Animal abuse organization

^This video shows how some human kill those ugly dogs in their standard.

Except they love to kill "ugly" dogs ,those good looking dogs (in their standard) been keeping to inbreeding,lead to a large number of genetic diseases.
(I mentioned this on another thread about TV,but seem no one care about it)

People always say "the dog is my friend/dogs are man's best friend".Well ,this is how human dealing with their "best friend".
I read this thread ,quote the OP on there :

“More striking was the goat's reaction to the dog: It had a 210 per cent increase in oxytocin. At that level of increase, within the framework of oxytocin as the ‘love hormone’, we essentially found that the goat might have been in love with the dog.”

Of course ,because the characteristic of dogs are been controlled by human ,those "not nice(can't generate oxytocin) "dogs can't reproduction in breeding.
Many of human very fear "paid" the feelings without return,like bankers fear bank runs.(I think these are all business )
Therefore,they use a target must "return" their caring ,this target can't be too intelligent,have intelligent=could betray.Which is dog,but mongrel dogs are too unstable in characteristic(not sure they can "love "back or not) and appearance,thus human prefer pedigree dogs.

I don't like dogs ,I just feel so tired for people say dogs are their friends.
Oh my god ,I don't force my friends to breeding.

I love dogs. I have two collie's [sheep dogs] and guess what? They ARE my best friend

I didn't watch the video, for obvious reasons.

Cheers anyway

originally posted by: Spiro
I love dogs. I have two collie's [sheep dogs] and guess what? They ARE my best friend

I didn't watch the video, for obvious reasons.

Cheers anyway

I didnt watch it for the same reason, and also because its from the British Bullsh!t Corporation.

OP.
You wrote "but mongrel dogs are too unstable in characteristic". Thats untrue! Also mongrel dogs are MUCH more resistant to disease. Are you a breeder OP?

a reply to: VoidHawk

MSM often BS doesn't mean all of their report are BS.I thought this is basic common sense .
I think you are biased,you can't judge it before you watch.

You wrote "but mongrel dogs are too unstable in characteristic". Thats untrue!

Well ,compare with inbreeding dogs.The video talk about inbreeding dogs mostly.

Also mongrel dogs are MUCH more resistant to disease.

True.

Are you a breeder OP?

I think it's not your business ...

a reply to: candlestick

Did not and will not watch the video .

Other than my Chow Chow , the best dogs I have ever had the pleasure of having in my company ( I do not like saying "I own my dog") were mongrels/mutts/mixed breeds . They were the most stable , even tempered and easily trainable . And because of the Mutts attributes most of the dog "owners" I know prefer mongrels/mutts/mixed breeds over pedigrees . My Chow was given to me by my wife (then girlfriend) and she was THE greatest dog I could hopefully ever wished to have in my company . Loyal to the end , as smart as they come and protective of not only myself but also my wife . But I will argue your statement that "human prefer pedigree dogs" , because it is simply , and flat out a false statement .

As for forcing dogs to breed , my dogs are fixed at the appropriate time and I know very few people who "force" their dogs to breed . As a matter of fact , I know no one that forces their dogs to breed and I know many dog "owners" There are enough unwanted dogs in shelters , pounds and walking the streets . I do not need to add to it . And most dog lovers I know are responsible and have their dogs fixed also . So do not paint all dog "owners" with one large brush .

Why are you tired of people claiming their dogs are their friends ? How does that effect you ? I would rather be with my two dogs than most any human . I trust my dogs more than I trust most any human .

originally posted by: candlestick
a reply to: VoidHawk

MSM often BS doesn't mean all of their report are BS.I thought this is basic common sense .

You see, thats the mistake most people make, they think they will know which parts are BS! Maybe you could tell us the secret that enables you to seperate the BS from the truth?

originally posted by: candlestick
I think you are biased,you can't judge it before you watch.

I live and grew up in the uk under the influence of the BBC, and I can agree that I AM biased against them, I am biased because their sole purpose for existing is to manipulate the minds of the masses.

originally posted by: Stonecutter45
I do not like saying "I own my dog"

Quite right I refer to my old mate as...my old mate though sometimes I have been guilty of saying "dog owner" because its easier than explaining that "my mate" is a dog.
I lived with a Border Collie who had just a touch of Lab in him, and he was the healthiest dog I've ever known, and freindliest!

originally posted by: Stonecutter45I would rather be with my two dogs than most any human . I trust my dogs more than I trust most any human.

Yep! Best darn friends you can get! I got my mate just a few days after the X ran off, best trade I ever made.

originally posted by: Stonecutter45
a reply to: candlestick

Why are you tired of people claiming their dogs are their friends ? How does that effect you ? I would rather be with my two dogs than most any human . I trust my dogs more than I trust most any human .

I agree with the rest of your opinion. But this question you outline is one that warrants an answer. Very good question indeed. The OP seems to have a hatred with dogs so It will be interesting to hear a reply....if any

originally posted by: VoidHawk
I live and grew up in the uk under the influence of the BBC, and I can agree that I AM biased against them, I am biased because their sole purpose for existing is to manipulate the minds of the masses.

+1

To OP: Everyone will have a different opinion on dogs. Most dog owners have them for a specific reason, companionship, love, respect, comfort and even a shoulder to cry on. They are the best companions that a man/woman could wish for. My dogs are much much better than some humans I know

Not sure I should post here... I obviously didn't watch the video.

There are good breeders and bad breeders.
There are healthy mutts and unhealthy mutts.

But my dogs are my family and I LOVE them and they love me back. I far prefer them over other humans.

originally posted by: candlestick


I don't like dogs ,I just feel so tired for people say dogs are their friends.
Oh my god ,I don't force my friends to breeding.

I didn't watch the video & wont for the same reason others have posted.

It's ok that you don't like dogs ~ They probably don't like you either but don't condemn those that do & consider them friends and family. My dogs are my friends, my kids and part of my family.

a reply to: candlestick

I just feel so tired for people say dogs are their friends. - See more at: www.abovetopsecret.com...

Well I hope have you great endurance because you will be getting more and more tired as I will be saying Sonja is my best friend now that Tyson died.



Tyson on the left and Sonja on the right, do you know where I used to sit?

I used to pull up their bed close to the couch and rest my head on the couch while laying on one of their beds.

We share many things like friends do.

Oh my god ,I don't force my friends to breeding.

Who does?

People that breed dogs usually do it as a business to make money, a person who has a dog as a companion and gets another and they breed will usually say they have new members of the family arriving.

Sorry that you cant or haven't been able to experience the friendship an animal can give you.

I don't understand people who don't like dogs, or animals in general.

I could be wrong, but my instinct tells me not to
trust them.

If you don't want to watch the video ,can you just don't reply the thread ?

Don't want to listen to others ,only telling their own stories is annoying .

Stopped read the replies of those people who said "don't want to watch the video ".

Close minded +no respect.

originally posted by: OpenEars123
I don't understand people who don't like dogs, or animals in general.

I could be wrong, but my instinct tells me not to
trust them.

Yeah ,I am a "bastard",you are a saint.

LOL

a reply to: candlestick

Ok so ~

* You don't like dogs.
* You are tired of people who say dogs are their friends.
* You are annoyed at people telling their own stories.
* You call others closed minded with no respect..
* You have admitted to something that some just may agree with in your last post.

Peace to you.

My dogs are my friends, my kids and part of my family. I love them and they love me

Have a couple with some very fine pedigree's BTW

originally posted by: candlestick
If you don't want to watch the video ,can you just don't reply the thread ?

Don't want to listen to others ,only telling their own stories is annoying .

Stopped read the replies of those people who said "don't want to watch the video ".

Close minded +no respect.

originally posted by: OpenEars123
I don't understand people who don't like dogs, or animals in general.

I could be wrong, but my instinct tells me not to
trust them.

Yeah ,I am a "bastard",you are a saint.

LOL

I didn't call you a bastard, and I didn't call myself a saint. I just said my instincts tell me not trust people like you.

Some people (like myself), will not watch anything to do with animal cruelty, because it is too upsetting, like child cruelty is.
That doesn't mean we are ignorant and have no respect.

Are you quite young by any chance?

a reply to: OpenEars123

Although I don't like dogs ,but I still not really like people abuse animal openly and claim it's love.

Purebred dogs breeding this behavior itself is animal abuse already ,which lead to genetic diseases.

If someone own a dog but seem not like animal abuser ,at least the dog must be a adopted street dog.
Many of street dogs needs your help ,if you believe they have feelings.
But the looking of them can't attract most of dog "lovers" .

The reason I didn't watch the video is that it's heartbreaking. I watched a few minutes and couldn't take it. I'm not being closed-minded. It's just that I know quite a lot about dogs and dog breeding. The dogs in that video most likely come from puppy mills and/or back-yard breeders. It's not the fact that they are purebred that causes the unhealthiness, it's HOW they are bred.

There are several kinds of breeders. (Testing the dogs for medical issues BEFORE they are bred is the best way to guard against inherited health issues.)

1. Puppy Mills: Unhealthy (but purebred) dogs are bred in crowded and deplorable conditions, and bred again as soon after the birth as possible, only to take the puppies (that carry unhealthy genes) to a "pet store" and sell them for profit.

2. Back-Yard Breeders: Someone has a bulldog (that they got at a pet store) and there's a bulldog down the street (that came from a neighbor), so they get together and breed the dogs, without testing, so they can hopefully make a few bucks and/or give their dogs the "experience of breeding". You'll find these puppies advertised in the paper or being sold out of a box at Wal-Mart.

3. Reputable Breeders: These breeders do all medical testing appropriate to the breed to minimize the chances of unhealthy puppies. The breeding pair is carefully chosen and great care is taken in the process. In addition to medical testing, the adult dogs are usually "proven" by gaining titles in dog shows or in the working fields (in the case of herders, for example). The puppies are raised inside the home, or in immaculate kennels and fed high-quality food. The new "parents" are screened and there is usually a contract with the sale, stating that the breeder will take the dog back, should there be any medical issues and prohibiting the new owner from breeding the dogs (in the case of a companion pet).

My dogs have come from a reputable breeder in Oregon. I can look online and see the condition of the hips of my dogs' parents and their whole lineage from Germany. I can also see the titles their parents have won.

Here are my dogs:



Here is their father:

Wotan v. TeMar

And on the page of his Progeny, you'll find both my dogs (Velma and Rajaia) and links to their mothers.

My point is that you cannot just group all "purebred dogs" into a group and make judgments about them. Yes, there are too many dogs and people irresponsibly breed them willy-nilly, but that doesn't mean that it has to be that way. Dogs can and are bred healthily and carefully, and anyone who is looking for a puppy should research the breed for a year ahead of time (as I did) and find out the medical issues in the breed and then find a good, reputable breeder who tests the adults, and SEE the test results.

Hope that clears up my position.

a reply to: Benevolent Heretic

Your dogs are absolutely beautiful.

Wonderful pedigree's.

Excellent post BTW.

a reply to: Benevolent Heretic

You should watch the video ,it shows many champion dogs are sick dogs.