US used Napalm in Fallujah

hey, zcheng isn't banned:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

If they really used Napalm in Fallujah, it's illegal bc there are many civilians there

[edit on 30-11-2004 by poirot]

The US did admit to using Napalm in the attack on Baghdad. You have to pay for this full article unfortunately (From the UK Independent, August 2003), but it contains this quote from Colonel James Alles of Marine Air Group 11:

US admits it used napalm bombs in Iraq

"We napalmed both those [bridge] approaches. Unfortunately there were people there ... you could see them in the [cockpit] video. They were Iraqi soldiers. It's no great way to die. The generals love napalm. It has a big psychological effect."

It's more likely reports like these, and others that may not have even been in the press (MPs do have their own sources) that are raising the questions in Parliament. They wouldn't be raising them solely because of a report in Al Jazeera.

A year and a half later this topic is being resurrected
after numerous accusations of napalm use in Fallujah.
The reason the U.S. press didn't pick up the story?
Iraqis were dragging U.S. bodies in the streets when the story broke.


The San Diego Union-Tribune
August 5, 2003, Tuesday
(edited since the whole article is quite long.)

HEADLINE: Officials confirm dropping firebombs on
Iraqi troops; Results are 'remarkably similar' to
using napalm

BYLINE: James W. Crawley; STAFF WRITER

American jets killed Iraqi troops with firebombs --
similar to the controversial napalm used in the
Vietnam War -- in March and April as Marines battled
toward Baghdad.

(snip)

"We napalmed both those (bridge) approaches," said
Col. James Alles in a recent interview. He commanded
Marine Air Group 11, based at Miramar Marine Corps Air
Station, during the war. "Unfortunately, there were
people there because you could see them in the
(cockpit) video.

"They were Iraqi soldiers there. It's no great way to
die," he added. How many Iraqis died, the military
couldn't say. No accurate count has been made of Iraqi
war casualties.

(snip)

During the war, Pentagon spokesmen disputed reports
that napalm was being used, saying the Pentagon's
stockpile had been destroyed two years ago.
(snip)

Although many human rights groups consider incendiary
bombs to be inhumane, international law does not
prohibit their use against military forces. The United
States has not agreed to a ban against possible
civilian targets.

(snip)
During a recent interview about the bombing campaign
in Iraq, Marine Corps Maj. Gen. Jim Amos confirmed
aircraft dropped what he and other Marines continue to
call napalm on Iraqi troops on several occasions. He
commanded Marine jet and helicopter units involved in
the Iraq war and leads the Miramar-based 3rd Marine
Air Wing.

(snip)

"I used it routinely in Vietnam," said retired Marine
Lt. Gen. Bernard Trainor, now a prominent defense
analyst. "I have no moral compunction against using
it. It's just another weapon."

And, the distinctive fireball and smell have a
psychological impact on troops, experts said.

"The generals love napalm," said Alles, who has
transferred to Washington. "It has a big psychological
effect."

***
And...CNN got confirmation on tape:
CNN
SHOW: ON THE STORY 10:00
November 1, 2003 Saturday
Transcript # 110100CN.V86

(VIDEO CLIP)
UNIDENTIFIED MARINE: We called in with some artillery
and some napalm and things like that. Some innocent
women and children got hit. We met them on the road
and they had little girls with noses blown off and,
like, husbands carrying their dead wives and things
like that.
(END VIDEO CLIP)

CROWLEY: Corporal Casey Brommer (ph) in Iraq
describing a deadly incident there.

Originally posted by Mokuhadzushi
The U.S. military is secretly using banned napalm gas and other outlawed weapons against civilians in the Iraqi city of Fallujah, eyewitnesses reported.

Residents in Fallujah reported that innocent civilians have been killed by napalm attacks, a poisonous cocktail of polystyrene and jet fuel which makes the human body melt.

Since the U.S. offensive started in Fallujah earlier this month, there have been reports of �melted� bodies which proves that the napalm gas had been used.

www.aljazeera.com...

Pure Animalism.

this is just rediculous. If we actually WERE doing this, why the hell would we have ground troops there? We have the most powerful air force in the world. We could easily just do a couple fly overs, and have this done to the entire city in 1 night. Come on people...I know you're smarter than this. Don't believe everything you read. Use some common sense.

"I love the smell of napalm in the morning....Do you smell that? it smells like - VICTORY"

Sorry, it's just such a good movie.

Any ways this has as much merit as the thousands of marines that surrendered to "freedom" fighters in fallujah.

Originally posted by Mokuhadzushi
The U.S. military is secretly using banned napalm gas and other outlawed weapons against civilians in the Iraqi city of Fallujah, eyewitnesses reported.

When was napalm made illegal? I know it was used in vietnam, so it was afterwards?

a poisonous cocktail of polystyrene and jet fuel which makes the human body melt.

Yes, its 'fire'.

Since the U.S. offensive started in Fallujah earlier this month, there have been reports of �melted� bodies which proves that the napalm gas had been used.
Burned and melted slags of flesh are not only produced by napalm. Infact, if there are some burned bodies, it indicates that napalm wasn't used. Napalm is unspecific, and burns everything around it in large areas. i would think that there are chemical residues that are specific to napalm. What labs have shown such things to be associated with these sites? That woudl be good evidence. Not burnt bodies.

Pure Animalism.

No, pure animalism is loppinjg off the heads of aid workers and volunteers and civilians. Napalm is not an animalistic thing, its a violent and messy, but not 'animal'.

so Iran should just retire from the NPT and everyone is happy, is this what you are saying ?

That'd be great if Iran had never even been a part of it. The npt atomic energy commisions and IAEA are all about spreading the peacefull use of atomic technology and help to create these things in non nuke nations. Without all the outside help, Iran wouldn't even have any sort of nuke capability, power or weapons.

aceofbase
Mokuhadzushi seemed to show up when Zcheng was banned

I think they were cotemporaneous no? Zchneg was banned tho? He was extremely incoherent, this one is a little more intelligible than him.

alexofsky
you'll know that it can't possibly be used in "secret

I had been wondering about that too, but theoretically no one would've known what was going on in falluja while the assault was on no?

Also, napalm in an urban setting? Did half the city go up in flames or no?

godflesh
Didn�t Al-Jazeera one time report that the insurgents shot down 16 of our fighter jets over Fallujah

Ah, i see, they crashed, and the jet fuel spilled into a supposed 'chemical weapons factory' that was actually making styrofoam packaging for children's toys, and thats why it seemed like napalm.

Again I say consider the source and the source only says that melted bodies have been found but it does not have definite proof just circumstatntial evidence.

Again, there are many sources that quote members of the US armed forces admitting to using Napalm or "its modern equivalent" in the attack on Baghdad.

The sources quoting its use in Falluja are questionable, but the point remains if it was used in the relatively easy attack on Baghdad, Its use in the far more dangerous and complicated attack on Falluja is by no means out of the bounds of possibility.