8 years old arab girl thrown from balcony.. Karlskrona Sweden

a reply to: dazbog


Because it acceptable in Arab culture to marry young girls and have intercourse with them when they are nine years old, just like Muhammed did?

Because Arabs view females as property that they can beat as they see fit without repercussions?








The point my friend is her being Arab is not germane to the crime. From all the linked sources I've read the issue appears to be one of incompetence on the part of Social Services and the Police. However, many will link the word " Arab " as you have speculated, to demonize a huge population of individuals who love and care for their children / wives no differently then any other human. I'll state without reservation " Arab" will play no part in a criminal trial. Unfortunately your speculation will spring to the forefront of many as it has for you.
I am not saying you believe what you wrote. You did place question marks after your thoughts. So it is on me if I took it the wrong way. It is a sensitive issue for me.

a reply to: dazbog

However, the race in this case shows motive, it fleshes the entire picture out.

There are lot of cases where the race is withheld from the media which is causing a lot of harm to the nation. Harm defined as destroying a nation from within by an agenda.

The culture being exhibited is very much a part of the crime.

In this case it looks like government authorities and workers were in on it, from social workers to customs agents.

Oh and you know those unlawful illegal pseudo laws the wolves passed making it unlawful to speak up against the immigration policies, THEY'RE NOT LEGAL. And its a crime to enforce an unlawful ordinance. That is a constitutional reality and law.

originally posted by: nugget1
Some cultures in this world don't place as much value on children as other countries place on their pets. It's all in what you are raised to believe, and those cultures are appalled at how we live.
The world is a very beautiful place, if you can look past some of the human creatures that inhabit it.

Unfortunately in strict Islamic cultures females, children and adults have zero value, or not much more than their domestic animals.

What is alarming to me is how terrified western cultures seem to be of confronting the way Islamic cultures treat women and girls.

It is as shameful and disturbing as what happened to this child.

Were the social workers in this case afraid?

That poor child.

I know this sounds horrible, but from looking at that horrid picture of her in his lap, she may have avoided more torment had she continued with this monster. Though, it shouldn't come to that. She should have had a real childhood.

Oh it breaks my heart. I have an almost 8 year old daughter and I can not imagine....

I hope the social workers are held responsible for their lack of action, or whoever may have not been doing his/her job to help those children!

a reply to: dollukka

poor girl.

Its a shame this happened where it did, this guy will receive a slap on the wrist at most. Everything from cultural sensitivity to criminals rights will protect him from any real repercussions short of her father paying him a visit.

Its a bigger shame she didnt live and get the beautiful life she deserved.

Scumbag will live a relatively nice life for a couple years in some of the worlds nicest prisons and then go home with some extra money to set himself up again.

There is no justice, not for her. She didnt get the help she needed in life and now she wont get justice she deserves even in death.

How deeply sad, i hope those responsible get what they deserve for such a terrible and shocking crime

a reply to: dollukka

that last picture...

I want to believe it is a moment between relatives, how many of you have picked of a child and cuddled them?

But the little girl is so uncomfortable, though

I am so tempted to whip out the PedoJim SavileBear warning.

That poor baby. I pray she didn't suffer much. And that is one disturbing picture of her with that freak. Sickening.

I live in the vicinity of Karlskrona and when the news hit, both I anđ mom were disturbed. It's a small town and so murders happen every decade or so. I didn't know whether this was by the hand of an ethnic swede or arab. All I care about is that I'm sad that this young girl didn't get to have a fulfilling life and that her hardships didn't end until her death. I can't begin to understand how anyone would do this to a child.

a reply to: InSolace

My hometown is a small town like Karlskrona about same amount of citizen. Two years ago there were a motorbike gang fights in Karskona where one was stabbed to death so its not like one in a decade maybe more like one a year but we somehow don´t remember or even see all the incidents. From the outside these small towns seem to be quite idyllic. In official Karlskrona commun`s webpages in 2009 they adressed their concern about dramatically increased criminality specially in age group under 15 years old.
There are people in small towns too who faces everyday struggles and face domestic violence, abuse and addictions which those who are more fortune do not even realize. There is a reality tv serie i sometimes watch about police work and one of the towns presented in that tv serie is my hometown ( i don´t live there anymore ) small town of 32 000 people and i was astonished to see what all happens there and had no idea how much there were people who had a drug addiction.. i never saw anything like that when i was living there.

a reply to: dollukka

You're right about the murder rate. I had a bit of a thinker and realized that it was a way too naive estimate. I know there are problems there. Some even are of national concern. Growing racism, bikergangs, drug-trafficking via the Poland ferry are among these concerns in this fairly isolated yet continentally connected town that Kalskrona is.

originally posted by: ausername

originally posted by: nugget1
Some cultures in this world don't place as much value on children as other countries place on their pets. It's all in what you are raised to believe, and those cultures are appalled at how we live.
The world is a very beautiful place, if you can look past some of the human creatures that inhabit it.

Unfortunately in strict Islamic cultures females, children and adults have zero value, or not much more than their domestic animals.

What is alarming to me is how terrified western cultures seem to be of confronting the way Islamic cultures treat women and girls.

It is as shameful and disturbing as what happened to this child.

Were the social workers in this case afraid?

" the way Islamic cultures treat women and girls." REALLY ?! Where do you and " ausername " reside ? And for G_d sake don't tell me your insight is from life experience. If we are to believe your source, Islam would of died out long ago through infanticide. I don't want to engage in thread drift however I think it is important to know about a piece of diplomatic correspondence that was released through Wikileaks. I would rather offer a link but at the moment I can't find the document of which I speak. To paraphrase. The population is growing weary of the conflict in Afghanistan. In order to rekindle the passion a hot button should be introduced through media outlets to engage the issue of women's rights in Islamic countries. The MSM , as I am certain you have noticed will at every opportunity introduce cases of abuse to the Western World. It is now not uncommon for our administration to state we are engaged in these Countries to facilitate human rights. In this case it is a win win. Not only is the victim female she was a beautiful young CHILD. Wow ! Home run.
A quick heads up. Females & children worldwide have been tortured, sold , beaten and killed for millennium by every sort of cretin on the planet. So why focus of one particular group ? Because, at least in America the powers that be find it convenient to enlist the aid of half the population ( females ) to support their agenda. Their MO has killed 123.000 noncombatants ( men women and CHILDREN ) in Afghanistan alone. Where are the tears and outrage for them. But the plan is obviously going well. The OP is female and all the posted Crocodile tears appear to be female. IMHO you have been played. Now you may feel free to berate me for appearing to be uncaring. I'm not, but this issue would be a non-issue if one excludes the word Arab.

a reply to: dazbog

You are directly attacking me only cos i am female.. sad
What difference does it make which sex would be posting this as it doesn´t take the issue away. Would you be better off if this would have been posted by male? would it make this somekind more approved or more worthy ?

This isn´t about poltics this is about child abuse. Nothing you say ain´t removing the elephant which is in the room.

originally posted by: Deny Arrogance

originally posted by: dazbog
" Arab " girl. Really ? How is this relevant to her death ?

Because it acceptable in Arab culture to marry young girls and have intercourse with them when they are nine years old, just like Muhammed did?

Because Arabs view females as property that they can beat as they see fit without repercussions?

Oh so thats how its relevant to her death.

By asking 2 question, I don't get it.

a reply to: dazbog

Really ? Caucasian girl thrown off cliff etc. Please. I don't view my statement as a silly fight.

Yes, absolutely. News articles, obituaries, television news, police reports...there are many people described by either their race or nationality, everywhere, all over the globe, every day. dollukka posted an article about this poor little girl's sad existence of abuse and her eventual murder and the first thing you do is question the use of her nationality in the title? Why else would you possibly zero in on that if not to stir the pot? And you're still doing it: "Really ? Caucasian girl thrown off cliff etc. Please." Please, indeed.

originally posted by: tigertatzen
a reply to: dazbog

Really ? Caucasian girl thrown off cliff etc. Please. I don't view my statement as a silly fight.

Yes, absolutely. News articles, obituaries, television news, police reports...there are many people described by either their race or nationality, everywhere, all over the globe, every day. dollukka posted an article about this poor little girl's sad existence of abuse and her eventual murder and the first thing you do is question the use of her nationality in the title? Why else would you possibly zero in on that if not to stir the pot? And you're still doing it: "Really ? Caucasian girl thrown off cliff etc. Please." Please, indeed.

Seriously you cant see their point?

Arab isn't a nationality and yes race or nationality are used usually when authorities put out a description of a suspect they are searching for or if a child goes missing.

What is used to stir the pot is the use of the word ARAB and the incident being in Sweden where there is a growing Muslim population, Its obviously written to give Arabs a bad name and keep the disgust for Islam many have very strong.

A little girl was thrown of a large bridge here in Melbourne just a few years back by her father in the middle of morning rush hour traffic, It was all over the media and I will link just 3 article to see if her nationality was mentioned, its a similar horrific incident with many other horrific incidents happening, in recent times when something horrific like this happens in a western country and is perpetuated by an Arab or Muslim you can guarantee that their religion or nationality will be brought up as one the first points of information.

www.theage.com.au...

www.dailytelegraph.com.au...

www.news.com.au...

So sorry to add more horror from 5 years ago but do you get the point about no need to describe her as an Arab girl.

Its carefully used to divide like it is in this thread.

Many that have a disgust for Arabs in Sweden will see this and use it to fuel their hatred.

a reply to: dazbog

A quick heads up. Females & children worldwide have been tortured, sold , beaten and killed for millennium by every sort of cretin on the planet. So why focus of one particular group ? Because, at least in America the powers that be find it convenient to enlist the aid of half the population ( females ) to support their agenda. Their MO has killed 123.000 noncombatants ( men women and CHILDREN ) in Afghanistan alone. Where are the tears and outrage for them. But the plan is obviously going well. The OP is female and all the posted Crocodile tears appear to be female. IMHO you have been played. Now you may feel free to berate me for appearing to be uncaring. I'm not, but this issue would be a non-issue if one excludes the word Arab.

This is only an issue because you made it one. Now you're going to make this into a pathetic attempt at bashing all women as well? This isn't about 123,000 people in Afghanistan. This is about one small child who was sent from her native country to a strange place to be abused and murdered at the hands of a relative. You opened this can of worms, and now you're trying to justify your statements by bringing up a bunch of drivel that is even less relevant than what you were originally complaining about. You are trying to start something and using this little girl's horrifying experience as a vehicle by which to accomplish that, and don't try to tell us any differently.

I grew up in a Middle Eastern country and I saw this kind of thing firsthand, so you can mock women all you want and make smarmy remarks about "crocodile tears", but you are only making yourself look like a petty bully who is trying to derail this thread and cause discord by disrespecting a little dead girl. And quite frankly, it is disgusting. This would be a non-issue if instigators such as yourself would refrain from trying to hijack the thread with pettiness and ignorance, and simply show common decency and respect for someone who didn't deserve to die.

Don't play Satan's game. He only seeks to draw you into his twisted realm.

Ignore it and move on.

Evil is not exclusive to Islam, and Islamic culture, but few have been so fully infiltrated, protected and defended by evil.

It will stop at nothing to convince you that it is peaceful, yet you have seen the evil it is capable of.

It uses people often without any faith to defend and protect it.

Worst of all, this world hasn't yet seen the true evil it is capable of. Pray it never does....

IMO

a reply to: InhaleExhale

Seriously you cant see their point?

It's not that I can't see their point. It is that a sad, horrifying story about one little girl is being reduced to a petty squabble about her ethnicity. This kind of thing doesn't just happen in Sweden...female children are sold, bartered, even given as gifts in many Arab cultures, and are often sent to other countries as was the case here. They are treated like livestock. And they don't care what ethnicity they are. We almost lost my younger sister that way when she was snatched from an open market right off the sidewalk in Saudi...because she was under the age of nine, she wasn't required to cover her hair, which was platinum blonde and the very reason she was taken.

I honestly don't think that the OP was intended to be divisive in any way. Until the first comment was made regarding the use of her ethnicity, the focus was on the tragedy of this little girl's plight...which is what it should be. The OP didn't use it to divide; the other person however, pounced right on it. And now it has become something else, because of what I personally consider to be a blatant display of disrespect. I wasn't raised that way...you don't disrespect the dead. I find it disturbing and offensive, and I am simply expressing that. As a mother, I feel for this child and I think it is despicable that someone would even think to make an issue out of something like this...and then further use it to go on a rant against females in general, mocking the OP, myself, and anyone else who happens to be a woman. Can you not see how that is inappropriate?

originally posted by: dollukka
a reply to: dazbog

You are directly attacking me only cos i am female.. sad
What difference does it make which sex would be posting this as it doesn´t take the issue away. Would you be better off if this would have been posted by male? would it make this somekind more approved or more worthy ?

This isn´t about poltics this is about child abuse. Nothing you say ain´t removing the elephant which is in the room.

My G_d ! Please , I am not attacking you ! I didn't construct the government memo which encouraged the MSM to focus on events of this nature to specifically enlist the support of females for their political agenda. If you would of excluded one word in the title " Arab " ( why did you include this word ?) we would not be having this discussion. That in and of it self has turned this girls death into and Islamic slam fest. It is quite the rage now-a-days. So don't take it as an attack on your gender or you as an individual. You may have the last word dollukka. Have a good day.