WWIII has already started

The first shots were fired on April 16th, 2014 [when the moon cried blood - the "Blood Moon"]. The United States government has been keeping us in the dark. We are living in a 1984 world. They'll tell us soon. Everything we see is just for show.

I noticed another post said Russia declares War. What do you think? Has WWIII already started, and we are just being lied to?

Pretty sure the first attack was 911 and kicked up quite a bit with the "coalition of the willing", fizzled out a bit but than we got Libya and soon thereafter Syria. Syria could (could have) become the "turn in the tide" from US imperialistic aggression with the assistance of Russia.

It has become clear to the US that any further expansion will be hindered by Russia and her interests. Therefore the focus has turned to her. Once Russia can become isolated than she becomes irrelevant to the end game in the ME and the US can have her way with Syria and Iran.

After that she will eat her own.....Saudi Arabia, etc, etc.

a reply to: Rosinitiate

I could see the 911 as the start of WWIII. But I was referring to: There is War right now in Europe; we just aren't being told about it.

originally posted by: iosolomon
a reply to: Rosinitiate

I could see the 911 as the start of WWIII. But I was referring to: There is War right now in Europe; we just aren't being told about it.

I know what you are referring to, however there is war right now in Africa, Middle East AND Europe courtesy of the US. As with any World War this is just a new theater.

If/when it reaches our (my) shores, I am sure my loving government has a nice cozy cell for me at one of there luxurious gulags along with fellow dissenters. Although I pray it never happens I wouldn't put it past my government to black bag me for my views. It doesn't seem like we are quite there yet but we are trending in that direction.

a reply to: iosolomon


How can wwIII start when ww2 is still going on, according to your other post?

Yes I think there is a war going on in the Ukraine...but they are suppressing some of the details to taylor our perceptions while assets are being emplaced a piece at a time....The Ukrainians of western bent are fighting a holding action that will probably result in the separate nations of Ukraine (east and west)
The west cannot hope to assemble a superior force on the ground in Ukraine....this is evident....but their airpower....which is considerable...COULD TURN THE TIDE IN WESTERN UKRAINES FAVOUR SOMEWHAT....ALLOWING THEM TO HOLD ONTO AS MUCH LAND AS POSSIBLE....
There are other factors as well.....but I think the shooting...though perhaps sporadic...has begun in earnest....the people will take a little time to get their individual hate on but definitely its going to snowball from here downhill....

originally posted by: thesaneone
a reply to: iosolomon


How can wwIII start when ww2 is still going on, according to your other post?

Well, WW2 conspiracy theory is an entirely different ballpark. I'm just saying, I don't trust those Japanese. They are sneaky, and Abe Shinzo...I can smell a dog a mile away!

WW3 conspiracy theory is more based in reality. As stirling (above) believes, "but they are suppressing some details." So my WW3 conspiracy theory is that we're in a 1984 world, and my WW2 conspiracy theory is "what if reincarnation is real?"

Doom porn is all this is. You think ww3 started without us? Please......pictures or it didn't happen. You have all this bull# going on and you think ww3 started over Ukraine? You'd know if ww3 started. Where's the nukes?!??!?!?

originally posted by: iosolomon
I noticed another post said Russia declares War. What do you think? Has WWIII already started, and we are just being lied to?

Yes lied to because Russia has not declared war or even invaded the Ukraine and the only war is the war for your taxes to pay for military spending and at the gas pumps.

Please protect us, here take our money

Was russia to invade anyone then you would know it.

Whoa, didn't know a blood moon can start wars.

The more you know.

In a 1984 world we would have known about it. We would be screaming for the blood of our enemies.
Well, most of us would.

I certainly hope we are not at war. Although I would pay money to see obama go a few rounds in the ring with Putin. could you imagine how much of a beating that obama would take. A community organiser against former kgb....

The Global War on Terrorism: The First 100 Days

"We are supported by the collective will of the world." --President George W. Bush

Executive Summary

"The attack took place on American soil, but it was an attack on the heart and soul of the civilized world. And the world has come together to fight a new and different war, the first, and we hope the only one, of the 21st century. A war against all those who seek to export terror, and a war against those governments that support or shelter them."

-President George W. Bush, 10/11/01

On September 11, terrorists attacked freedom.

2001-2009.state.gov...

a war by any other name:
world wide war numero tres has been game on for some time now

originally posted by: traintrain
I certainly hope we are not at war. Although I would pay money to see obama go a few rounds in the ring with Putin. could you imagine how much of a beating that obama would take. A community organiser against former kgb....

I think that (NSA) interruption!
OUR GREAT LEADER SPEAKS! ALL IS WELL! GO BACK TO YOUR REALITY TV!

Whoa.. I don't know where my head went there...

originally posted by: traintrain
I certainly hope we are not at war. Although I would pay money to see obama go a few rounds in the ring with Putin. could you imagine how much of a beating that obama would take. A community organiser against former kgb....

round one:
the bell rings,
Putin in a lightening like move strolls over and turns off Obama's teleprompter
OBAMA GOES DOWN!
I repeat the communist president is DOWN!
the referee is counting....nine...nine point three....two....
nato is shovelling debt onto the judges....but they aren't budging....
eight billion...nine billion....TEN...TEN TEN Billion dollars!

this spectacle is over....!
well fight fans, what a night this has been....

a reply to: GroidNificent

You'd know if ww3 started. Where's the nukes?!??!?!?

Please...nukes are so..."last season". A zombpocalypse actually sounds more plausible...would definitely keep the denizens of the planet rather busy running for their lives and make it super simple to corral everyone like livestock. And with no pesky nuclear fallout to boot.

World War III has been going for a while. Like most things in this world however, it's being orchestrated behind the scenes and the general public will only see when it affects them and those in power need more cannon fodder. Until then she public will be kept docile with reality TV.

The first attack occurred long ago, the problems in Europe and the economies of the world are a symptom or result of the numerous attacks against people and freedom (if it ever really existed at all) in general.

Some factions on this planet want things to stay the way they have always been or as they were when they were worse in the past, people are being driven down and made helpless by those with power over them, people are being dumbed down by the systems they trust in order to more effectively exploit them.

The Federal Reserve and other banking and money powers and corporations love people who love only money.

Personally, while I was still watching TV in my past life, I observed the beginnings of the end when Wild Bill and Hillary were blabbering about exactly what we have going on right now.

Outright military conflict and societal decay are the result of policies and laws passed in the past.

The next world war will be against the same old crap all wars have always been against, those fighting and dying in it never realizing the truth of the reason behind it while believing there is some all powerful being approving of their violent action or some silly loyalty to municipalities or countries.

War is always about money and resources, and we have destroyed our planet and squandered it's resources.

The Old World Order is in full force here and always has been, people are given options which distract them from paying attention to the truth of the past like TV and internet and drugs and alcohol.

The slaves are always given ways to medicate themselves to keep them more manageable, when substances don't work any more, their ability to obtain them is cut off and they are funneled into some silly war for some silly reason.

All the people can do is refuse to participate.

A "Blood Moon" is only believed to be an omen because when people developed such beliefs they had no understanding of what it really was, like being afraid of a black cat crossing one's path or fearing Friday the 13th because it is supposedly bad luck.

Belief is a very dangerous thing and always used to exploit.

a reply to: iosolomon
Just like any war, we won't truly know what history will classify as the root trigger or defining incident is until afterwards, there is generally a buildup , point of contention, trigger then the climax and ultimately the end, but the trigger that sets the wheels in motion to full scale WWIII won't be realized until after it is all over at least in my opinion.