CEO of Armatix Creates Safe Gun -- Get's Stalked and Harassed by Gun Enthusiasts

So, here's the problem with gun owners sometimes.

Idiots in your community, make it hard for you to be taken seriously, when they rail against proper gun safety. I can't see any particular reason this product would be a bad thing. Especially considering that criminals don't buy legal guns and if more of these were available than perhaps there would be less actual gun crime?

I'm no expert, but here it is:

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Belinda Padilla, president and CEO of the U.S. division of firearm manufacturer Armatix, says she was stalked and threatened by “gun enthusiasts” after she tried to bring a safer handgun to market.

Armatix, a German company, has developed so-called “smart guns” that can only be fired by the owner. The company uses a watch that ties the owner to the weapon, called the iP1. Armatix is already selling the personalized weapons in Europe and Asia.

In an interview published by The New York Times on Monday, Padilla explained what happened when a forum of online “gun enthusiasts” published her cellphone number.

She said it began with a “few fuming-mad voice mail messages and heavy breathers” that got her to stop answering her phone.

And then photos of her home were posted online.

“In a crude, cartoonish scrawl, this person drew an arrow to the blurred image of a woman passing through the photo frame. ‘Belinda?’ the person wrote. ‘Is that you?’” according to the Times.

What say you ATS gun owners?

~Tenth

There are a few problems with the gun that I can think of, the biggest of which would be what if the batteries went out or that you have to always have the watch on in order to shoot....just another step to fumble when in an adrenalin filled situation that is more than likely to get the owner of one of these killed.

I can't say I agree with any of the people "stalking and harassing" her though...there is no need for it. Just don't buy the gun if you don't like it. If there aren't enough sales then it will not be produced anymore....pretty simple concept methinks.

>watch batteries go out.

good maybe they'll learn how to be responsible; or perhaps the watch is one of those that charges itself through wrist movement.

a reply to: tothetenthpower

Remember when that newspaper in that town that had a school shooting posted the names and addresses of all of the gun owners in that area?

Not sure how this is any different.......

But to each his/her own I guess.

a reply to: Vasa Croe

I can see the battery issues as being a problem.

But why would gun owners not throw themselves in front of gun safety? Why hasn't the NRA pushed for further safe type of guns.

Not limiting the ownership, but looking at creating alternatives that further protect those who are at risk of coming under gun violence.

Being Canadian, I won't ever understand the enthusiasm behind gun ownership. I understand the historical implications of 200+ years ago, but in contemporary society, I just don't see it.

~Tenth

originally posted by: seeker1963
a reply to: tothetenthpower

Remember when that newspaper in that town that had a school shooting posted the names and addresses of all of the gun owners in that area?

Not sure how this is any different.......

But to each his/her own I guess.

Hey it's the 2 wrongs make a right guy... :/

Of course stalking her is wrong, presumably they are trying to menace her into quitting because they don't like her job.

originally posted by: Vasa Croe
There are a few problems with the gun that I can think of, the biggest of which would be what if the batteries went out or that you have to always have the watch on in order to shoot....just another step to fumble when in an adrenalin filled situation that is more than likely to get the owner of one of these killed.

I can't say I agree with any of the people "stalking and harassing" her though...there is no need for it. Just don't buy the gun if you don't like it. If there aren't enough sales then it will not be produced anymore....pretty simple concept methinks.

If your wife, co-worker ect. needs to retrieve and fire the weapon at your request what then?

What if the bracelet breaks while tussling with an assailant?

What if it gets wet?

Ect.

I have no problem with the publishing of her info but stalking someone over it is ridiculous. After all no one has a problem giving out the personal information of CCW license holders so....

People with simply refuse to buy this crap.

I pay $400+ for a mobile phone that works when it decides to.

"Hey sir hold off attacking me. I need to reboot my gun"...hell naw...I'm good.

a reply to: tothetenthpower

because; the NRA are basically used as a marketing department by the gun-manufacturers.

they use fearmongering about burglars; government; etc. to get people to buy their products...

Why else would they have those rediculous spokespeople who seem to lack even the slightest bit of empathy.

originally posted by: NonsensicalUserName
a reply to: tothetenthpower

because; the NRA are basically used as a marketing department by the gun-manufacturers.

they use fearmongering about burglars; government; etc. to get people to buy their products...

Why else would they have those rediculous spokespeople who seem to lack even the slightest bit of empathy.

Being in the business I can tell you there is NO shortage of people buying any products. In fact we can't meet their demand.

And its very good for business. To hell with the NRA; I'm doing just fine.

a reply to: tothetenthpower

Being Canadian, I won't ever understand the enthusiasm behind gun ownership. I understand the historical implications of 200+ years ago, but in contemporary society, I just don't see it.

~Tenth

There are two separate issues here.

1) Should the CEO be stalked for offering a new product? Clearly NO.
2) Would this gun be a good idea or something I would buy? The answer is NO.

I don't want any kind of feature on my guns that might prevent me from firing in self-defense for any reason. I also don't want a gun that couldn't be used by my wife or daughter in the event they needed to defend themselves.

I have training with my firearms and so does my family. I am in absolutely no danger from my firearms. I don't need this feature nor would I want it, however, I suppose if you were untrained with guns or paranoid maybe you would.

# # #

Tenth, I believe you when you say that as a Canadian you can't understand. You may never understand. However, when you have grown up around firearms there is no fear or uncertainty and frankly, I (we) enjoy our guns and they give us pleasure for sport and are practical for hunting and self-defense.

One final thought...the reason gun enthusiasts react negatively to this type of 'safety' feature is that we KNOW that it is only a matter of time before some dip-stick politician introduces a bill to REQUIRE this feature and whatever other 'safety' features get invented. I don't want to be FORCED to be 'safe' because I don't believe it makes me safer and it is an inconvenience.

I hope this helps you understand.

a reply to: Metallicus

Yeah I mean I grew up around guns, I hunted during my child hood, went to the range, was in Air and Sea Cadets as a teenager and shot many a gun with them.

It's enjoyable, that I agree in some ways. But we just don't have 'gun culture' here. We have hunting culture, that just so happens to require guns.

But yes, you explanation makes sense, I would not want to be prevented from using my firearm in a situation requiring it.

Personally I prefer the bow, which is why I have a crossbow pre-loaded in our house for any such emergency requiring force. Old school I know, but it does the trick.

Thank you for enlightening me.

~Tenth

Its retarded.

My XD9, has a trigger safety, and grip safety.

To a non gun owner, it could be difficult to figure out in the first place, as its not a traditional safety switch.

Springfield get any complaints? No.

This is fine, as long as its not enforced onto people via legislation.

She said it began with a “few fuming-mad voice mail messages and heavy breathers” that got her to stop answering her phone.

So where are these recordings? She could certainly get even more publicity if she were to release them.

Is it possible what she is reporting is true? Yes

Is it possible she is fabricating or exaggerating in order to receive free publicity for her company? Yes

A coded magnet in a ring would work better. Because a bracelet type device is the perfect place to put a USB port and the bad guys would just shoot the people with bracelets first.


Then there is always this


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originally posted by: tothetenthpower
But why would gun owners not throw themselves in front of gun safety? Why hasn't the NRA pushed for further safe type of guns.

Vesa is right, just don't buy it.

The political resistance to the technology is because some lawmakers have proposed requiring "safe" guns.

The reality is that a tool not in a state of readiness is not a useful tool, especially when its specific utility is by default unexpected.

Sounds like an ad campaign or publicity stunt to claim stalkers and such.

a reply to: tothetenthpower

Maybe the "gun enthusiasts" were plants. Maybe they're not what they want her and us to believe.

Firearms are 100% mechanical in function. It has always been that way and always should be. There is absolutely no benefit to the user to have it otherwise.

Gun owners are forward-thinking. On top of knowing that electronics and firearms is probably not a good marriage from a reliability standpoint, it is yet another camel's nose in the tent of gun control. As usual, "safety" is the big sell, but we all know the potential of this technology: Down the road, the watches will have to be registered and must access a wireless connection, and have biometric IDs built in, and anyone on a list of 'undesirables' will not be 'approved' to use a 'smart gun'. Also, they would likely have some sort of RFID in them that could be detected by law enforcement, et al. so that they'd know who was carrying. Basically, ever-encroaching control.

Not to mention the battery issue mentioned already.

No thanks.

a reply to: tothetenthpower

There's idiots in every community, trick is to not take them seriously. It they commit an illegal act, call the police.

a reply to: tothetenthpower

Just a couple of things. Until it has been proven that it is indeed 2nd Amendment backers, it is just a theory. It very well could be Anti-Gun rights people doing it.

The electric ID gun is a bad idea. People can hack DOD Networks, people can hack a gun. Just like Gun laws, it is a false sense of security.

People can buy it, I will keep the ones I have.

a reply to: tothetenthpower

"Gun safety" is the new code word for gun control. Remember when gun locks started coming out? Nobody really said anything about them that I remember. Now they even build them into some weapons and folks have a choice to use them or not for the most part.

As long as the device has an on/off mode I don't have a problem with them. Have kids in the house, leave it on. Live alone, turn it off. I can see big brother mandating their use though. Next they will demand a kill-switch to be able to deactivate them whenever they wish.

Still, that said those who threatened her were totally off the wall.