each applicant a certificate that could be exhibited to the court as evidence of time of arrival in the United States. This act repealed the Naturalization Act of 1798.

a reply to: Night Star

I have never heard of a pedophile with only one offense.

Well that is perfect logic.....

If these people committed the same crime in their own country then we would not allow them to become citizens here.

Again not true, these crimes go unreported all the time, i am sure you are aware of that

It won't stop all children being abused, but would have saved many. Many of those precious children's lives would not be ruined today.

But that is not true, american citizens are doing this at the same rate...

a reply to: kaylaluv

Yes, I am being a little sarcastic, but that's because I don't think preventing crimes is your real beef here.

Then you have turned this around for no good reason and choose to completely ignore my honesty.

originally posted by: Night Star
It won't stop all children being abused.

Yes you are correct there. It won't. Not by a looooooong shot.

Makes one wonder what the point of your post is.

The comments here are truly sickening. I'm trying hard to keep a form of decorum, so my reply may be short.

For starters, YES, as it stands today this country was formed on immigration. Legal immigration. And how inane some of you people truly are.

Onslaught's reply truly took the cake:

"Demand your children be molested by American grown pedophiles"

Are you this obtuse? Your arguments are filled with over emotional arguments. I dare say you're the poster child for political correctness. "It's OK these illegals rape children, I mean American's do it too". That's basically what you're saying.

The fact of the matter is, if these illegals weren't here, those children wouldn't have suffered. There's a reason why we have immigration laws, some are to make sure that people like this don't make it in. The fact of the matter is, is that these children could have been saved but weren't because idiots like the poster I mentioned above wants to be PC and turn a blind eye to something that could have been prevented but wasn't for "those poor minorities".

Get a grip on reality. # happens, no need allowing it to happen when YOU.CAN.STOP.IT.

originally posted by: NoRulesAllowed

originally posted by: Night Star
It won't stop all children being abused.

Yes you are correct there. It won't. Not by a looooooong shot.

Makes one wonder what the point of your post is.

Just look at the ilst of threads she has created. It'll give you a clearer picture of what the agenda here is

originally posted by: Night Star

originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: imwilliam

I'm with you. I'm not worried about the Mexican immigrants (legal or otherwise). I don't think they're all a bunch of rapists. I think most of them are just looking for a better life. I just think we have a lot bigger problems in this country to be dealing with first before we spend lots of time and billions of dollars trying to keep some poor Mexican immigrants from coming here to dig our ditches, or lay our hot asphalt, or clean our toilets, or mow our lawns.

Stop your nonsense. I never said they were all rapists. What is wrong with you people? You are being childish, hateful and absurd.

Many legal citizens have performed the same jobs by the way.

The article in your OP clearly implies such a thing. It leaves the reader with the impression that sexual molestation is rampant and out of control with illegal immigrants. I don't believe this is true.

originally posted by: Auricom




Get a grip on reality. # happens, no need allowing it to happen when YOU.CAN.STOP.IT.

Yes. You can stop it. 24/7 monitoring and surveillance of everyone, everywhere. That will stop it for sure. No need to allow it to happen when you can stop it, right?

a reply to: Sremmos80

But that is not true, american citizens are doing this at the same rate...

Correct, American citizens are committing the same crimes. I agree with you there and they are just as bad. The point is that the kids who were raped by illegals would have been saved the suffering had our laws been enforced and these people wouldn't have been here in the first place. Some children would have been saved the horror, not all.

originally posted by: Auricom
The comments here are truly sickening. I'm trying hard to keep a form of decorum, so my reply may be short.

For starters, YES, as it stands today this country was formed on immigration. Legal immigration. And how inane some of you people truly are.

Onslaught's reply truly took the cake:

"Demand your children be molested by American grown pedophiles"

Are you this obtuse? Your arguments are filled with over emotional arguments. I dare say you're the poster child for political correctness. "It's OK these illegals rape children, I mean American's do it too". That's basically what you're saying.

The fact of the matter is, if these illegals weren't here, those children wouldn't have suffered. There's a reason why we have immigration laws, some are to make sure that people like this don't make it in. The fact of the matter is, is that these children could have been saved but weren't because idiots like the poster I mentioned above wants to be PC and turn a blind eye to something that could have been prevented but wasn't for "those poor minorities".

Get a grip on reality. # happens, no need allowing it to happen when YOU.CAN.STOP.IT.

Oh my God, someone who gets it! What a breath of fresh air you are! HUGS!!!!
They don't seem to comprehend the word preventable. One word against illegal immigration and it's a witch hunt. I have been unfairly accused of being racist and everything else. People have been hateful and accusing and putting words in my mouth and assuming crap. Wow, Bless you for your comments!

originally posted by: kaylaluv

originally posted by: Night Star

originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: imwilliam

I'm with you. I'm not worried about the Mexican immigrants (legal or otherwise). I don't think they're all a bunch of rapists. I think most of them are just looking for a better life. I just think we have a lot bigger problems in this country to be dealing with first before we spend lots of time and billions of dollars trying to keep some poor Mexican immigrants from coming here to dig our ditches, or lay our hot asphalt, or clean our toilets, or mow our lawns.

Stop your nonsense. I never said they were all rapists. What is wrong with you people? You are being childish, hateful and absurd.

Many legal citizens have performed the same jobs by the way.

The article in your OP clearly implies such a thing. It leaves the reader with the impression that sexual molestation is rampant and out of control with illegal immigrants. I don't believe this is true.

Most sex crimes and rapes are not reported. I should think this fact to be much worse among undocumented workers, who are virtually unknown and have the option of running across the border if things get tough. And reporting molestation and rape would be less likely under the conditions of being without papers in the US. We've heard allot of congressional testimony in the past year about sexual assault of our female soldiers, having been slighted by the highest male authorities until they were literally forced to punish rapists by a presidential agenda and an entire congressional house.

Are you really being intellectually honest in believing as you do?

originally posted by: muse7

originally posted by: NoRulesAllowed

originally posted by: Night Star
It won't stop all children being abused.

Yes you are correct there. It won't. Not by a looooooong shot.

Makes one wonder what the point of your post is.

Just look at the ilst of threads she has created. It'll give you a clearer picture of what the agenda here is

Because I stand up for our citizens? Wow I'm so bad!

originally posted by: Night Star

originally posted by: trollz
a reply to: Night Star

I don't even need to read the rest of the thread to comment here.
Being an illegal immigrant doesn't make someone more likely to be a pedophile/sexual predator... All it makes you is someone who is in another country illegally. Child molestation happens by legal citizens all the same.
Do some illegal immigrants commit crimes? Sure. Since illegal immigrants are people just like anyone else, and some PEOPLE, regardless of citizenship status, do commit crimes.

I never ever said that being an illegal immigrant makes someone more likely to be a pedophile/sexual predator! Did I? No I did not.
Of course we have legal citizens abusing children as well. Where did I ever say they didn't? It still doesn't make it right that illegal immigrants are allowed in. These were preventable crimes.

Molestation is molestation, it doesn't matter whether someone is an illegal immigrant or not. It's the same crime either way and it's still just as wrong, so I think it's kindof inappropriate to make some sort of link between illegal immigrants and sex crimes. It's like a racist person saying "black people sell drugs".

originally posted by: Auricom
The comments here are truly sickening. I'm trying hard to keep a form of decorum, so my reply may be short.

For starters, YES, as it stands today this country was formed on immigration. Legal immigration. And how inane some of you people truly are.

Onslaught's reply truly took the cake:

"Demand your children be molested by American grown pedophiles"

Are you this obtuse? Your arguments are filled with over emotional arguments. I dare say you're the poster child for political correctness. "It's OK these illegals rape children, I mean American's do it too". That's basically what you're saying.

The fact of the matter is, if these illegals weren't here, those children wouldn't have suffered. There's a reason why we have immigration laws, some are to make sure that people like this don't make it in. The fact of the matter is, is that these children could have been saved but weren't because idiots like the poster I mentioned above wants to be PC and turn a blind eye to something that could have been prevented but wasn't for "those poor minorities".

Get a grip on reality. # happens, no need allowing it to happen when YOU.CAN.STOP.IT.

What I think is really hilarious is that you're all assuming that the children molested weren't themselves illegal immigrants which seems pretty reasonable?

Does that completely void the alleged purpose of this thread? Do you care less if those children that you are insisting "could have been saved" were actually members of "those poor minorities?"

As I and others pointed out, legal immigration prior to 1921 (unless you were Chinese, then it's prior to 1875), consisted largely of arriving on our shores and filling out a naturalization form.

This entire thread is built on a user contributed post from examiner.com and is nothing more than an excuse to vilify illegal immigrants as being somehow being more of a potential danger than anyone else.

The fact of the matter is, if these illegals weren't here, those children wouldn't have suffered.

This is flawed.... and that is what every one is saying.
It is just as likely that the same children would have still suffered at the hands of a citizen pervert because american citizens are committing the same crime.
Hard to find the per minute state like this article did for the crime done by citizens.
I am willing to bet it is close to every 13 min tho

a reply to: kaylaluv

Oh yes, putting words into other people's mouths and over-exaggerating! Typical idiocy when one lacks a real rebuttal.

The sheer stupidity shown by people like Kaylaluv and others astounds me. We're on ATS where the motto is "Deny Ignorance", not "Embrace Ignorance" if you haven't understood that yet.

originally posted by: Gianfar

originally posted by: kaylaluv

originally posted by: Night Star

originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: imwilliam

I'm with you. I'm not worried about the Mexican immigrants (legal or otherwise). I don't think they're all a bunch of rapists. I think most of them are just looking for a better life. I just think we have a lot bigger problems in this country to be dealing with first before we spend lots of time and billions of dollars trying to keep some poor Mexican immigrants from coming here to dig our ditches, or lay our hot asphalt, or clean our toilets, or mow our lawns.

Stop your nonsense. I never said they were all rapists. What is wrong with you people? You are being childish, hateful and absurd.

Many legal citizens have performed the same jobs by the way.

The article in your OP clearly implies such a thing. It leaves the reader with the impression that sexual molestation is rampant and out of control with illegal immigrants. I don't believe this is true.

Most sex crimes and rapes are not reported. I should think this fact to be much worse among undocumented workers, who are virtually unknown and have the option of running across the border if things get tough. And reporting molestation and rape would be less likely under the conditions of being without papers in the US. We've heard allot of congressional testimony in the past year about sexual assault of our female soldiers, having been slighted by the highest male authorities until they were literally forced to punish rapists by a presidential agenda and an entire congressional house.

Are you really being intellectually honest in believing as you do?

So because most sex crimes are not reported, you assume that they are all being committed by illegal immigrants? Since most sex crimes happen between people who know or are related to each other, I think that is the reason most are not reported.

a reply to: theantediluvian

I don't see any valid argument against OP's points. The official statistics support her opinions. It looks like some of the comments are just misguided attempts to present this thread as more than it is.