I I Believe In Enforced Meditation

There, I said it! Since yesterday and today I've been thinking about what my political philosophy truly is. I've been trying to distill it into its most basic unit. I've been toying with the idea of Libertarianism (there have been some recent threads). I think that there's too much of a possibility of abuse. I've been toying with the idea of Socialism. Socialism, is good in theory, but same thing, I think that there's too much of a possibility of abuse. So I've come to the realization that if I could form a perfect society, the only constraint I would put on it is enforced meditation. Every other thing besides that is a detail that I believe would be worked out.

First, I believe that it really is hard to enforce something like that. I think that there is a very strong possibility of someone lying and saying that they've meditated when they have not. I would just have to say that I feel that a fully actualized society that has this built into it, would be able to spot this in someone, and would be able to do whatever seems fit short of murder, injury and torture to that person. So I guess a better way to term it would be to passionately encourage everyone to meditate. This is the only kink that would have to be worked out, as far as how to implement this measure.

Second, the question is, if I believe in meditation being enforced upon people, what is my definition of meditation? For me, meditation is looking inward, and/or focusing on something, and/or deeply contemplating something, and/or training your mind to be aware of something. Now this can be anything from traditional meditation, to thinking deeply about the works of Shakespeare or the Bible (or any written text), it may also be deep contemplation of a certain philosophy and even intense prayer. I personally don't believe that the Bible is the word of truth, but anyone who would want to meditate on it is free to believe that if they want.

As mentioned, I believe that the benefits would be a fully actualized and healthy society. The society would be most likely healthy physically, mentally, and/or spiritually (depending on if you believe in the spirit).

So, there it is! These past few weeks I've become a militant believer in meditation; the only thing that I would wish upon a society.

I may not be able to read or reply to your comments soon as I'm going to bed pretty soon and I have a long day tomorrow. So don't get mad at my seeming listlessness. Can't wait to see your comments! Good night!

An un-analysed life is one not worth living.

Looking inward and reflecting, thinking, contemplation is what is lacking in this day and age.

I leaned to meditate at an early age due to an attempt to help with a health issue (it didn't)

To this day, I will stop and focus, lower my heart rate, bp, etc.

So yes, the benefits of meditation, or simple contemplation in general, could help.

As for enforced anything, well... I take that part as satire.

But I believe in a persons right to be as unhealthy or healthy as they please.

You lost me at enforced (forget the meditation) you want to force people to do something they may not want to do??????
It doesn't seem to work for me.

You will sit their and meditate and you will get something out of it. Nah! doesn't sound right.

Maybe in your subconscious mind, you want to be a politician.

You can't force people to meditate. Forced meditation is not meditation. It needs to be ones personal choice, something to be enjoyed rather than enforced. People are far more likely to resist anything that is enforced upon them.

...Enforced Meditation

... is an oxymoron of the highest degree - think about it??

Now, given that your ideological utopia would come to pass... the net result would probably end up being a rebellious society of new-age free wheeling, hippy anarchists.

Sounds cool to me.

I almost concur, but the way to encourage or enforce is through school. PE should be divided half between this and half between meditation practice, not theory, short theory and long on practice. I'd also compress the reading writing and useless courses that no one needs. You need to be able to read and write well, then you can learn anything you want to. Thats about it, the rest should be electives. Anyway, I would also have remote viewing and psi workshops for all students all their lives.

a reply to: brazenalderpadrescorpio

I think you need to stop thinking about controlling other people and start focusing on your breath as you meditate. Perhaps some day you will see why these thoughts arise.

People will find the path to enlightenment in their own good time, its all part of the journey.
If you force someone to do what they are not yet ready to do it may have the opposite effect, and sully their chances.
I for one never got on with meditation, my mind has a whole universe going on in there... but if I was forced to do it I would rebel, and so would many more.
Surely its enlightenment about freedom of choice, not force.

a reply to: brazenalderpadrescorpio

Second, the question is, if I believe in meditation being enforced upon people, what is my definition of meditation? For me, meditation is looking inward, and/or focusing on something, and/or deeply contemplating something, and/or training your mind to be aware of something. Now this can be anything from traditional meditation, to thinking deeply about the works of Shakespeare or the Bible (or any written text), it may also be deep contemplation of a certain philosophy and even intense prayer.

Perhaps you should consider meditating on that whole "enforcement" thing again.

originally posted by: Unity_99
I almost concur, but the way to encourage or enforce is through school. PE should be divided half between this and half between meditation practice, not theory, short theory and long on practice. I'd also compress the reading writing and useless courses that no one needs. You need to be able to read and write well, then you can learn anything you want to. Thats about it, the rest should be electives. Anyway, I would also have remote viewing and psi workshops for all students all their lives.

That is an interesting idea. If kids where taught intention manifestation healing (Reiki) would they be different in their interaction with each other. Also some people like me who are very unphysical in their being do not like PE, and the level of physical exhausting movement is not enjoyable for us as it probably is of others. Yoga would probably be better for people that are unphysical than running around.

Meditation can not be forced. That's like waging war for peace. The David Lynch foundation is doing some good things to make progress in teaching people how to meditate.
www.davidlynchfoundation.org...

I can't meditate. I don't even know what it is.

I relax listening to ASMR videos...is that the same thing?

Well then why not just call it relaxation?

I don't get godly thoughts or feel at one with the universe, or any of that guff.

What's that about?

originally posted by: zeevar
People will find the path to enlightenment in their own good time, its all part of the journey.
If you force someone to do what they are not yet ready to do it may have the opposite effect, and sully their chances.
I for one never got on with meditation, my mind has a whole universe going on in there... but if I was forced to do it I would rebel, and so would many more.
Surely its enlightenment about freedom of choice, not force.

Depends on you definition of Meditation.
1 Meditation as a self reflection tool that you can do that anywhere and all the time.
2 Meditation as a relaxing tool where you find inner calmness and maybe even connect to source and push chi thru your being (intent->manifestation tool).

I cannot follow the normal meditation thing that people do and start to play with chi and root burn instead since my consciousness becomes bored. I am into binaural beats instead that are very soothing for me since I am sensitive to sound input.

a reply to: woodwardjnr

Well, we certainly force children to attend school and I take it you're ok with that?

So why not add meditation to the curriculum, it has all kinds of proven health benefits.
I bet it would be a tremendous success.

Meditation frees the mind, our schools do their best to put locks on the mind.

I've been toying with this idea myself.

I also have been thinking about how a Taoist theocracy would manifest itself, or perhaps not a theocracy, that is quite extreme. But how would a political doctrine inspired by Taoism look? Maybe the whole idea is paradoxical, but I do like the idea.

The only qualm I have is your different interpretations in what you mean as to the correct usage of the terms you used.
1. En-forced
2. Forced
3. Re-In-forced

In choosing to use "enforced", that implies you suggest using force or punishment if non-compliance.

So, am I incorrect? Or did you really mean to "enforce" by enforcing consequences on those who wont or don't comply?

That society would be more of a dictatorship than a democracy.

a reply to: brazenalderpadrescorpio

I assume by meditation you are referring to the buddhist variety, with its religious connotations, conjuring imagery of large groups of people sitting in lotus and in silence. The David Lynch foundation is currently attempting to get Transcendental Meditation in schools, so you may not be too far off; and you'll see advocates such as Lynch and Russell Brand hoping to get their particular religious practices practiced by everyone. This is, of course, atrocious, hypocritical and tyrannical.

a reply to: keenasbro

I don't want to be a politician. I'm just trying to elaborate my political philosophy to myself. I don't believe in any political solution to our problem but this. Like I said, it's a major kink that would have to be ironed out.

a reply to: Perhaps

I don't think that meditation necessarily equates to a new-age hippy style of thinking. There's all kinds of different types of meditation as I articulated in my OP.

a reply to: Unity_99

Actually it makes more sense to institute it as a school curriculum. Maybe that would slowly make people realize that it is something important. Thanks for seeing straight through to the solution unlike most of the other people commenting.

a reply to: DJW001

I don't even think that focusing on your breath is an effective type of meditation. At least not for as long as I meditate (an hour).